some suggestions, please

[josefine 0]

So, here is a little history. In June 2006 I returned to Romania ( I have dual citizenship- Romanian/American) and planned our wedding in 2007, just because I knew that DCF at the US Embassy in Romania moves fast and there is little waiting. The law that was recently passed "forced us" to get married last Saturday to start the process with the USCIS ( we are still going to have the wedding party and the religious ceremony in the Summer, we got married only through a civil ceremony). We planned the wedding anyway, but my parents couldn't be here, in Romania.

So, in June 2006 I move to Romania. I enter Romania with my Romanian passport ( I knew I would stay for more than a year and US citizens have to apply for a visa if their stay is longer than 90 days and pay a fee:D) and since then, except for a trip to Austria that took 20 days in August and a research program in Italy from September to late October I was here, with my husband. I called the US Embassy in Bucharest and they told me that in Vienna there is a USCIS sub-office that takes care of the I-130 petitions, the only condition is that of being for the last 6 months here. I called in Vienna and they told me to get a document issued by the Romanian government stating that, I, US citized, have been living here since June. I told them that I have dual citizenship and that I entered Romania with my Romanian passport and they couldn't offer any suggestions of how to prove that I have been living in Romania. I did absolutely nothing here, I did not get a job, except for the research program in the fall. The officer in Vienna told me that I should get some kind of residency card to show that I was here. I do have a residency card, but it is the one issued for Romanians not for foreigners.

So, I was thinking to show them all my statements from the bank and all the withdrawals were from Romania. I did not file for taxes, my parents put me on their taxes, but it's not too late for the change, anyway. I don't have any other ideas of how to prove them I was here since June.

I am planning to ask the Border Police to issue me a document stating the date when I entered Romania, but I don't think that would be possible, ( the bureaucracy in Romania is terrible)

Thanks for any suggestions,

[MaydayDas 1]

So, here is a little history. In June 2006 I returned to Romania ( I have dual citizenship- Romanian/American) and planned our wedding in 2007, just because I knew that DCF at the US Embassy in Romania moves fast and there is little waiting. The law that was recently passed "forced us" to get married last Saturday to start the process with the USCIS ( we are still going to have the wedding party and the religious ceremony in the Summer, we got married only through a civil ceremony). We planned the wedding anyway, but my parents couldn't be here, in Romania.

So, in June 2006 I move to Romania. I enter Romania with my Romanian passport ( I knew I would stay for more than a year and US citizens have to apply for a visa if their stay is longer than 90 days and pay a fee:D) and since then, except for a trip to Austria that took 20 days in August and a research program in Italy from September to late October I was here, with my husband. I called the US Embassy in Bucharest and they told me that in Vienna there is a USCIS sub-office that takes care of the I-130 petitions, the only condition is that of being for the last 6 months here. I called in Vienna and they told me to get a document issued by the Romanian government stating that, I, US citized, have been living here since June. I told them that I have dual citizenship and that I entered Romania with my Romanian passport and they couldn't offer any suggestions of how to prove that I have been living in Romania. I did absolutely nothing here, I did not get a job, except for the research program in the fall. The officer in Vienna told me that I should get some kind of residency card to show that I was here. I do have a residency card, but it is the one issued for Romanians not for foreigners.

So, I was thinking to show them all my statements from the bank and all the withdrawals were from Romania. I did not file for taxes, my parents put me on their taxes, but it's not too late for the change, anyway. I don't have any other ideas of how to prove them I was here since June.

I am planning to ask the Border Police to issue me a document stating the date when I entered Romania, but I don't think that would be possible, ( the bureaucracy in Romania is terrible)

Thanks for any suggestions,

Josefine,

If you have the residence card, just go to the police in your area and ask them for a statement that you were in their evidence in that period. Go with that statement and translate it in english and then you need the Haga stamps on it to be recognized international.

Good luck,

Adriana

[josefine 0]

Thank you for your answer, the residency card is the one issued for Romanians ( buletin de identitate), I don't have the one issued for foreigners and I did not register with the police, just because I had all the Romanian papers.

Correctly if I'm wrong, do you suggest to go to the police and ask them for some paper that I was here as a Romanian?

[meauxna 15]

What's wrong with the research project evidence or the RO residency card? CIS doesn't care if you're a dual.

You have no record of your entry? (pp was not stamped or scanned at entry?)

Copies of your RO pp with your sworn statement of when you arrived?

Have you made any credit card purchases or used a bank card of any kind since you arrived?

Have you had any mail forwarded to you?

Have you changed your contact info for anywhere in the US?

Worst comes to worst, sworn affidavits from the most reputable people who can truthfully say you've been there.

[maryandatif 0]

Didn't you take any pictures during the last 6 months? If you did that can prove that you have had continued presense in Romania. I have a camera that dates the pictures. I have been using that feature as we have been taking pics to submit with AOS and at the AOS interview.

Mary K.

[josefine 0]

What's wrong with the research project evidence or the RO residency card? CIS doesn't care if you're a dual.

You have no record of your entry? (pp was not stamped or scanned at entry?)

Copies of your RO pp with your sworn statement of when you arrived?

Have you made any credit card purchases or used a bank card of any kind since you arrived?

Have you had any mail forwarded to you?

Have you changed your contact info for anywhere in the US?

Worst comes to worst, sworn affidavits from the most reputable people who can truthfully say you've been there.

I don't know what is wrong, I asked them and they were very ambiguous. I was caught by surprise and I did not think fast enough. I will tell them tomorrow if my RO residency card would suffice.

I do have a record, romanian passport was scanned and stamped at point of entry.

good idea of my ro pp and sworn statement.

no cc purchases, just the withdrawals from my US bank. the statements show clearly the location of the withdrawals. and i have more that one withdrawal/month.

no, i did not change my contact info, my permanent address is the same as my parents. i thought at that time i would leave as it is.

good idea with the affidavit. what do you mean by reputable people? the mayor of the city?) or people who know me?

thanks

Edited March 19, 2007 by josefine

[josefine 0]

Didn't you take any pictures during the last 6 months? If you did that can prove that you have had continued presense in Romania. I have a camera that dates the pictures. I have been using that feature as we have been taking pics to submit with AOS and at the AOS interview.

Mary K.

yes, i do have pictures, lots of pictures, but not many of them are dated ( i don't like that feature). of course, i can see what i can find. i will ask tomorrow in vienna if pictures can be evidence of my stay here.

this is more like a brainstorming, but i truly hope that we can think of something to be good enough.

[MaydayDas 1]

Thank you for your answer, the residency card is the one issued for Romanians ( buletin de identitate), I don't have the one issued for foreigners and I did not register with the police, just because I had all the Romanian papers.

Correctly if I'm wrong, do you suggest to go to the police and ask them for some paper that I was here as a Romanian?

Va puteti duce la politia din jurisdictia dumneavoastra cu pasaportul, care are data cand ati intrat in Romania, si un act de identitate romanesc care are trecut domiciliul (ex. buletin de identitate) si puteti solicita o adeverinta precum domiciliati la adresa respectiva.

In caz ca politia nu va ajuta, puteti face o declaratie la notariat pe care o supra legalizati.

Cu respect,

Adriana

[josefine 0]

Thank you for your answer, the residency card is the one issued for Romanians ( buletin de identitate), I don't have the one issued for foreigners and I did not register with the police, just because I had all the Romanian papers.

Correctly if I'm wrong, do you suggest to go to the police and ask them for some paper that I was here as a Romanian?

Va puteti duce la politia din jurisdictia dumneavoastra cu pasaportul, care are data cand ati intrat in Romania, si un act de identitate romanesc care are trecut domiciliul (ex. buletin de identitate) si puteti solicita o adeverinta precum domiciliati la adresa respectiva.

In caz ca politia nu va ajuta, puteti face o declaratie la notariat pe care o supra legalizati.

Cu respect,

Adriana

adriana, mersi. o sa incerc si asa.

[MaydayDas 1]

Thank you for your answer, the residency card is the one issued for Romanians ( buletin de identitate), I don't have the one issued for foreigners and I did not register with the police, just because I had all the Romanian papers.

Correctly if I'm wrong, do you suggest to go to the police and ask them for some paper that I was here as a Romanian?

Va puteti duce la politia din jurisdictia dumneavoastra cu pasaportul, care are data cand ati intrat in Romania, si un act de identitate romanesc care are trecut domiciliul (ex. buletin de identitate) si puteti solicita o adeverinta precum domiciliati la adresa respectiva.

In caz ca politia nu va ajuta, puteti face o declaratie la notariat pe care o supra legalizati.

Cu respect,

Adriana

adriana, mersi. o sa incerc si asa.

Cu placere Josefine, sa inteleg ca incepeti DCF? Bafta mare.

[josefine 0]

Thank you for your answer, the residency card is the one issued for Romanians ( buletin de identitate), I don't have the one issued for foreigners and I did not register with the police, just because I had all the Romanian papers.

Correctly if I'm wrong, do you suggest to go to the police and ask them for some paper that I was here as a Romanian?

Va puteti duce la politia din jurisdictia dumneavoastra cu pasaportul, care are data cand ati intrat in Romania, si un act de identitate romanesc care are trecut domiciliul (ex. buletin de identitate) si puteti solicita o adeverinta precum domiciliati la adresa respectiva.

In caz ca politia nu va ajuta, puteti face o declaratie la notariat pe care o supra legalizati.

Cu respect,

Adriana

adriana, mersi. o sa incerc si asa.

Cu placere Josefine, sa inteleg ca incepeti DCF? Bafta mare.

asa speram, daca nu, prin USCIS:(( dar mi-e groaza sa ma gandesc ca ar putea fi respins dosarul de la viena, de-asta vreau sa nu le dau motive. ca pierdem si timp si eu in august trebuie sa plec la doctorat. nu putem trimite mesaje private aici?

[meauxna 15]

I request that posts be in English so the most people can benefit from them, thank.

Good clarification.. these are just brainstorming ideas, not things that I know as fact.

If you know the Mayor, yes, he'd be great! But only if he himself knows you've been there. Town Drunk on the other hand, would not be "reputable" in my book.

With digital pix, can't you reprint them and add the date stamping option in the file info? I'll bet there is someway around it.

Remember that while one pice of evidence might not look much on its own, a combination of types of evidence will make a stronger picture. The ATM reciepts/bank statements are powerful (not foolproof).

Bear in mind too that you are starting a new type of filing.. rules are loose, Vienna may not be AS picky as you fear.

[josefine 0]

I request that posts be in English so the most people can benefit from them, thank.

Good clarification.. these are just brainstorming ideas, not things that I know as fact.

If you know the Mayor, yes, he'd be great! But only if he himself knows you've been there. Town Drunk on the other hand, would not be "reputable" in my book.

With digital pix, can't you reprint them and add the date stamping option in the file info? I'll bet there is someway around it.

Remember that while one pice of evidence might not look much on its own, a combination of types of evidence will make a stronger picture. The ATM reciepts/bank statements are powerful (not foolproof).

Bear in mind too that you are starting a new type of filing.. rules are loose, Vienna may not be AS picky as you fear.

ok, english. here's a synopsis: she was telling me to go to the police and ask them, based on my romanian residency card, for a document that i have been living here in the past months.

of course, this is brainstorming, i am trying to get as much as possible to be prepared so that tomorrow i will call the office in viena to ask what is the best evidence. i will keep everyone posted.

i don't know the mayor, but it's a small city and everyone knows everyone but then again, that person may not know for sure that i was there:))

i only have them in digital, i know it has the date taken, but the date is not showing up. i'll see what i can do. good idea, i like it:)) it helps in the future, also.

Edited March 19, 2007 by josefine

[ambientgirl 0]

What's wrong with the research project evidence or the RO residency card? CIS doesn't care if you're a dual.

You have no record of your entry? (pp was not stamped or scanned at entry?)

Just read this post and I was kinda curious because I am a USC but also a US/UK Dual Citizen Passport Holder. I have been living in England for 3 years.

Every time I enter England I do so on my British Passport, so neither of my US or UK passports are Stamped or Scanned.

I am about to start the I-130 process, will that cause any problems with showing my status in the UK? I do have a UK job and bank account.

I just thought it was interesting when you mentioned showing record of your entry. I guess with my passports they dont. When I go back to the states on Holiday, they do scan my American Passport and say 'welcome home', that always makes me laughs cause I dont live there anymore. LOL

Just curious. Thanks

[malka 0]

USCIS is well aware that there are dual citizens out there who want to submit petitions. We don't have all the visas and documents that single-nationality USC's would have because it's silly for us to go through a process we aren't required to do. From my last conversation with USCIS in Vienna, it was also clear that they really don't know a lot of the details of filing right now, since they just started accepting petitions from their entire jurisdiction and they seem to still be working out the details of what documents to require. Your Romanian passport, with its entry stamp, along with your Romanian residency card, should be a really good start. In fact, it should be enough! If you throw in a few extras, Meauxna is probably right, and I have a hard time imagining that USCIS will refuse you.

But please, let us know what Vienna tells you, and how it goes. You're an interesting pioneer!

Edited March 20, 2007 by malka