Why will visa be rejected after asking few questions

[IcezMan_IcezLady 582]

Let me make this assumption:

Your client won the lottery before and was denied. So that history that he wants to move here is on his record so a tourist visa may be just seemed like a cover up.

Make a formal request for the reason for the denial and resolve that issue.

[Boiler 45,525]

Let me make this assumption:

Your client won the lottery before and was denied. So that history that he wants to move here is on his record so a tourist visa may be just seemed like a cover up.

Make a formal request for the reason for the denial and resolve that issue.

I am sure his Client knows why, why be formal, could just text him.

[IcezMan_IcezLady 582]

your 'client' has something running out of his ears....he was not asked one silly question, then denied. That did not happen. Even the most fraudulent of fraudsters are asked several questions (because their answers or lack thereof provide insight to sorting out other fraudsters more rapidly and accurately...)..your client wanted his denial to look as though he did not get a 'fair hearing' - and this excuse, the CO asked only one (or none!) question, then denied my application without letting me say a word nor present even one fake bank statement is the most common one told to the applicant's friend/relative or visa fixer.

Of course, it is possible that your name is well known at our embassy in Lagos as someone who provides 'invitations' to 'conferences' that are either bogus or have no real relationship to whatever it is that the Nigerian applicant really does in beautiful downtown Lagos...few people have the resources from Nigeria to fly thousands of miles to the US, put themselves up in a hotel and pay entrance fees to conferences on topics or sales pitches for items that they could not possibly afford to buy....that's where the disconnect is....what, is this client going to go shopping for a dozen John Deere tractors? With what money, other than, of course, the proceeds from one of those Nigerian lottery scams?

Years ago, I was at the embassy with my mum for interview. This lady who 'claims' to be a seamstress was asked to demonstrate how to do French seam..ha! I felt bad for her. Home girl couldn't speak English ,let alone do a French seam. Don't ask how the interpreter translated the French seam to the local dialect.

I am sure his Client knows why, why be formal, could just text him.

I was just trying to be nice..

[Russ&Caro 1,549]

When an applicant claims to be wanting/needing to go to some conference, the next several questions posed will be testing the applicant to see if the trip itself makes any sense or if the applicant has just responded online to the conference registration form (trying to make it look like the applicant is important or necessary for the conference to succeed) - my guess this is where the client fell flat on his face, unable to provide a coherent and believable explanation as to why his presence at said conference was so vital...

I would think having an important reason to attend a conference is key to getting the visa. Years ago, a colleague of mine from Egypt came to NYC and together we presented at a corporate conference. Since he was a co-presenter, our company paid for the trip. I would think this is the easiest way to get such a visa. If it's simply someone paying their own way to be a participant at a conference instead of a contributor, then there's probably much more scrutiny by the CO.

[Ortolan 381]

Showing registration for the conference and payment receipts, an agenda, a reason to attend, et cetera...might've helped.....

[HFM181818 750]

no third party, even an attorney, is entitled to a detailed explanation as to why their client or friend or whatever was denied a tourist visa...INA section 222f states that only law enforcement folks are or might be given more details.....no one is else is permitted to know such information, and no, just being a USC does not entitle us to everything known to mankind on this planet.

The poster who told the story about the alleged seamstress who couldn't darn a sock, let alone anything else, is a prime example of what can take place during an interview. I've had people tell me they were pilots, but could not answer a single aeronautical question, people who claimed to be doctors, yet failed answering any medical question I posed to them, 'karate champions' whose hands were as soft as a down comforter...Catholic priests who had a tan line where their wedding ring had been removed a week before! The list goes on and on...people claiming to be this or that, whose presence at some conference is critical to their 'careers'....but who cannot answer even the most basic question on whatever the subject and who often merely tried to memorize information from a pamphlet...I've had applicants who tried to 'study up' on their alleged specialty.....the problem comes when I asked them questions that poked holes in their memory....or I challenged more than a few to 'show me' what they could do (if applicable)....singers and dancers would be asked to perform, minor league pitchers asked to throw a few, black belt martial arts types to break boards....and when the fraudsters tried to muddle their way through my requests, well, those occasions were more than amusing...especially the phony black belts, one of whom broke his hand trying to break a board! I've had applicants run away from the embassy when asked to give me a demo of their unique skills....I've sat alleged IT/programmers down at a computer and start writing code to just flash their name across the screen...some couldn't even turn the computer on!!!

Thus, people who are seeking a visa to attend some conference (usually for the first time in their life) are going to be quizzed....thoroughly...some tried to take my attention away from the questions by waving their 'approved application to attend' in my face....which, as I pointed out, was merely a computer generated online form that would be approved on auto pilot and meant absolutely nothing in terms of the applicant's bona fides.

Bona fide conference attendees can answer questions easily, without pause for thought, without trying to haul out a bunch of questionable documents; mala fide attendees try to avoid answering direct questions and start down another path by trying to regurgitate slogans and pamphlet prose they memorized the night before...

[almost_umrican 54]

A client of mine had his interview here in lagos and this seemed like the shortest interview ever.

CO: can i have your passport

my client: (passed it)

CO; Why are you going to florida

my client: To attend xyz conference

CO: (started typing) then gave him a refusal

it read 214b

which means immigrant intent.

my client has no relative in the US, never been to US, has a job here with good pay.

though he won the lottery 5 years ago but was denied.

my question is, if someone had shown prior interest in living permanently in US.

does this mean the person remains an intending immigrant for life?

i had mentioned this several times that there is no good case or bad case when it comes to B2. unless you are being invited by a competent authority here in US.rest all is fluke. one can speculate as much as they can. getting a B2 for someone from a high fraud country is only possible by fluke.

Edited April 22, 2016 by almost_umrican

[HFM181818 750]

It's not so much as a fluke to get a visa from a high fraud country as it is very challenging for most applicants from such countries, who have to somehow stand out as a bona fide applicant from an ocean of countrymen who have a poor reputation for honesty and adherence to laws and rules.

[*Snowdrop* 604]

On the other hand from my experience, when the visa application is successful the interview can be very very short - which seems to indicate that the decision was pretty much made before the interview took place.

I had an interview for an I visa which was granted after 2 short questions.

1. Do you have a current trip planned. - No.

2. You know you can only work for a foreign media organization with this visa. - Yes

The interview lasted less than five minutes. And I know over a dozen colleagues who had the same experience with this visa type

And then my CR1 visa had three questions.

1. Where will you be living with your husband?

2. Have you visited there before?

3. I'm about to move back to the US - do you think I would like it there too?

The interview lasted less than ten minutes.

So there must be times when a denied application is also pretty much decided before the applicant even says a word.

[HFM181818 750]

Applying for an 'I' visa is completely different than applying for a B2...same for the CR1...

[JUSTINCASE 4]

A client of mine had his interview here in lagos and this seemed like the shortest interview ever.

CO: can i have your passport

my client: (passed it)

CO; Why are you going to florida

my client: To attend xyz conference

CO: (started typing) then gave him a refusal

it read 214b

which means immigrant intent.

my client has no relative in the US, never been to US, has a job here with good pay.

though he won the lottery 5 years ago but was denied.

my question is, if someone had shown prior interest in living permanently in US.

does this mean the person remains an intending immigrant for life?

Conference of the African Association of Agricultural Economist

United Nations Conference Centre |Addis Ababa, Ethiopia|23-26 Sep 2016

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Themagician, well, you have not mentioned the branch of agriculture your client wanted to come to the United States for, but, if your client does not United States immigrant intent, and, agricultural conference is so important to him/her, advise him/her to go to Ethiopia instead for this Agricultural Economics Conference referred to above. He/she will save hundreds of thousands of Nigerian Naira if he/she goes to Ethiopia. And, it will be beneficial to him.

Also, you have a lot of conferences taking place in Africa and Asia.

[*Snowdrop* 604]

Applying for an 'I' visa is completely different than applying for a B2...same for the CR1...

I understand that - I was making a point about how much of the decision is clearly sometimes made before the interview takes place. And that must go for denied visas as well as successful applications.

I was shocked at how short my CR1 visa interview was - but of course didn't complain about it because it was successful.

[HFM181818 750]

Most people have no idea of the amount of work a lot of COs go through to make their day easier....bona fide cases need to be approved and readied to issue....bogus cases need some time..... COs (many, with experience), can easily recognize questionable cases and give those applications some additional scrutiny...(and engage their own fraud folks to make some phone calls or access the internet, etc)...a good, solid, experienced CO does not arrive or sit in his/her window unprepared to deal with so-so cases...we have already done some homework... I often scanned pending cases to look for weaknesses...and could identify them quickly....and make some arrangements for input from other sources....those applicants who thought they could fool me were sorry they ever tried.....with some focus and support from one's supervisor (the CG), a good CO can figure out a lot long before they begin an interview.....most of the time, I was so far ahead of most scam artists, they had no idea of what hit them....like a good attorney (hmmmm), I knew the answer to most questions that I might pose of the applicants....they, however, thought I was an idiot....most of them are still living in their own third world country, wondering why no one believed their baloney.

[N and J 88]

no third party, even an attorney, is entitled to a detailed explanation as to why their client or friend or whatever was denied a tourist visa...INA section 222f states that only law enforcement folks are or might be given more details.....no one is else is permitted to know such information, and no, just being a USC does not entitle us to everything known to mankind on this planet.

The poster who told the story about the alleged seamstress who couldn't darn a sock, let alone anything else, is a prime example of what can take place during an interview. I've had people tell me they were pilots, but could not answer a single aeronautical question, people who claimed to be doctors, yet failed answering any medical question I posed to them, 'karate champions' whose hands were as soft as a down comforter...Catholic priests who had a tan line where their wedding ring had been removed a week before! The list goes on and on...people claiming to be this or that, whose presence at some conference is critical to their 'careers'....but who cannot answer even the most basic question on whatever the subject and who often merely tried to memorize information from a pamphlet...I've had applicants who tried to 'study up' on their alleged specialty.....the problem comes when I asked them questions that poked holes in their memory....or I challenged more than a few to 'show me' what they could do (if applicable)....singers and dancers would be asked to perform, minor league pitchers asked to throw a few, black belt martial arts types to break boards....and when the fraudsters tried to muddle their way through my requests, well, those occasions were more than amusing...especially the phony black belts, one of whom broke his hand trying to break a board! I've had applicants run away from the embassy when asked to give me a demo of their unique skills....I've sat alleged IT/programmers down at a computer and start writing code to just flash their name across the screen...some couldn't even turn the computer on!!!

Thus, people who are seeking a visa to attend some conference (usually for the first time in their life) are going to be quizzed....thoroughly...some tried to take my attention away from the questions by waving their 'approved application to attend' in my face....which, as I pointed out, was merely a computer generated online form that would be approved on auto pilot and meant absolutely nothing in terms of the applicant's bona fides.

Bona fide conference attendees can answer questions easily, without pause for thought, without trying to haul out a bunch of questionable documents; mala fide attendees try to avoid answering direct questions and start down another path by trying to regurgitate slogans and pamphlet prose they memorized the night before...

LOL I am sorry I know you are being serious but this post just made me laugh so hard. Especially the guy who broke his hand and the Catholic priest LOL

[N and J 88]

Most people have no idea of the amount of work a lot of COs go through to make their day easier....bona fide cases need to be approved and readied to issue....bogus cases need some time..... COs (many, with experience), can easily recognize questionable cases and give those applications some additional scrutiny...(and engage their own fraud folks to make some phone calls or access the internet, etc)...a good, solid, experienced CO does not arrive or sit in his/her window unprepared to deal with so-so cases...we have already done some homework... I often scanned pending cases to look for weaknesses...and could identify them quickly....and make some arrangements for input from other sources....those applicants who thought they could fool me were sorry they ever tried.....with some focus and support from one's supervisor (the CG), a good CO can figure out a lot long before they begin an interview.....most of the time, I was so far ahead of most scam artists, they had no idea of what hit them....like a good attorney (hmmmm), I knew the answer to most questions that I might pose of the applicants....they, however, thought I was an idiot....most of them are still living in their own third world country, wondering why no one believed their baloney.

I wouldn't want to be a CO for all the money in the world. I give men and women doing this job a lot of credit. I wouldn't have the patience and I would be in jail lol.