Cleveland buying prisoner vans more body armor for Republican National Convention

[ready4ONE 5,400]

A decline to 4x the national average? 8x the average of all others combined? What an achievement. You're going to put what set of sentences or words together to somehow spin that in what positive way? Sprinkle the word "racist" randomly through your post? What's racist about black people killing other black people? We all know black people cannot be racist, its impossible. OH I know its racist to bring it up? Call 911 and ask for the FBI and tell them that reporting crime rates by demographics is wrong because we're all alike. Some of us just kill more. Lots more. LOL

You fail to read and comprehend what I am telling you.

I'm not the one disputing the FBI crime stats and have already agreed Black crime rates are too high and will add are a problem deserving of notice and attention.

Where you are very very wrong and working triple overtime to miss is the fact that attention has been given and the same set of horrific statistics also point out that Black crime is trending towards a 40 year statistical low.

I have pointed out that"Black on Black crime" is part of the racist rhetorical mantra but it is false and misleading. "White on White crime" is roughly at the same percentage, and the fact is that neither is a useful way to look at the FBI crime stats since I already pointed out that crime tends to occur where people live is a much greater causal factor.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Since it was brought up I wonder if elevated tendency to aggression and violence, inability to cope with the overwhelming responsibility of workplace or classroom, making and abandoning kids by fathers, and a parasitic relationship with the communities around you can also be attributed to genetics.

well since you're wondering why don't we explore this vague connection you're attempting to make. let me make sure i'm getting your thoughts right here - genetics are responsible for:

1. tendency toward aggression

2. tendency toward violence

3. inability to cope with workplace responsibility

4. inability to cope with classroom responsibility

5. procreating and abandonment*

6. parasitic relations with immediate communities

*father/male

can you do like 23 and me testing for these afflictions???

and i'm just going to leave this here so no one will think you're original with your 'wondering'

After 1945[edit]

By 1954, 58 years after the Plessy v. Ferguson upholding of racial segregation in the United States, American popular and scholarly opinions of scientific racism and its sociologic practice had evolved.^[104] In 1960 the journal Mankind Quarterly started, which some see as a venue for scientific racism. It is criticized for a claimed extremist right-wing politics, antisemitic bent, and espousing academic hereditarianism.^[105] The magazine was founded in 1960, partly in response to the Supreme Court decision Brown v. Board of Education which desegregated the American public schooling.^[106][107]

In April 1966, Alex Haley interviewed American Nazi Party founder George Lincoln Rockwell for Playboy. Rockwell justified his belief that blacks were inferior to whites by citing a long 1916 study by G.O. Ferguson which claimed to show that the intellectual performance of black students was correlated with their percentage of white ancestry, stating "pure negroes, negroes three-fourths pure, mulattoes and quadroons have, roughly, 60, 70, 80 and 90 percent, respectively, of white intellectual efficiency."^[108] Playboy later published the interview with an editorial note claiming the study was a "discredited [...] pseudoscientific rationale for racism."^[109]

International bodies such as UNESCO attempted to draft resolutions that would summarize the state of scientific knowledge about race and issued calls for the resolution of racial conflicts. In its 1950 The Race Question, UNESCO did not reject the idea of a biological basis to racial categories,^[110] but instead defined a race as: "A race, from the biological standpoint, may therefore be defined as one of the group of populations constituting the species ** sapiens", which were broadly defined as the Caucasian, Mongoloid,Negroid races but stated that "It is now generally recognized that intelligence tests do not in themselves enable us to differentiate safely between what is due to innate capacity and what is the result of environmental influences, training and education."[1]

Today, the term "scientific racism" is used to refer to research seeming to scientifically justify racist ideology. The accusation of scientific racism often is cast upon researchers claiming the existence of quantifiable differences in intelligence among the human races, especially if said differences are partly genetic in origin. Contemporary researchers include the late Arthur Jensen (The g Factor: The Science of Mental Ability); the late J. Philippe Rushton, president of the Pioneer Fund (Race, Evolution, and Behavior); Chris Brand(The g Factor: General Intelligence and Its Implications); Richard Lynn (IQ and the Wealth of Nations); and Charles Murray and the late Richard Herrnstein (The Bell Curve), among others.^[111] These authors themselves, while seeing their work as scientific, may dispute the term "racism" and may prefer terms such as "race realism" or "racialism".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism

[Expat1 971]

well since you're wondering why don't we explore this vague connection you're attempting to make. let me make sure i'm getting your thoughts right here - genetics are responsible for:

1. tendency toward aggression

2. tendency toward violence

3. inability to cope with workplace responsibility

4. inability to cope with classroom responsibility

5. procreating and abandonment*

6. parasitic relations with immediate communities

*father/male

can you do like 23 and me testing for these afflictions???

and i'm just going to leave this here so no one will think you're original with your 'wondering'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism

Talk to your buddy who brought up the genetics idea. Me? I think its cultural, not genetic.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I know right? Read about a dude who traded his soul for a little 'action'. Heard the ego went with the soul so he made a virtual one that falls over and has to be propped up daily. Talk about cheap. LOL.....

I think I remember that. Maybe folks should pm that dude, he probably could teach them how to get some action, since it's clear by the posts here there's a lack of affection in the home.

[Expat1 971]

You fail to read and comprehend what I am telling you.

I'm not the one disputing the FBI crime stats and have already agreed Black crime rates are too high and will add are a problem deserving of notice and attention.

Where you are very very wrong and working triple overtime to miss is the fact that attention has been given and the same set of horrific statistics also point out that Black crime is trending towards a 40 year statistical low.

I have pointed out that"Black on Black crime" is part of the racist rhetorical mantra but it is false and misleading. "White on White crime" is roughly at the same percentage, and the fact is that neither is a useful way to look at the FBI crime stats since I already pointed out that crime tends to occur where people live is a much greater causal factor.

Of course its trending down. Been trending down for almost two decades, since the clinton crime bill was passed. There is a reciprical relationship between crime rate and incarceration rate, you do know that right?

So now you have what to say about the huge disparity in incarceration rates? Racism too?

[-relo- 105]

At least Cleveland is preparing for the free republican campaigning.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Talk to your buddy who brought up the genetics idea. Me? I think its cultural, not genetic.

there's that pesky context again..i'm not going to argue with you about who brought up what. we're all literate and it's on page one.

you wanted to discuss the genetic angle and listed out what issues you think could have a genetic culprit.

by the way, your list doesn't work under the 'cultural' designation either. but if you want to try and detail how your list aligns with culture (i assume black and not popular american, since you like to keep things cut along racial lines), love to hear it.

[smilesammich 10,727]

I have pointed out that"Black on Black crime" is part of the racist rhetorical mantra but it is false and misleading. "White on White crime" is roughly at the same percentage, and the fact is that neither is a useful way to look at the FBI crime stats since I already pointed out that crime tends to occur where people live is a much greater causal factor.

i'm saying, i don't think i've ever seen a post from anyone at vj lamenting the white on white crime. we should really look into if there is some genetic reason white people kill other white people.

[Ban Hammer 13,724]

i'm saying, i don't think i've ever seen a post from anyone at vj lamenting the white on white crime.

because no one cares

[smilesammich 10,727]

because no one cares

naw, i read along just about everyday and the topic of black on black crime is discussed to the point of glue by a number of vj posters. i find it hard to believe that these vj posters are only concerned about black on black crime, considering how much time they devote to fbi crime statistics broken down by race, pontificating specifics of culture depending of race and now, the science of race and societal failure and who has the genetic upper hand. so yeah 'because no one cares' is a false statement.

[Ban Hammer 13,724]

naw, i read along just about everyday and the topic of black on black crime is discussed to the point of glue by a number of vj posters. i find it hard to believe that these vj posters are only concerned about black on black crime, considering how much time they devote to fbi crime statistics broken down by race, pontificating specifics of culture depending of race and now, the science of race and societal failure and who has the genetic upper hand. so yeah 'because no one cares' is a false statement.

no one does care. where's the white lives matter movement? are blacks the only ones shot by police?

[smilesammich 10,727]

no one does care. where's the white lives matter movement? are blacks the only ones shot by police?

we have a police brutality movement that's all inclusive. if you feel the need for a white lives matter movement, go for it. i dont think the interest is there, myself. the white community doesn't have to hold itself accountable for the issues of mass incarceration/poverty/crime along racial lines the way the black community has always been expected.so whites don't get to rally in protest along racial lines either.

[Expat1 971]

I think I remember that. Maybe folks should pm that dude, he probably could teach them how to get some action, since it's clear by the posts here there's a lack of affection in the home.

I bet that dude can teach a few things about "getting action" but that's really not that unique. Dime a dozen. Learn this and what is there to show for it? Turns out the answer is: Nothing.

LOL

Believe the best answer here is catch it on TV. MTV is one possible source, NatGeo is another.

[Expat1 971]

there's that pesky context again..i'm not going to argue with you about who brought up what. we're all literate and it's on page one.

you wanted to discuss the genetic angle and listed out what issues you think could have a genetic culprit.

by the way, your list doesn't work under the 'cultural' designation either. but if you want to try and detail how your list aligns with culture (i assume black and not popular american, since you like to keep things cut along racial lines), love to hear it.

Didnt originally being up genetics but i did ask a question. Probably wasnt appropriate to suggest a genetic link in the first place and I think you called it correctly as the hardest of hard core racism. But we already know who the worst racists among us are and choose to give them a pass but that doesnt excuse them from being called on it or being treated and plastered with the exact same labels for the exact same behaviors that they assign to others.

You are saying now that you are unaware of cultural differences around you? You play dumb about as well as I do.

[Expat1 971]

i'm saying, i don't think i've ever seen a post from anyone at vj lamenting the white on white crime. we should really look into if there is some genetic reason white people kill other white people.

Maybe whining about all the wrongs ever done to you, anyone with your skin color, and any distant ancestor of anyone with your skin color is genetic