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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Colombia
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I put my spouse on my bank accounts the day after he arrived. If for nothing else so that he could feel a sense of financial independence and also so that if something were to happen to me he would have access to funds to cover for anything. I use Bank of America. Changing to a joint account takes ID and around 5 or 10 minutes. It is not a hassle and has a lot of other benefits other than just showing immigration. With that said you don't seem uncomfortable to not have direct access to the accounts jointly and every is different I think. I am putting my spouse on everything for HIS protection. Done since arrival since 03/02/16, 401K, Life insurance, car insurance, Medical and Dental, insurance, car insurance, Checking and Savings accounts, Electric and water bill accounts, Cable accounts, apartment lease and he is an authorized user on a credit card.

He has given up his life in his home to be here to leave with me. I feel it my obligation (that I do without hesitation) to do everything I can to ensure that he will be protected and well cared for if anything were to happen to me. Oh... and this also helps out with USCIS but to me it is an afterthought.

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12/30/15: Visa Received

AOS

CIS Office : Seattle WA

03/29/16: Date Filed

04/11/16: NOA Date

05/11/16: Bio. Appt.

04/20/16: Case updated to fingerprint fee received

04/20/16: Case updated to Case is ready to be scheduled for interview as of 03-17-16

05/11/16: Bio. Appt.

06/06/16: RFIE Mail / I-864 1040 tax form (missing) resent overnight shipping. Second submission of 1040 form for 2015

08/09/16: Status update to interview scheduled for September 13th

08/17/16: Status updated to interview cancelled

08/18/16: Status updated to interview scheduled for September 20th with corrected receipt number. AKA "D" day

12/01/16: Interview: Verbal Approval

12/06/16: Status update to card has been mailed

EAD

03/29/16: Date Filed :

Case rejected for invalid fee and/or signature (failed to sign both areas - Doh!)

04/18/16: Date refiled

04/19/16: NOA -Case Received

07/20/16: Case updated to card being produced

07/26/16: Card received priority 3 day mail

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Russia
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It is what it is and we all have to jump through burning hoops to get to the end goal.

You can certainly not do it and deal with the consequences later or fall in line like the rest of us and do what you have to do.

Take a look around all the RFE's that have been issued lately, subscribe to the ROC forum to read the threads for yourself.

People have submitted everything but the kitchen sink for ROC and they still want more, mainly what has been stated over and over again

the RFE's are for joint bank accounts from the beginning of marriage and bank statements showing that co financing activity.

By all means research it yourself and don't take my word for it. I am only trying to help you.

You can gamble with AOS if you want to but you should get ready for ROC now not one months before filing.

USCIS doesn't care what your husband thinks.

No, I totally understand all that. And again, I truly appreciate your advice and I am going to take it, even though I find these rules ridiculous. Like you said, it is what it is. They have a standard of a bona fide marriage and we will have to match it. Got it.

Thank you very much for your help!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Mexico
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They understand you do not have a lot of evidence for AOS. Provide what you have.

As for ROC later, other than filing taxes jointly, there is not really one type of evidence that you must provide. Other couples have chosen not to have joint bank accounts and still been approved for ROC. You just need to make sure to have, and provide plenty of other types of evidence that shows your co-mingling of finances and co-habitation. And showing that he puts part of his income in your account each month, will also work as evidence. Even better if you can show that you both help the bills out of each of your accounts.

Link to K-1 instructions for Ciudad Juarez, Mexico > https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/K1/CDJ_Ciudad-Juarez-2-22-2021.pdf

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Russia
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They understand you do not have a lot of evidence for AOS. Provide what you have.

As for ROC later, other than filing taxes jointly, there is not really one type of evidence that you must provide. Other couples have chosen not to have joint bank accounts and still been approved for ROC. You just need to make sure to have, and provide plenty of other types of evidence that shows your co-mingling of finances and co-habitation. And showing that he puts part of his income in your account each month, will also work as evidence. Even better if you can show that you both help the bills out of each of your accounts.

That's what I thought. If they needed one specific type of evidence they would mention it in some instruction, right?

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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RFE's seem to always come back to joint bank statements from inception of marriage to show financial co mingling as an important part of evidence.

Though some couples have other overwhelming evidence of financial co mingling, some did show just as much and were still asked for the dang bank

statements, the gamble is up to you.

Here are some threads with RFE's but there are many, some AOS, most ROC.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/566794-rfe-on-i-751/

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/572987-rfe-after-marriage-interview/

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/440716-rfe-re-good-faith-marriage-what-to-do-if-limited-evidence-of-financial-co-mingling/

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/416328-rfe-bank-statements/

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I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Russia
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RFE's seem to always come back to joint bank statements from inception of marriage to show financial co mingling as an important part of evidence.

Though some couples have other overwhelming evidence of financial co mingling, some did show just as much and were still asked for the dang bank

statements, the gamble is up to you.

Here are some threads with RFE's but there are many, some AOS, most ROC.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/566794-rfe-on-i-751/

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/572987-rfe-after-marriage-interview/

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/440716-rfe-re-good-faith-marriage-what-to-do-if-limited-evidence-of-financial-co-mingling/

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/416328-rfe-bank-statements/

Thank you for the links! I've researched this a fair bit myself, too... It seems you are right about ROC, but it should be easier with AOS. Still, I guess, better safe than sorry.

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OP is adjusting status, not applying for ROC. I agree that a joint account will be important in the future, but toxicatta, I wouldn't worry about it for now. Our interview is coming up in a few weeks and we are choosing not to have a joint account before the interview? Why?--because my parents are on my checking account at BofA now, and in order for me to add my husband onto the account, everyone has to be present. My parents live in a completely different state and we won't be able to see them before the interview. I don't want to open up a new account with BofA because I would lose the long relationship I have with the bank by starting fresh. The adjudicator should understand our reasoning, as they should understand why you don't need a joint account now. Don't worry--take as much evidence as you can and you'll be fine. The difference here is that both you and your husband will be present at the interview in front of the adjudicator, so it won't be some anonymous person analyzing evidence behind a desk.

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Service Center : California Service Center
Transferred? No
☑I-129F Sent : 03-10-15
☑NOA1 : 03-20-15
☑NOA2 : 04-07-15
☑Received NOA2 hardcopy: 04-11-15
NVC received: 04-24-15
NVC Assigns Case #: 04-27-15
☑Case sent to embassy: 05-04-15
☑Embassy Packet 3 sent: 05-19-15
☑Medical: 07-03-15 and 09-07-15 (did two medicals to ensure fiance had enough time to get to U.S.)
☑Interview: 07-30-15
☑Visa Issued: 09-22-15!!!! [:thumbs:]

K1 OVERALL: NO RFE and NO LAWYER!
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Fiance arrived in USA (POE @ Boston Logan)!!!: 01-31-2016 :D
Court Marriage: 02-04-16
Sent AOS, EAD, AP Packet: 02-25-16 :dance:

Packet Delivered via USPS Priority & Certified: 02-27-16

Check cashed by USCIS: 03-03-16

NOA1's by text (x3): 03-03-16

NOA1 Hardcopies via Mail (x3): 03-07-16

Biometric Appt. Letter Received: 03-18-16 (scheduled for 03/31/16, Raleigh, NC)

Biometrics Appointment: 03-31-16; Raleigh, NC

☑"My Interview is Scheduled" Status Change: 04-12-16

Received hardcopy of Interview Notice: 04-16-16

EAD/AP Approval by Email: 04-26-16

I797 Approval Notice for EAD and AP: 04-30-16

Green Card Interview: 05-18-16; (APPROVED ON THE SPOT!) :D

I797 Approval Notice for Green Card: 05-23-16

Conditional Green Card Received!: 05-26-16 :dancing:

GC OVERALL: NO RFE and NO LAWYER!

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ROC OVERALL: NO RFE and NO LAWYER!

"120 days out" letter: 01-24-18 ☑ Submitted ROC: 03-10-18 ☑ Package delivered: 03-14-18 ☑ Waived Biometrics: 05-08-18 ☑ Interview Date Set for 05/23/19: 05-07-19 (automatic approval!) Card Received:

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N400 OVERALL: NO RFE and NO LAWYER!

Filing Date: 03/16/2019 NOA1: 03/16/2019 Biometrics Walk-In: 03/28/19 (originally scheduled for 04/08/19) ☑ Interview Date Set for 05/23/19: 04/18/19 (automatic approval!) Oath Ceremony: 07/17/19

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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OP is adjusting status, not applying for ROC. I agree that a joint account will be important in the future, but toxicatta, I wouldn't worry about it for now. Our interview is coming up in a few weeks and we are choosing not to have a joint account before the interview? Why?--because my parents are on my checking account at BofA now, and in order for me to add my husband onto the account, everyone has to be present. My parents live in a completely different state and we won't be able to see them before the interview. I don't want to open up a new account with BofA because I would lose the long relationship I have with the bank by starting fresh. The adjudicator should understand our reasoning, as they should understand why you don't need a joint account now. Don't worry--take as much evidence as you can and you'll be fine. The difference here is that both you and your husband will be present at the interview in front of the adjudicator, so it won't be some anonymous person analyzing evidence behind a desk.

Everyone understands that OP is adjusting status, perhaps you are missing the point about ROC.

If I had a penny for every time someone says don't worry you will be fine ... and then they weren't !

Your case is different. Having said that, a good explanation to the IO of why you conduct your financial transactions the way

you do can be helpful when not having a joint account. Sometimes it is accepted and sometimes it's not. Since we don't

have a crystal ball to see the future it's best to submit it and not be lackadaisical about it.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Everyone understands that OP is adjusting status, perhaps you are missing the point about ROC.

If I had a penny for every time someone says don't worry you will be fine ... and then they weren't !

Your case is different. Having said that, a good explanation to the IO of why you conduct your financial transactions the way

you do can be helpful when not having a joint account. Sometimes it is accepted and sometimes it's not. Since we don't

have a crystal ball to see the future it's best to submit it and not be lackadaisical about it.

Eh, there's no need to be snarky...anyway, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and that was mine. OP, good luck on your journey!

K1 Visa

 

Service Center : California Service Center
Transferred? No
☑I-129F Sent : 03-10-15
☑NOA1 : 03-20-15
☑NOA2 : 04-07-15
☑Received NOA2 hardcopy: 04-11-15
NVC received: 04-24-15
NVC Assigns Case #: 04-27-15
☑Case sent to embassy: 05-04-15
☑Embassy Packet 3 sent: 05-19-15
☑Medical: 07-03-15 and 09-07-15 (did two medicals to ensure fiance had enough time to get to U.S.)
☑Interview: 07-30-15
☑Visa Issued: 09-22-15!!!! [:thumbs:]

K1 OVERALL: NO RFE and NO LAWYER!
--------------------------------------------------------

POE TO GREEN CARD

 

Fiance arrived in USA (POE @ Boston Logan)!!!: 01-31-2016 :D
Court Marriage: 02-04-16
Sent AOS, EAD, AP Packet: 02-25-16 :dance:

Packet Delivered via USPS Priority & Certified: 02-27-16

Check cashed by USCIS: 03-03-16

NOA1's by text (x3): 03-03-16

NOA1 Hardcopies via Mail (x3): 03-07-16

Biometric Appt. Letter Received: 03-18-16 (scheduled for 03/31/16, Raleigh, NC)

Biometrics Appointment: 03-31-16; Raleigh, NC

☑"My Interview is Scheduled" Status Change: 04-12-16

Received hardcopy of Interview Notice: 04-16-16

EAD/AP Approval by Email: 04-26-16

I797 Approval Notice for EAD and AP: 04-30-16

Green Card Interview: 05-18-16; (APPROVED ON THE SPOT!) :D

I797 Approval Notice for Green Card: 05-23-16

Conditional Green Card Received!: 05-26-16 :dancing:

GC OVERALL: NO RFE and NO LAWYER!

--------------------------------------------------------

ROC OVERALL: NO RFE and NO LAWYER!

"120 days out" letter: 01-24-18 ☑ Submitted ROC: 03-10-18 ☑ Package delivered: 03-14-18 ☑ Waived Biometrics: 05-08-18 ☑ Interview Date Set for 05/23/19: 05-07-19 (automatic approval!) Card Received:

--------------------------------------------------------

N400 OVERALL: NO RFE and NO LAWYER!

Filing Date: 03/16/2019 NOA1: 03/16/2019 Biometrics Walk-In: 03/28/19 (originally scheduled for 04/08/19) ☑ Interview Date Set for 05/23/19: 04/18/19 (automatic approval!) Oath Ceremony: 07/17/19

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Russia
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OP is adjusting status, not applying for ROC. I agree that a joint account will be important in the future, but toxicatta, I wouldn't worry about it for now. Our interview is coming up in a few weeks and we are choosing not to have a joint account before the interview? Why?--because my parents are on my checking account at BofA now, and in order for me to add my husband onto the account, everyone has to be present. My parents live in a completely different state and we won't be able to see them before the interview. I don't want to open up a new account with BofA because I would lose the long relationship I have with the bank by starting fresh. The adjudicator should understand our reasoning, as they should understand why you don't need a joint account now. Don't worry--take as much evidence as you can and you'll be fine. The difference here is that both you and your husband will be present at the interview in front of the adjudicator, so it won't be some anonymous person analyzing evidence behind a desk.

OP, good luck on your journey!

Thank you! Yes, of course, at the actual interview the person will see both of us and we'll be able to answer any questions. And that's why my husband is so relaxed about this - his communication skills are great. But apparently a few people did have bad experiences with AOS because of some inconsequential little details.Which is a shame...

Thanks again, and the best of luck to you too!

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Everyone understands that OP is adjusting status, perhaps you are missing the point about ROC.

If I had a penny for every time someone says don't worry you will be fine ... and then they weren't !

Your case is different. Having said that, a good explanation to the IO of why you conduct your financial transactions the way

you do can be helpful when not having a joint account. Sometimes it is accepted and sometimes it's not. Since we don't

have a crystal ball to see the future it's best to submit it and not be lackadaisical about it.

Well, personally I would try to avoid even the smallest chance of getting an RFE. I have read the interview reports from people who got RFEs because they had one tiny piece of paper missing or because USCIS wanted one other piece of evidence of bona fide relationship. But I have read many, many more reports from people who brought an effing TON of papers to the interview, and the USCIS person didn't even look at them and just asked a few standard questions and approved the GC. So you are right, we don't have a crystal ball and can't see the future. We can only rely on official instructions and other people's experiences. ALL experiences, not just the bad ones.

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My wife & I had our USCIS interview on Feb. 29,2016 in Chicago. The interview went well, but we were told that the State Dept. failed to forward much of the information needed to make a decision for AOS. Fortunately we had copies of most everything except a local police report, two passport photos of myself (U.S. citizen sponsor/husband), and a new physical. We were given an RFE for those items and provided them to USCIS within two weeks. We have a copy of everything along with a receipt from the post office showing that the package was received. When we check our case status it still is showing that the RFE was sent on the interview date. Has anyone else had this experience? I thought they'd at least show that they'd received the package from us. We called the helpline once and were told we need to wait 60 days from the date USCIS received our evidence to get anymore information. It's very frustrating when we've done everything we've been asked to do with so little feedback. Thanks everyone for putting up with my rant.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Russia
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My wife & I had our USCIS interview on Feb. 29,2016 in Chicago. The interview went well, but we were told that the State Dept. failed to forward much of the information needed to make a decision for AOS. Fortunately we had copies of most everything except a local police report, two passport photos of myself (U.S. citizen sponsor/husband), and a new physical. We were given an RFE for those items and provided them to USCIS within two weeks. We have a copy of everything along with a receipt from the post office showing that the package was received. When we check our case status it still is showing that the RFE was sent on the interview date. Has anyone else had this experience? I thought they'd at least show that they'd received the package from us. We called the helpline once and were told we need to wait 60 days from the date USCIS received our evidence to get anymore information. It's very frustrating when we've done everything we've been asked to do with so little feedback. Thanks everyone for putting up with my rant.

I've actually read quite a few stories like that, where online status doesn't change and the petitioner has no way of knowing whether USCIS received their package or not. Usually people are advised to wait a little longer and then call again.

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