Question on I-134 Affadavit of Support #7

[onofre 1]

Question number 7 regarding how much annual income a person makes.

I've read that the person needs to make 125% more than the poverty level. (about $24,000-25,000) I've only had a part-time job and this past year I made almost $19,000. But I've been going to school full-time since 2003 and just graduated .

Will that affect me since I didnt make the standards that the want or can I put a supporting income from other family members that live in the same household?

Any suggestions? I have not send the I-129F petition due to gathering information.

[Niels Bohr 72]

You can find a sponsor to fill out that form who meets the criteria. You don't necessary, yourself, have to fill it out since you don't qualify as a sponsor. You may submit more than one I-134 if you like. However, all they need is one.

You will be mailed I-134 later during the process. Do not worry about it for now.

Edited March 19, 2007 by consolemaster

[Nagishkaw 510]

http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/AffSuppAFM062706.pdf

Try this site, it makes for a good read.

[TimsDaisy 0]

Get that I-129F in the mail! The I-134 come MUCH later in the process. So long as you are sure you can find a co-sponsor if one is needed, there is no use in holding up your process for something that isn't even required right now.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/AffSuppAFM062706.pdf

Try this site, it makes for a good read.

There is good information there - but bear in mind the I-864 and I-134 are NOT the same form! (Just so the OP doesn't get confused).

[Niels Bohr 72]

http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/AffSuppAFM062706.pdf

Try this site, it makes for a good read.

Sorry. That relates to form I-864, not I-134.

[Nagishkaw 510]

Yup, I realized I sent the wrong one . Sorry OP, disregard.

[YuAndDan 153]

125% of poverty line is 16,500 for a single person sponsoring 1 immigrant 18,975 in Hawaii, and 20,625 in Alaska.

The income amount you indicate is enough if you live in the lower 48.

SEE: http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

The I-134 is needed at the Visa interview, much later in the process.

[lorettelee 0]

Get that I-129F in the mail! The I-134 come MUCH later in the process. So long as you are sure you can find a co-sponsor if one is needed, there is no use in holding up your process for something that isn't even required right now.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/AffSuppAFM062706.pdf

Try this site, it makes for a good read.

There is good information there - but bear in mind the I-864 and I-134 are NOT the same form! (Just so the OP doesn't get confused).

So what IS the difference between the I-134 & I-864? I can't quite figure it out.

We're filing a K-1 in Jordan and the embassy there said to bring the affidavit of support to the interview and that all forms are on it's website. The website had a link for the I-864, so that's the one I filled out and sent to my fiance in Amman. I thought that the proper form would be sent to me when the time came, but my fiance never received 'packet 3' either. Our interview is on May 2nd. Do I need to send him the other form?

[rebeccajo 14]

Firstly.....let me say I don't think it's bad AT ALL that the OP has delayed sending his I129F out until he had a grip on what's ahead of him further down the road.

That being said - financial evidence for sponsorship ISN'T required as this phase of the process. If you are comfortable you will be able to meet that criteria, you can file now and start gathering your financial evidence while the petition is in process.

You will need to meet certain criteria as your SO's sponsor at their interview state. Most consulates use the I134. There is no specific form DOS asks them to use. It is strictly up to each consulate. One or two don't even use it. Sooooooo......read up on what is required for your consulate.

A basic working knowledge of the I134 is in order. THERE IS NO MENTION IN THE I134 OF THE US POVERTY GUIDELINES, AND CERTAINLY NO MENTION OF MEETING 125% OF THAT GUIDELINE. Most consulates will use 100% of the guideline. THERE IS ALSO NO DEFINITION OF HOUSEHOLD SIZE IN THE I134.

HOWEVER.....

Later on, once your SO is here and you have married, you will need to file form I864 as part of their Adjustment of Status. Form I864 is more stringent - family size is clearly spelled out and so is the stipulation of evidence of income equal to or greater than 125% of the US Poverty Guidelines.

So...most VJ members will advise it is best to analyze your finances now. Prepare for the visa interview with form I134 AS IF it were your AOS filing (form I864).

*disclaimer added - this is a very basic whitewashed description of the uses of the two forms. Your mileage may vary depending on your consulate and your circumstances*

Edited March 20, 2007 by rebeccajo

[YuAndDan 153]

So what IS the difference between the I-134 & I-864? I can't quite figure it out.

We're filing a K-1 in Jordan and the embassy there said to bring the affidavit of support to the interview and that all forms are on it's website. The website had a link for the I-864, so that's the one I filled out and sent to my fiance in Amman. I thought that the proper form would be sent to me when the time came, but my fiance never received 'packet 3' either. Our interview is on May 2nd. Do I need to send him the other form?

The I-134 is only used at the consulate for Non-Immigrant visas like K-1 and K-3.

The I-864 is used for sponsoring an immigrant getting a Green-Card, the consulate will use the I-864 only with visas that automatically generate a Green-Card after entry into the USA, such as CR-1, or IR-1 immigrant visas.

The I-864 is used by an K-1, K-3 visa holder when they adjust status in the USA.

So I-864 is used for Green-Card sponsor, and I-134 is used for Non-Immigrant visas.

[lorettelee 0]

So what IS the difference between the I-134 & I-864? I can't quite figure it out.

We're filing a K-1 in Jordan and the embassy there said to bring the affidavit of support to the interview and that all forms are on it's website. The website had a link for the I-864, so that's the one I filled out and sent to my fiance in Amman. I thought that the proper form would be sent to me when the time came, but my fiance never received 'packet 3' either. Our interview is on May 2nd. Do I need to send him the other form?

The I-134 is only used at the consulate for Non-Immigrant visas like K-1 and K-3.

The I-864 is used for sponsoring an immigrant getting a Green-Card, the consulate will use the I-864 only with visas that automatically generate a Green-Card after entry into the USA, such as CR-1, or IR-1 immigrant visas.

The I-864 is used by an K-1, K-3 visa holder when they adjust status in the USA.

So I-864 is used for Green-Card sponsor, and I-134 is used for Non-Immigrant visas.

Thanks so much for clearing that up. Ok, so I was starting to fill out I-134 and noticed that the expiration date is 4/30/07. Does that mean it just has to be filled out, signed and notarized before that date? Or presented at interview by then? Will a new version of the form be available soon enough for me to get it to my fiance by the time of his interview at 9a on May 2?

Edited March 22, 2007 by lorettelee

[serendipitous 0]

Why does everyone always say that it's only necessary to file one I-134? From this page it says:

"The US fiance is ALWAYS the primary sponsor, but may have a co-sponsor. If there is a co-sponsor, both the

US fiance and the co-sponsor will EACH have to fill out the affidavit I-134 or I-864 and EACH will have to provide

supporting documentation."

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=support

I just sent my I-134 documents to my fiance, and I had a cosponsor and we each did one. But I'm just wondering why does everyone say there's only one required document of this even if you get a cosponsor?

Not trying to say anyone is wrong, cause I don't know, I just get mixed messages.

Edited March 22, 2007 by serendipitous

[pushbrk 12,824]

Why does everyone always say that it's only necessary to file one I-134? From this page it says:

"The US fiance is ALWAYS the primary sponsor, but may have a co-sponsor. If there is a co-sponsor, both the

US fiance and the co-sponsor will EACH have to fill out the affidavit I-134 or I-864 and EACH will have to provide

supporting documentation."

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=support

I just sent my I-134 documents to my fiance, and I had a cosponsor and we each did one. But I'm just wondering why does everyone say there's only one required document of this even if you get a cosponsor?

Not trying to say anyone is wrong, cause I don't know, I just get mixed messages.

The answer is a couple posts above. For K visas the I-134 is used to obtain the visa and later the I-864 is used during the process of adjusting status. (getting the green card)

One document for getting the visa.

One document for adjusting status.

Edited March 22, 2007 by pushbrk

[CountryBoy 0]

this post has been moved from the K-1 discussion group

[JoeMama 0]

Firstly.....let me say I don't think it's bad AT ALL that the OP has delayed sending his I129F out until he had a grip on what's ahead of him further down the road.

I absolutely agree. I've tried to give OP and others messages of encouragement to read about what they are actually involved in. When they jump from thread to thread just posting questions and waiting for anyone to answer them. It makes it too easy and people really aren't doing them a favor. With these people taking shortcuts, they are doing a big inservice to themselves and their foreign fiancee/spouses.

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