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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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The information they need is requested in the application, not sure what evidence she could have had otherwise.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Canada
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Well - an update. She had her interview in Munich. It lasted precisely for one question: why do you want to travel to the United States... And answering honestly -- sightseeing and visiting with me and my family -- ended the interview with an immediate denial. They didn't even give her a chance to present a case, look at any supporting documents, nothing.

We both knew the odds of getting this visa weren't good, but to be asked one question after spending so much time gathering everything and traveling and paying the application fee... it's just insulting. I have half a mind to complain to the Consul General.

because the consulate does not need to ask what she is going to hte US for.. on the application they already saw her ties to her country, and they were weak! they knew based off her app she had no chance to get a tourist visa! young girl, from a country that many women come here and marry - odds were against her.

what are you going to complan about? i know it sucks, but nothing you can do! go visit her in the meantime or work on finalizing your divorce.. you can always meet her in mexico or somewhere close to america at a resort ect for a weekend that could be a bit cheaper

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If they knew from the application she had no chance, why have the appointment and ask her to travel to Munich? And the DS160 didn't ask for supplemental evidence. It's an online form, and the DOS notes specifically that she should bring any supporting evidence with her to the interview.

As for what to complain about: wasted time, money, and the disrespect of not having been given a real chance to make a case.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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It does seem odd that cases that are clearly not approvable are not just declined before the interview, but that is the Government for you, Consulate has to follow process.

In a tiny percentage of applications something brought may be relevant, can not imagine what it could be in this sort of case.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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It sucks that so much time and money is spent on cases with obvious little chances. But it is their rules and ball court and we are asking if we can play.

“When starting an immigration journey, the best advice is to understand that sacrifices have to be made... whether it is time, money, or separation; or a combination of all.” - Unlockable

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But it is their rules and ball court and we are asking if we can play.

I can accept that IF given a chance to play. It's not like buying a lottery ticket. She was told to bring supporting evidence to the interview -- since the online DS160 form doesn't allow for any transmission of that evidence -- that was never even looked at, never-mind actually reviewed or considered. Using your analogy, she payed to play, made the trip to the ball court, but was sent home even without having a chance to show the coach what she could do.

And the paper she was given after was a generic form about needing to show adequate ties, and blah blah blah. How could she show ties if she wasn't given a chance to do so? It makes no sense.

And I know I'm just venting and nothing is going to change from ranting in a forum. But it's just wrong.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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I am at a loss what evidence she could possibly have had.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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It would have been a greater loss of money if she had been approved in Munich but then turned away at the POE after purchasing a flight ticket.

They have pretty much made up their mind before the interview. Interviews tend to be a box-ticking exercise.

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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I am at a loss what evidence she could possibly have had.

Well, apparently so was the interviewer, apparently -- since nothing was asked for or reviewed. This is my particular point of contention. She was told to bring all supporting documents with her to Munich, but nothing was looked at.

It would have been a greater loss of money if she had been approved in Munich but then turned away at the POE after purchasing a flight ticket.

They have pretty much made up their mind before the interview. Interviews tend to be a box-ticking exercise.

You're right. THAT would have been an epic nightmare. I still can't get over the idea that a border agent can override a visa -- and invalidate all the entire process of obtaining it -- right there and then (excepting in obvious cases of terrorism). What's the point of getting the visa at all if border guys are going to make independent snap judgements all on their own?

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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You are required to furnish the following forms and documents in support of your visa application:

Confirmation page of the application form DS-160;
Appointment confirmation page (if relevant);
A passport or other travel document: Your passport or travel document must be valid for at least six months beyond your stay in the United States and contain at least one blank page. The six-month requirement does not apply to United Kingdom passports. For other nationalities, please click here. (PDF – 57 KB). If your passport is damaged, we recommend that you obtain a new passport before applying for the visa to avoid any delay in the processing of your application;
One 5 x 5 cm (2” by 2”) color photograph taken within the last six months: If you have successfully uploaded a photograph to the DS-160, you are not required to submit an additional photograph with your application. If there are any issues with the uploaded photograph, however, you will be required to provide a new one which may delay the processing of your application;
Evidence of your status in the United Kingdom, if you are not a U.K or EU passport holder;
Evidence of previously issued U.S. visas: If you are no longer in possession of the passport(s) containing the visas, you may advise the consular officer at the time of your interview or if applying by courier, include a statement with your application; and
If you have ever been arrested, cautioned, convicted you are required to declare it, even if it is considered spent and furnish a police certificate known as an ACRO. The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act does not apply to U.S. visa law. Click here for further information;
Have a medical condition that could have a bearing on your eligibility for a visa, furnish a letter from your physician which discusses your current state of health. Click here for further information;
Have been denied entry into or deported, or removed from the United States furnish documents relating to this. Click here for further information
Note: The decision to approve or deny your application will be based on the interview and information provided orally. However, the consular officer may ask for documentary evidence of the following:

Funds sufficient to cover all expenses while in the United States;
A residence abroad to which you intend to return.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

 
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