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Hello,

I am sending in my I-751 this Friday and wanted to know some general filing tips.

1. Should I punch and file it in a binder or Just put the stack of documents in a type of folder. I don't know what to use to secure this huge stack of documents with the money order so that nothing is lost in the process.

2. I have every page of the bank statements of the last 2.5 years... it makes the stack of documents sending quite thick. Is this recommended?

3. What order? Cover Letter --> Money order --> Application ---> documents?

4. Does it matter if it is UPS/ USPS overnight shipping or does it have to be certified mail?

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* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

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Thank you. I will go through these links and see if I still have any questions left.

Should I do a G-1145 along with the I-751?

Thank you.

Should I do a G-1145 along with the I-751?

Nevermind, it doesn't work for the Vermont Service Center.

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Hi,

The link you sent helped a little but I still have some questions outstanding mainly the fact that I have every page of the bank statements of the last 2.5 years... it makes the stack of documents sending quite thick. Is this recommended?

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If one ACCO fastener isn't enough, use another. Some people send packages that are thin, others send several inches thick. I'm sure USCIS has seen it all.

So is it acceptable/recommended to use multiple acco classification folders (acco fastener on top) to categorize our supporting documents? I checked online and I believe the most dividers i have seen in an acco classification folders is 2 which allows for 4 categories per se (ex: utilities, bank documents, lease agreements, tax returns). https://www.amazon.com/ACCO-Classification-Fasteners-Pressboard-A7015026/dp/B00006IEVT/ref=pd_sim_229_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=41YoQdR5vJL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=7TH7GF2GAR1VQ83WJ1Q2

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6/20/2016 (Day 0) - ROC Package (i-761) sent via USPS Priority Mail

6/21/2016 (Day 1) - ROC Package delivered at CSC Laguna Niguel & signed for by J Siplivy

6/28/2016 (Day 8) - Check cashed and NOA dated 6/21/2016 received in the mail

7/18/2016 (Day 28) - Biometrics appointment done at Santa Ana ASC

2/28/2017 (Day 254) - Spouse received call from immigration officer verifying if we still lived together at our current address. He ended the conversation by saying we our approved and no need for interview

3/3/2017 (Day 257) - Received approval letter in the mail! 

3/13/2017 (Day 267) - Online status updated - new card being produced

3/16/2017 (Day 270) - Online status updated - new card was mailed to me

3/20/2017 (Day 274) - 10 year green card on hand!! 

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6/12/2017 - Eligible for Citizenship

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N-400

6/13/2017 - N-400 package sent via USPS Priority Mail Express

6/16/2017 - N-400 fee cashed

6/19/2017 - NOA date - Priority date 6/15/17

6/30/2017 - Received biometrics appointment letter in the mail for 7/12/17

7/5/2017 - Walked in Tustin ASC for biometrics 

8/10/2017 - Case is in line for interview

1/22/2018 - N-400 interview date scheduled 

1/26/2018 - Received N-400 interview letter in the mail! Interview scheduled on Feb. 28 

2/28/2018 - Naturalization interview - recommended for approval! :)

3/20/2018 - Oath taking ceremony :dance:

 

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I've sent all paperwork as one stack for all my filings - forms on top, supporting evidence behind - all punched together and held with an acco fastener at the top. You don't need to section or classify your supporting evidence with additional labels or dividers - just put them in a sensible order and include a sheet noting the contents and order of the stack at the beginning of those pieces of paper.

* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

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I've sent all paperwork as one stack for all my filings - forms on top, supporting evidence behind - all punched together and held with an acco fastener at the top. You don't need to section or classify your supporting evidence with additional labels or dividers - just put them in a sensible order and include a sheet noting the contents and order of the stack at the beginning of those pieces of paper.

Hi thanks for your input. so you punched holes in the form i-751 as well? also, did you use some type of box envelope to mail it out? or like a cushion/padded mailer? sorry, it's our first time filing on our own so not quite sure on how to organize all docs and what envelope/package to use to mail it out. thanks

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6/12/2016 - Eligible for Removal of Conditions

----

ROC

Spoiler

 

6/20/2016 (Day 0) - ROC Package (i-761) sent via USPS Priority Mail

6/21/2016 (Day 1) - ROC Package delivered at CSC Laguna Niguel & signed for by J Siplivy

6/28/2016 (Day 8) - Check cashed and NOA dated 6/21/2016 received in the mail

7/18/2016 (Day 28) - Biometrics appointment done at Santa Ana ASC

2/28/2017 (Day 254) - Spouse received call from immigration officer verifying if we still lived together at our current address. He ended the conversation by saying we our approved and no need for interview

3/3/2017 (Day 257) - Received approval letter in the mail! 

3/13/2017 (Day 267) - Online status updated - new card being produced

3/16/2017 (Day 270) - Online status updated - new card was mailed to me

3/20/2017 (Day 274) - 10 year green card on hand!! 

----

 

6/12/2017 - Eligible for Citizenship

----

N-400

6/13/2017 - N-400 package sent via USPS Priority Mail Express

6/16/2017 - N-400 fee cashed

6/19/2017 - NOA date - Priority date 6/15/17

6/30/2017 - Received biometrics appointment letter in the mail for 7/12/17

7/5/2017 - Walked in Tustin ASC for biometrics 

8/10/2017 - Case is in line for interview

1/22/2018 - N-400 interview date scheduled 

1/26/2018 - Received N-400 interview letter in the mail! Interview scheduled on Feb. 28 

2/28/2018 - Naturalization interview - recommended for approval! :)

3/20/2018 - Oath taking ceremony :dance:

 

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Hi thanks for your input. so you punched holes in the form i-751 as well? also, did you use some type of box envelope to mail it out? or like a cushion/padded mailer? sorry, it's our first time filing on our own so not quite sure on how to organize all docs and what envelope/package to use to mail it out. thanks

I am wondering the same as above. We are in the same situation.

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Hi thanks for your input. so you punched holes in the form i-751 as well? also, did you use some type of box envelope to mail it out? or like a cushion/padded mailer? sorry, it's our first time filing on our own so not quite sure on how to organize all docs and what envelope/package to use to mail it out. thanks

Yes, holes through the whole stack, secured as one thing with the acco clips - that way no little piece of paper is going to get lost/separated. As far as I understand, that's how they keep the documents together in their own files so punching top holes and securing them this way makes it easier for them to either just keep your acco clip and add more stuff, or transfer into their own one.

No box. Just put it in a big, thick, manilla envelope.

Oh, and for checks - yeah - I didn't hole punch them - I just paper-clipped (not stapled, they usually ask not to staple stuff) to the very front of the stack since they're gonna be doing the fee processing first. :)

* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

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Yes, holes through the whole stack, secured as one thing with the acco clips - that way no little piece of paper is going to get lost/separated. As far as I understand, that's how they keep the documents together in their own files so punching top holes and securing them this way makes it easier for them to either just keep your acco clip and add more stuff, or transfer into their own one.

No box. Just put it in a big, thick, manilla envelope.

Oh, and for checks - yeah - I didn't hole punch them - I just paper-clipped (not stapled, they usually ask not to staple stuff) to the very front of the stack since they're gonna be doing the fee processing first. :)

Thank you all for your advice. It has been great help.

On USCIS website, it says "Mark both the envelope and the cover letter as to the nature of the submission."

So should the USPS Priority Envelope say:?

ORIGINAL SUBMISSION - I-751 REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

USCIS Vermont Service Center

P.O. Box 200

St. Albans, VT 05479-0001

It also says "Send copies of any prior approval notices with any new requests for extensions of stay, change of status or amended petitions." - I'm assuming this doesn't apply to I-751. or Do I need send approval notices from Adjustment of Status?

And finally, "Provide both the receipt notice number and the A-Number as an identifier." I have the A-number in the cover letter follow up the copy of my green card. Do I need to put the receipt notice number and what is the receipt notice number?

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Thank you all for your advice. It has been great help.

On USCIS website, it says "Mark both the envelope and the cover letter as to the nature of the submission."

So should the USPS Priority Envelope say:?

ORIGINAL SUBMISSION - I-751 REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

USCIS Vermont Service Center

P.O. Box 200

St. Albans, VT 05479-0001

It also says "Send copies of any prior approval notices with any new requests for extensions of stay, change of status or amended petitions." - I'm assuming this doesn't apply to I-751. or Do I need send approval notices from Adjustment of Status?

And finally, "Provide both the receipt notice number and the A-Number as an identifier." I have the A-number in the cover letter follow up the copy of my green card. Do I need to put the receipt notice number and what is the receipt notice number?

Put "ORIGINAL SUBMISSION - I-751 REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS" along the top or bottom of the envelope, since that's not part of the address.

"Send copies of any prior approval notices with any new requests for extensions of stay, change of status or amended petitions." <-- That's for if you're adding something to a petition already in progress. A new petition doesn't need them, no.

"Do I need to put the receipt notice number and what is the receipt notice number?" <-- Just the A number is fine, where it asks for it on the forms. The receipt number is again just for if you're trying to change/add something to an existing petition (you're not). As long as you've filled out the I-751 completely and accurately, they'll have all they need from you here.

* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

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I thought about punching holes for ACCO fastners when we sent in AOS packet.

But it seemed sort of silly to me since the holes would go right though some blocks of info on the forms, thus either destroying the info or obscuring it.

So we didn't punch the holes.

I don't understand them recommending we do it, since it makes their job harder in some respects.


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10 YEAR GREEN CARD PROCESS

July 22, 2017  ROC packet sent to Vermont.

July 24, 2017  ROC packet signed for in Vermont.

August 8, 2017  NOA received at house.  15 days since ROC signed for in VSC.

August 12, 2017 ASC appointment received. 19 days since ROC in VSC.

August 25, 2017 BIO completed. 32 days since ROC received in VSC.

August 11, 2018  18 month 'Courtesy Copy' extension letter received.  Critical number  297

October 20, 2018 18 month 'Official' extension letter received.  Critical number 297

December 4, 2018  USCIS Account shows: We approved your Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence, 

December 4, 2018, ordered your new card for Receipt # EAC17297003XX, and will mail to the address you gave.

491 days from NOA issued by VSC until Petition approved.

December 7, 2018 USCIS sent notice:  Card mailed.

December 12, 2018 Ten year Green Card received from Lees Summit, MO

499 days from NOA issued by VSC until Green Card received.

- - - - - - - - - - 

CITIZENSHIP PROCESS

December 6, 2018 submitted N-400 application on-line.  Estimated Completion Time: 8 months or August 2019.

December 8, 2018 received notice on USCIS that Biometrics scheduled . . . but the actual date was not yet shown.

December 11, 2018 saw in 'Documents' section of USCIS that Bio scheduled for 24 December 2018.

December 21, 2018 saw on USCIS website that they will be closed 24 December 2018 as extra holiday.

January 9, 2019 went for re-scheduled BIO appointment.  33 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

February 19, 2019 received letter in US mail that Citizenship interview scheduled for 26 March 2019. 74 days after submission on-line.

March 26, 2019 Citizenship interview scheduled for.  109 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

March 26, 2019 Passed Citizenship interview.

April 12, 2019  Received notice that Oath Ceremony had been scheduled for 24 April 2019.  17 days after interview.

April 24, 2019  Oath Ceremony completed.  29 days after interview.     139 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

April 25, 2019  USA Passport Application submitted.

May 3, 2019     USA Passport received.    149 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

May 9, 2019     Certificate of Naturalization and Citizenship returned in mail.

 

 

 

 

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Punching holes shouldn't be going through any information. Make sure you print the forms with the correct margins. They punch holes in them.

* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

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