Friends don't let friends use internet explorer

[faith 0]

Firefox has tabs which people like a lot and its smaller so it loads faster. It also has a better rendering engine and just feels a little more sporty when you use it. Personally, I hate it, as do most people. It crashes if you get a lot of popups and open up a lot of instances of it then after it shuts down, you have to hit the three fingered salute button and then kill the firefox process but other than that its state of the art :-) I dont use opensource software on principle. We allready buy oil from terrorists, no need to use their whacky free software. Who the hell works for free? Commies and Terrorists thats it!

I have had literally 70 tabs and windows open of Firefox before (just a few weeks ago when I was buying Cardinals tickets) and it has NEVER crashed on me. "As do most people" most what people? Because most of the people I know prefer firefox once they've used it.

I don't buy software for the same general principal. Why pay for something that can be developed as open source. And FYI not all open source software is made by commies and terrorists. Where are you getting your info? "About the Mozilla Foundation

Established in July, 2003, with start-up support from America Online's Netscape division, the Mozilla Foundation exists to provide organizational, legal, and financial support for the Mozilla open-source software project. The Foundation has been incorporated as a California not-for-profit corporation to ensure that the Mozilla project continues to exist beyond the participation of individual volunteers, to enable contributions of intellectual property and funds and to provide a vehicle for limiting legal exposure while participating in open-source software projects.

Please consider supporting the Mozilla Foundation by making a contribution.

We thank the more than 500 individuals and organizations who have already made a donation.

Read the July 15 announcement about the creation of the Mozilla Foundation.

Mozilla Foundation Board of Directors:

Mitch Kapor, Chair

Mitchell Baker

Brian Behlendorf

Brendan Eich

Joi Ito

The Mozilla Foundation is a California non-profit corporation exempt from federal income taxation under IRC 501©3. Donations are tax deductible. " ( Mozilla makes firefox and thunderbird) Oh yeah, sounds like a bunch of commie terrorists to me!

Edited March 16, 2006 by faith

[gimygirl 0]

firefox FTW!!!

if you like IE ... the beta version for IE7 has tabbed browsing for starters! it was fun, but not fun enough for me to leave firefox!

what totally does it for me are the add-ons!! dictionary tooltip and gtranslate ROCK!! i also use adblock, all-in-one sidebar, greasemonkey, stumbleupon, fasterfox, tab mix plus, etc!!

they are always coming up with fun new ways to personalize your browser! i like my tabs on top, my husband likes them on the bottom!!

[munchkins 0]

that was good Rch

[cmartyn 0]

Faith, the crashing is a known issue in Firefox. Not everyone has issues, thats why they are having such a hard time fixing it I guess. What People? You mean the other 80% of web users? I dunno, I always thought that at about 51 %, the word most was quite applicable. Check out the Mozilla Foundation.. ROTFLOL.. what for? You think Im some kind of bandana wearing geek? Get a life. Not everyone likes firefox, it is not that much better. Since you have to wait for a tab to load before opening another, I find the feature quite useless. Its far better in IE to use the task bar.

Edited March 16, 2006 by cmartyn

[Mirorgate 0]

I prefer FF since I am not forced to download security patches for it every other day (or near enough).

Unfortunately.. most of the sites my wife looks at are set up IE as default browser.. kinda sucks, but there is that.

[Jasman0717 9]

[faith 0]

Faith, the crashing is a known issue in Firefox. Not everyone has issues, thats why they are having such a hard time fixing it I guess. What People? You mean the other 80% of web users? I dunno, I always thought that at about 51 %, the word most was quite applicable. Check out the Mozilla Foundation.. ROTFLOL.. what for? You think Im some kind of bandana wearing geek? Get a life. Not everyone likes firefox, it is not that much better. Since you have to wait for a tab to load before opening another, I find the feature quite useless. Its far better in IE to use the task bar.

And not everyone has issues. That was my point. Your statement was a blanket statement condeming firefox.

What people? you said most people hate it. MOST people I know, do not. Again, you used a blanket statement.

You said open source programs were made by terrorists and commies... NOT TRUE.. just illustrating the point that you are wrong.

What is that "bandana wearing geek" comment supposed to mean?

[gimygirl 0]

i don't understand the crash issue though ... if FF crashes, you just click to open it back up and restore all your pages!?!?

[Mirorgate 0]

What is that "bandana wearing geek" comment supposed to mean?

Banana Peel smoking, hippie bearded tree huggin commie/terrorist sympathizing bastages....

Or motorcycle enthusiasts... not to sure on which is which though.

and 11 yrs ago? Sure, if you think 612K is enough.

[faith 0]

What is that "bandana wearing geek" comment supposed to mean?

Banana Peel smoking, hippie bearded tree huggin commie/terrorist sympathizing bastages....

Or motorcycle enthusiasts... not to sure on which is which though.

and 11 yrs ago? Sure, if you think 612K is enough.

thanks for clearning that up!

yeah ok whatever. as if all computer geeks are hippies. I am amazed at the stupidity that I see sometimes online.

Edited March 16, 2006 by faith

[cmartyn 0]

Faith, browser sensitivity is a disease, its a browser, who cares. Here is a link to a Firefox issue that has existed for over a year which is still not fixed. To me, its a major issue, applications should start and exit properly, they should not leave processes hung in memory.

http://internetweek.cmp.com/technology/164301406

The bandanna wearing geek comment was a reference to they types of people who used to run UNIX backends at isp shops.. the Red Linux bandanna was very popular. I think because it matched their pimples and stuff.

The commie and terrorist comment was a joke. Geez, a little levity. If you are willing to work for free, because you enjoy it so much, there is something wrong with you. Only in software development does this occur. I cant get an apprentice plumber out to fix my taps for free. I just think its odd that people want to give something away is all.. The communist / terrorist remark referred to the free labor.

And my blanked condemnation of the Firefox browser shouldn't upset you so.... Firefox blows. Its not your fault. I mean some people think ABBA was a great rock group, It doesn't mean everyone is going to like them. Web browsers for some people are like cell phone wallpaper. Totally useless gadget where they want to have the coolest thing. Great. Go Nuts. At least Firefox wont jazz your system like Netscape used to.

[iteq 0]

Faith, the crashing is a known issue in Firefox. Not everyone has issues, thats why they are having such a hard time fixing it I guess. What People? You mean the other 80% of web users? I dunno, I always thought that at about 51 %, the word most was quite applicable. Check out the Mozilla Foundation.. ROTFLOL.. what for? You think Im some kind of bandana wearing geek? Get a life. Not everyone likes firefox, it is not that much better. Since you have to wait for a tab to load before opening another, I find the feature quite useless. Its far better in IE to use the task bar.

And how many security releases have M$ patched on IE and Outlook??

[faith 0]

Faith, browser sensitivity is a disease, its a browser, who cares. Here is a link to a Firefox issue that has existed for over a year which is still not fixed. To me, its a major issue, applications should start and exit properly, they should not leave processes hung in memory.

http://internetweek.cmp.com/technology/164301406

The bandanna wearing geek comment was a reference to they types of people who used to run UNIX backends at isp shops.. the Red Linux bandanna was very popular. I think because it matched their pimples and stuff.

The commie and terrorist comment was a joke. Geez, a little levity. If you are willing to work for free, because you enjoy it so much, there is something wrong with you. Only in software development does this occur. I cant get an apprentice plumber out to fix my taps for free. I just think its odd that people want to give something away is all.. The communist / terrorist remark referred to the free labor.

And my blanked condemnation of the Firefox browser shouldn't upset you so.... Firefox blows. Its not your fault. I mean some people think ABBA was a great rock group, It doesn't mean everyone is going to like them. Web browsers for some people are like cell phone wallpaper. Totally useless gadget where they want to have the coolest thing. Great. Go Nuts. At least Firefox wont jazz your system like Netscape used to.

First of all, there is nothing wrong with UNIX. And if you feel so strongly about the "geeks" you should think about how you should be thanking them that you are able to post on a board on the internet like this. Where would software developement be without the geeks? You think Microsoft wasn't started by a geek? you should know better.

Levity? I don't think it's funny to be walking around calling people commies and terrorists when you know nothing about them.

I'm not upset. I just think that it's sad that you want to spread ignorance.

Working for free? Gosh, I guess all those people that donate time at charities are just useless to you then? Is the concept of doing something for the IDEA of it beyond you?

[cmartyn 0]

Im not sure, To calculate that you would have to trust that what MS puts in a patch or service pack description is the whole truth. Post SP2 I have about 20 Service packs, many of which seem to deal with Internet explorer according to the descriptions. Some of them patch multiple issues. Dunno, By Contrast, The Firefox buglog has 18000 of them in it.

Oh please, I didnt invent the bandana wearing geek lable. That was a phrase I read in Peter Vanderlindens infamous Deep C Secrets book. I thought it was cute when I read it. You obviously are just hearing it for the first time. Get over yourself, your knowledge of this topic is laughable at best. Enjoy your self lovefest.

[iteq 0]

Faith, browser sensitivity is a disease, its a browser, who cares. Here is a link to a Firefox issue that has existed for over a year which is still not fixed. To me, its a major issue, applications should start and exit properly, they should not leave processes hung in memory.

http://internetweek.cmp.com/technology/164301406

The bandanna wearing geek comment was a reference to they types of people who used to run UNIX backends at isp shops.. the Red Linux bandanna was very popular. I think because it matched their pimples and stuff.

The commie and terrorist comment was a joke. Geez, a little levity. If you are willing to work for free, because you enjoy it so much, there is something wrong with you. Only in software development does this occur. I cant get an apprentice plumber out to fix my taps for free. I just think its odd that people want to give something away is all.. The communist / terrorist remark referred to the free labor.

And my blanked condemnation of the Firefox browser shouldn't upset you so.... Firefox blows. Its not your fault. I mean some people think ABBA was a great rock group, It doesn't mean everyone is going to like them. Web browsers for some people are like cell phone wallpaper. Totally useless gadget where they want to have the coolest thing. Great. Go Nuts. At least Firefox wont jazz your system like Netscape used to.

please note that IE is also running in the background. Good luck getting rid of that btw, oh and with IE running you're also open for activeX calls especially if you're not otherwise properly protected ... that's allways a good way to get a bunch of nice spyware into your system and that's allways nice right?

And if you wanna compare to cellphone wallpaper, I'd have to say that IE is a better match than firefox ... ie doesnt even follow the html language because M$ wanted you to be able to create webpages with fancier colors through css ... oh and that lead to another security fix cause 2 lines of code would delete half your files in an instant....

BTW it was only the redhat distribution of linux that had the red bandanas ... only wimpy windows users tried to switch to redhat cause they couldnt live without their gui interfaces