Three Current Events Involving Politics and Religion [edited title]

[smilesammich 10,727]

It can be confusing when irrelevant posts are made.

sucks you can't go back to the first title, it properly elucidated your intent with the thread.

[Expat1 971]

why are you posting terrible terrible things from 2013, it's like you work for an aggregate muslim crime feed, albeit an outdated one.

anyway i know i don't really care to read about a five year old getting raped while expat tries to tell me a cartoon cat and bag aren't 'family friendly'.

eta: only one of your links work.

Lots of people commit crimes. Any comment on that harsh and just sentence?

[smilesammich 10,727]

Lots of people commit crimes. Any comment on that harsh and just sentence?

i realize lots of people commit crimes, and you choose to focus on muslims who commit crimes, i'm not really sure why that is but normally people who single certain groups out in a negative fashion fancy themselves and the group they come from, superior. just sayin, there's your trouble.

why do you think the sentence was 'harsh and just' - i'm thinking the opposite.

[smilesammich 10,727]

let's balance things out.

breaking news from today regarding politics and religion...

Hastert was sentenced to 15 months in prison in the case involving hush money that prosecutors say was used to cover up alleged sexual abuse of a minor. In addition, according to The Associated Press, the sentence calls for "sex offender treatment, two years of supervised release after his time behind bars and a $250,000 fine that will go to a crime victims fund."

The longest-serving Republican speaker in U.S. history had faced up to five years in prison for the financial crimes.

In handing down the sentence, U.S. District Judge Thomas Durkin called Hastert a "serial child molester," according to multiple reporters in the courtroom. The former House speaker has not been charged with sex abuse because the statute of limitations has expired.

Two witnesses testified at the hearing in Chicago: a woman who says her brother was abused by Hastert, and a man who says he himself was assaulted as a teen.

Hastert, 74, pleaded guilty in October to illegally structuring bank withdrawals to evade reporting rules for large transactions. That money was used to conceal alleged sexual misconduct — given to a man who says Hastert abused him when he was 14.

The alleged victim, identified in court documents as "Individual A," is suing Hastert for not paying the full amount agreed upon between the two. He says Hastert paid $1.7 million out of $3.5 million in "compensation."

During today's hearing, a man previously only identified as "Individual D" came forward to make a statement before sentencing. Reporters tweeting from the courtroom said he is Scott Cross, 53. The Chicago Tribune, which says it had known of Cross' identity but withheld that information until now, says Cross is the brother of former longtime Illinois House Rep. Tom Cross.

Jolene Burdge, who says Hastert abused her late brother, also spoke Wednesday. Burdge said Hastert took away her brother's "right to develop his sexual identity in a normal, healthy way," a CBS News reporter tweeted.

Hastert served as House speaker from 1999 to 2007, and was a high school teacher and wresting coach in Yorkville, Ill., in the 1960s and '70s. According to court documents, it was during this time that Hastert allegedly sexually abused at least five teen boys.

As The Two-Way has reported:

"The [plea] deal states that Hastert 'agreed to provide Individual A $3,500,000 in order to compensate for and keep confidential his prior misconduct against Individual A.'

"It goes on to say that from July of 2012 to December 2014, Hastert withdrew $952,000 in amounts below $10,000 to 'evade currency transaction reporting requirements' on more than 100 occasions."

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/27/475865637/former-house-speaker-dennis-hastert-awaits-sentencing-in-hush-money-case?utm_source=npr_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20160427&utm_campaign=breakingnews&utm_term=nprnews

On the eve of his elevation to Speaker, Hastert was described as "deeply conservative at heart" and a "hide-bound, rock-ribbed Illinois conservative" by the Associated Press.[39] The AP reported: "He is an evangelical Christian who opposes abortion and advocates lower taxes, a balanced-budget amendment to the Constitution and the death penalty. And he spearheaded the GOP's highly partisan fight against using sampling techniques to take the next census. Such groups as the National Right to Life Committee, the Christian Coalition, the Chamber of Commerce and the National Rifle Association all gave his voting record perfect scores of 100. The American Conservative Union gave him an 88. Meanwhile, the liberal Americans for Democratic Action, the American Civil Liberties Union and labor organizations such as the AFL-CIO and the Teamsters each gave Hastert zero points. The League of Conservation Voters rated him a 13."[39]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Hastert

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

let's balance things out.

breaking news from today regarding politics and religion...

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/27/475865637/former-house-speaker-dennis-hastert-awaits-sentencing-in-hush-money-case?utm_source=npr_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20160427&utm_campaign=breakingnews&utm_term=nprnews

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Hastert

But but but, Muslims though...

[smilesammich 10,727]

But but but, Muslims though...

nope, i just double checked - he's not muslim. not really hearing much denouncing or rebuking coming from his fellow evangelicals either.

[Expat1 971]

Well alla hack-bar. Sounds like material for a fresh new thread. Besides the A White Frat Boy Did It So That Makes It OK defense no comment on the original post? Or the added story? Did one of these white boys spend less time in jail than it took the victim to die from the abuse they received? If not, all you've demonstrated is that you can dig up stories that, though pretty bad, arent quite up to snuff to hacking somebody up and never getting punished by the people around you because the people around you really, truly believe that what you did is OK.

So go hack to the drawing board and find us something else.

[Expat1 971]

i realize lots of people commit crimes, and you choose to focus on muslims who commit crimes, i'm not really sure why that is but normally people who single certain groups out in a negative fashion fancy themselves and the group they come from, superior. just sayin, there's your trouble.

why do you think the sentence was 'harsh and just' - i'm thinking the opposite.

Why do you think that paying half the value of a boy and serving a few weeks in jail was light? Real Law was applied in this case.

[Expat1 971]

nope, i just double checked - he's not muslim. not really hearing much denouncing or rebuking coming from his fellow evangelicals either.

Wonder what his biblical sentence would have been?

[smilesammich 10,727]

Lots of people commit crimes. Any comment on that harsh and just sentence?

that was my point, along with wondering why some of you get so dern excited about crimes involving particular groups of people.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Wonder what his biblical sentence would have been?

i wonder what the iron horde's judgement would have been.

i wonder what sort of sentence autobots would have handed down.

i wonder what piers bronsan would say.

glad your thinking outside the box, really gets the intellectual juices flowing.

[Expat1 971]

that was my point, along with wondering why some of you get so dern excited about crimes involving particular groups of people.

They're current events. Its a forum about that.

[smilesammich 10,727]

They're current events. Its a forum about that.

jah, i know they're current events. i wonder sometimes if you take the time to read what i've written. my precious feelings, expat.

[Expat1 971]

i wonder what the iron horde's judgement would have been.

i wonder what sort of sentence autobots would have handed down.

i wonder what piers bronsan would say.

glad your thinking outside the box, really gets the intellectual juices flowing.

Didnt really expect you to remember that you tossed the evangelicals into the discussion as if you could compare what one religious group doesnt do (even if its in their book) to another who does (because its there). Nice fail. Next.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Didnt really expect you to remember that you tossed the evangelicals into the discussion as if you could compare what one religious group doesnt do (even if its in their book) to another who does (because its there). Nice fail. Next.

do you see the title of the thread love? that says "three current events involving politics and religion" so..in keeping with the op - i added to boiler's aggregate crime feed the breaking news from yesterday concerning a former us POLITICIAN, who is also a proud EVANGELICAL, that attempted to pay off the students he sexually abused.

if you don't want christian white people added to the discussion, i guess you could ask boiler to update the title. but i don't know how that will turn out for the thread, yaknow>