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Yeah they need to be fired and ask for a full refund. With no job her chances of s tourist visa is slim.

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Asking this for a friend.

I know a couple that has met twice and intend to apply for K1.

He is in U.S and her in Russia. She applied for tourist visa B1 through an agency, they advised her not to say she has a boyfriend in U.S. and indicated on the application that she had a russian boyfriend. Under marital status, it

says common law marriage. When I learned of this, I became worried that this could be a problem when they apply for K1.

Thoughts, and advice?

Maybe, but having the Russian boyfriend is not a good sign for the USC petitioner.

Phil (Lockport, near Chicago) and Alla (Lobnya, near Moscow)

As of Dec 7, 2009, now Zero miles apart (literally)!

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Just to clarify, she didn't list it as a common law marriage, the agency did.

But she is responsible for what is put on her tourist visa application to the embassy, if she goes to the interview and doesn't change it then or doesn't submit a new correct form before the interview then any lie is on her. She can't say later oops it was my travel agency, the embassy doesn't care as it's on her.

This has happened more in other countries and caused issues when they are subsequently petitioned for a fiancé or spousal visa and being asked for a divorce certificate for a marriage that never existed in the first place.

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K-1 Met:2002 Dating :2003 I-129F Sent : 2013-06-01 I-129F NOA2 : 2013-08-20 Medical: 2013-12-20 Interview Date : 2014-01-22 POE: 2014-02-19 Wedding: 2014-03-18

AOS/EAD Date Filed : 2014-04-04 BioAppt: 2014-05-13 EAD in Production: 2014-07-08 Interview date: 2014-07-14 Green Card received: 2014-07-19

ROC Date Filed: 2016-04-26 Cheque Cashed: 2016-05-10 NOA1: 2016-04-28 Biometrics: 2016-06-30 Approved: 11-08-2016 Green Card Received: 11-18-2016

 

Citizenship Date Filed: 2017-04-18 Cheque Cashed: 2017-04-24- NOA1:2017-04-21  Biometrics: 2017-05-19 Inline: 2017-07-12 Interview Date: 2018-02-13 Oath: 2018-03-15

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But she is responsible for what is put on her tourist visa application to the embassy, if she goes to the interview and doesn't change it then or doesn't submit a new correct form before the interview then any lie is on her. She can't say later oops it was my travel agency, the embassy doesn't care as it's on her.

This has happened more in other countries and caused issues when they are subsequently petitioned for a fiancé or spousal visa and being asked for a divorce certificate for a marriage that never existed in the first place.

Exactly. In the end she signs, which ultimately makes her responsible for what's in the application, regardless of who filled it out. These agencies don't have to worry or care about accuracy, there won't be any consequences for them. It's your friend who will be the one to deal with the fallout in the future.

When even the "Knocking" ceremony can count as married to USCIS, it seems pretty dumb to say you're in a "common law marriage" for a travel visa application if you soon intend to apply for a K-1. Whether it's a real thing in Russia or not, I wouldn't be surprised if your friend is found to be "too married" for a K-1 when the time comes.

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She said she was in a common law marriage with a RUSSIAN guy to pretend that she had ties to RUSSIA and was leaving her man behind. Not with the American.

AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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Just what everyone else said-- see if she can amend that application now. Even if the agency prepared it, she's responsible for everything it says because she does electronically sign the DS-160 before submitting where it states something along the lines of "I have read all of the questions and answers in this document and I swear that they are true, and if not I understand that it could result in a permanent ban from the US".

She's probably unlikely to get the B2 visa. Even with this "common law husband" she's unlikely to get it. But she's all but guaranteed to get the K1. Unless, of course, she gets caught lying for immigration benefits and gets banned, or unless they believe this "common law husband" thing and think that the K1 fiance is a lie. Basically, why put the sure thing at risk for something that's unlikely either way?

Marriage/ AOS Timeline:

23 Dec 2015: Legal marriage

23 Jan 2016: Wedding!

23 Jan 2016: "Blizzard of the Century", wedding canceled/rescheduled (thank goodness we were legally married first or we'd have had a big problem!) :sleepy:

24 Jan 2016: Small "civil ceremony" with friends and family who were snowed in with us. December was a bit of a secret and people had traveled internationally and knew we *had* to get married that weekend, and our December legal marriage was nothing but signing a piece of paper at our priest's kitchen table, without any sort of vows etc so this was actually a very special (if not legally significant) day. (L)

16 Apr 2016: Filed for AOS and EAD/AP (We delayed a bit-- no big rush, enjoying the USCIS break)

23 Apr 2016: Wedding! Finally! :luv:

27 Apr 2016: Electronic NOA1 for all 3 :dancing:
29 Apr 2016: NOA1 Hardcopy for all 3
29 Jul 2016: Online service request for late EAD (Day 104)
29 Jul 2016: EAD/AP Approved ~3 hours after online service request
04 Aug 2016: RFE for Green Card (requested medicals/ vaccination record. They already have it). :ranting:
05 Aug 2016: EAD/AP Combo Card arrived! (Day 111)
08 Aug 2016: Congressional constituent request to get guidance on the RFE. Hoping they see they have the form and approve!

K-1 Visa Timeline:

PLEASE NOTE. This timeline was during the period of time when TSC was working on I-129fs and had a huge backlog. The average processing time was 210+ days. This is in no way predictive of your own timeline if you filed during or after April 2015, unless CSC develops a backlog. A backlog is anything above the 5-month goal time listed on USCIS's site

14 Feb 2015: Mailed I-129f to Dallas Lockbox. (L) (Most expensive Valentine's card I've ever sent!)

17 Feb 2015: NOA1 "Received Date"
19 Feb 2015: NOA1 Notice Date
08 Aug 2015: NOA2 email! :luv: (173 days from NOA1)

17 Aug 2015: Sent to NVC

?? Aug 2015: Arrived at NVC

25 Aug 2015: NVC Case # Assigned

31 Aug 2015: Left NVC for Consulate in San Jose

09 Sep 2015: Consulate received :dancing: (32 days from NOA2)

11 Sep 2015: Packet 3 emailed from embassy to me, the petitioner (34 days from NOA2).

18 Sep 2015: Medicals complete

21 Sep 2015: Packet 3 complete, my boss puts a temporary moratorium on all time off due to work emergency :clock:

02 Oct 2015: Work emergency clears up, interview scheduled (soonest available was 5 business days away--Columbus Day was in there)

13 Oct 2015: Interview

13 Oct 2015: VISA APPROVED :thumbs: (236 days from NOA1)

19 Oct 2015: Visa-in-hand

24 Oct 2015: POE !

15 Dec 2015: Fiance's mother's B-2 visa interview: APPROVED! So happy she will be at the wedding! :thumbs:

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She has amended it. Thank you for the replies, everyone.

Good. Those travel agents/ "lawyers" can be really sleazy (or just straight up incompetent) and have gotten a lot of people in serious trouble. So roll the dice with the B2, expect a no but hope for a surprise, then proceed with the K1. Tons of people (my husband and I included) have had to do it this way.

Marriage/ AOS Timeline:

23 Dec 2015: Legal marriage

23 Jan 2016: Wedding!

23 Jan 2016: "Blizzard of the Century", wedding canceled/rescheduled (thank goodness we were legally married first or we'd have had a big problem!) :sleepy:

24 Jan 2016: Small "civil ceremony" with friends and family who were snowed in with us. December was a bit of a secret and people had traveled internationally and knew we *had* to get married that weekend, and our December legal marriage was nothing but signing a piece of paper at our priest's kitchen table, without any sort of vows etc so this was actually a very special (if not legally significant) day. (L)

16 Apr 2016: Filed for AOS and EAD/AP (We delayed a bit-- no big rush, enjoying the USCIS break)

23 Apr 2016: Wedding! Finally! :luv:

27 Apr 2016: Electronic NOA1 for all 3 :dancing:
29 Apr 2016: NOA1 Hardcopy for all 3
29 Jul 2016: Online service request for late EAD (Day 104)
29 Jul 2016: EAD/AP Approved ~3 hours after online service request
04 Aug 2016: RFE for Green Card (requested medicals/ vaccination record. They already have it). :ranting:
05 Aug 2016: EAD/AP Combo Card arrived! (Day 111)
08 Aug 2016: Congressional constituent request to get guidance on the RFE. Hoping they see they have the form and approve!

K-1 Visa Timeline:

PLEASE NOTE. This timeline was during the period of time when TSC was working on I-129fs and had a huge backlog. The average processing time was 210+ days. This is in no way predictive of your own timeline if you filed during or after April 2015, unless CSC develops a backlog. A backlog is anything above the 5-month goal time listed on USCIS's site

14 Feb 2015: Mailed I-129f to Dallas Lockbox. (L) (Most expensive Valentine's card I've ever sent!)

17 Feb 2015: NOA1 "Received Date"
19 Feb 2015: NOA1 Notice Date
08 Aug 2015: NOA2 email! :luv: (173 days from NOA1)

17 Aug 2015: Sent to NVC

?? Aug 2015: Arrived at NVC

25 Aug 2015: NVC Case # Assigned

31 Aug 2015: Left NVC for Consulate in San Jose

09 Sep 2015: Consulate received :dancing: (32 days from NOA2)

11 Sep 2015: Packet 3 emailed from embassy to me, the petitioner (34 days from NOA2).

18 Sep 2015: Medicals complete

21 Sep 2015: Packet 3 complete, my boss puts a temporary moratorium on all time off due to work emergency :clock:

02 Oct 2015: Work emergency clears up, interview scheduled (soonest available was 5 business days away--Columbus Day was in there)

13 Oct 2015: Interview

13 Oct 2015: VISA APPROVED :thumbs: (236 days from NOA1)

19 Oct 2015: Visa-in-hand

24 Oct 2015: POE !

15 Dec 2015: Fiance's mother's B-2 visa interview: APPROVED! So happy she will be at the wedding! :thumbs:

!

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Canada
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She said she was in a common law marriage with a RUSSIAN guy to pretend that she had ties to RUSSIA and was leaving her man behind. Not with the American.

Sorry, you're right. I did understand the situation but got the consequences twisted in my head. What I should have said was she would be putting herself between a rock and a hard place - the consequences of misrep vs USCIS potentially wanting a divorce decree for a marriage that doesn't exist before allowing a K-1 or CR-1. Either would be tough to overcome.

She's apparently amended the application, so it's moot anyway.

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Russia
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Ugh.

Russia is very easy for K1 and very tough on unmarried girls for tourist visa. If your friend gets the visa and then gets married and adjusts here, it will just prove the point that it should be even harder. I know it sucks to not be able to visit and I relate and sympathize wholeheartedly. Still what your friend is doing right now is exactly making it worse for everybody else, and I hope she understands it.

My ex-girlfriend got denied tourist visa, even though she had a job (and property, and family with extremely close ties etc).

For your friend, being unemployed, chances are extremely slim either way. Having a fake boyfriend wouldn't really help that much, but may hurt her down the line when applying for K1. She made the right decision.

K1 to POE
01.14.2015 - met online in an RPG chatroom
02.27.2015 - met in person
04.20.2015 - I-129F mailed
04.21.2015 - I-129F received by the Lockbox as per USPS site
04.24.2015 - NOA-1 electronic copy received: both SMS (text) and e-mail
04.30.2015 - NOA-1 paper version received
06.01.2015 - NOA-2 e-mail. SQUEE! =)
06.05.2015 - NOA-2 paper version.
06.12.2015 - NVC Received, Case # Assigned (not yet visible on CEAC)
06.17.2015 - NVC processing completed, now visible on CEAC with status "Ready"
06.24.2015 - CEAC status "Administrative Processing" (for Russia: received by the Embassy, can schedule the interview).
06.26.2015 - Crossed the t's and dotted the i's, this time for real. Scheduled the interview!
07.20.2015 - Medical. Piece of cake!
07.22.2015 - Interview. 2 hours worth of waiting and 5 minutes worth of talking to the consul, "your visa is approved". Yaaay!
10.09.2015 - POE in Boston, MA. Hooray!! Welcome, my love.

POE to Green Card:
10.09.2015 - POE in Boston, MA
10.14.2015 - applied for SSN; got it a couple days later in the mail
10.31.2015 - Wedding :halloween:
11.21.2015 - Filed AOS (package including Travel Parole & Employment)
11.25.2015 - electronic NOA-1(s), 11.27.2015 - Check cashed
11.30.2015 - NOA-1s

12.18.2015 - RFE (forgot to write my name in one place on the Affidavit of Support)

12.21.2015 - Biometrics

12.23.2015 - RFE Response received by USCIS

02.10.2016 - EAD/AP approved!

02.10.2016 - EAD/AP received!

05.12.2016 - Interview scheduled for 06.15.2016 (wow, that really took 6 months from filing...)

06.15.2016 - Interview. Approved! (but not at the interview, got notification about 4 hours later)

06.30.2016 - Green Card Received!

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