BYU students investigated by school after reporting rape

[JayJayH 546]

I'm busy, can't type too much. We have thousands of gun deaths a year by Christians. Tell you what, let someone shoot you while yelling allah, let someone shoot you while yelling Jesus and let someone shoot you while yelling nothing. Tell me which one hurt the worst.

Nuns cover themselves... because of religion. Have you seen the Amish?

What about sex and human trafficking in u.s. prevalent for women and children? How about the amount of women being killed by their husbands. Good thing we have separation of church and state that's the biggest difference I see

I don't really care whether they shout Jesus, Allah or Spaghetti. Whether the perpetrator is personally Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, Atheist etc. is also irrelevant.

There is no organized, global movement to deliberately kill civilians in the name of any God except for Allah.

ISIS has a quarter million members. Add Al Qaida, the Taliban, Boko Haram, Abu Sayyaf, Jemmah Islamiyah, Ansar al-Islam, Jabath al-Nusra, Hezbollah etc. etc. and you have millions of jihadists.

Well-organized, well-funded groups of religious extremists who have no quarrels with killing innocent civilians in the name of their God.

Gun deaths in the U.S. are rarely from organized religious organizations. When they are committed by organized groups, it's usually street gangs with little no proclaimed religious affiliation. Different group, different problem, different solution.

I'll quote myself here:

Islamism is not just radical jihadism, but the Islamic orthodoxy that is spread through the world like a cancer by well-funded powers in Saudi Arabia, Iran and in the Gulf. It wasn't until the 1970s that Muslim women in many countries actually began covering up - The hijab today, is celebrated as the pinnacle of diversity by much of the left. Some will even go as far as calling it a symbol of feminism. What it really is, is religious orthodoxy. It's just politically incorrect to say that because hijab-wearing women are viewed as an oppressed minority, while calling Victorian dress-clad women are not viewed as an oppressed minority.

Nuns, ministers, imams, rabbis etc. are a different matter.

We sort of laugh at the Amish. We sort of chuckle at women dressed in Victorian-style dresses. We are trying meanwhile, to push this narrative of the hijab as a natural part of mainstream, secular Islam. It is not, and never really was. It should be discouraged by the left, in the same way the left would discourage other medieval ways of telling women how to dress.

Here's the thing: If I chuckle when I see an Amish woman in a black dress, it's "understandable." If I chuckle when I see a girl wearing a hijab, I'm a "bigot."

Sex trafficking in the US and Europe is a felony, seldom committed in the name of Jesus, still punishable by up to life in prison, with very own police task forces set up for the sole purpose of combating it. Women being killed by their husbands is considered murder anywhere, eligible for the death penalty in various US states. Legal in large swathes of the Middle East, where it is excusable if the woman committed adultery.

Look. I'm not saying that crimes don't happen anywhere else. I'm not saying that if a woman was raped by a Somali Muslim in Minneapolis, it was the fault of Islam.

I'm saying that there are inherent, underlying problems within Islam, as practiced in most of the Middle East, that prevent a much needed reformation of the religion as a whole.

Reforming Islam won't solve the problem of sex tourism in Cambodia. It won't solve global warming. It won't lower crime rates on the south side of Chicago.

This is the problem: Rape is far more accepted (legal when married) in large swathes of the Middle East than anywhere else. The punishment for adultery is death in most of the Middle East. The punishment for apostasy is death in much of the Middle East. The accepted punishment for being gay is death in much of the Middle East. The role of women according to Sharia is archaic, even when you compare it to the role of women in the most conservative Christian households in America. Does this make Muslims bad people? Of course not.

Christianity is like herpes. You'll have annoyances here and there. Sometimes a big rash. Then it goes away for a while, but you never really get rid of it.

Islam is more like cancer. Sometimes benign, sure. Some liberals might say that green juice will help. But on the whole, what you really need is chemotherapy to make the deadly parts go away.

Edited April 22, 2016 by JayJayH

[Janelle2002 3,865]

I don't really care whether they shout Jesus, Allah or Spaghetti. Whether the perpetrator is personally Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, Atheist etc. is also irrelevant.

There is no organized, global movement to deliberately kill civilians in the name of any God except for Allah.

ISIS has a quarter million members. Add Al Qaida, the Taliban, Boko Haram, Abu Sayyaf, Jemmah Islamiyah, Ansar al-Islam, Jabath al-Nusra, Hezbollah etc. etc. and you have millions of jihadists.

Well-organized, well-funded groups of religious extremists who have no quarrels with killing innocent civilians in the name of their God.

Gun deaths in the U.S. are rarely from organized religious organizations. When they are committed by organized groups, it's usually street gangs with little no proclaimed religious affiliation. Different group, different problem, different solution.

I'll quote myself here:

Islamism is not just radical jihadism, but the Islamic orthodoxy that is spread through the world like a cancer by well-funded powers in Saudi Arabia, Iran and in the Gulf. It wasn't until the 1970s that Muslim women in many countries actually began covering up - The hijab today, is celebrated as the pinnacle of diversity by much of the left. Some will even go as far as calling it a symbol of feminism. What it really is, is religious orthodoxy. It's just politically incorrect to say that because hijab-wearing women are viewed as an oppressed minority, while calling Victorian dress-clad women are not viewed as an oppressed minority.

Nuns, ministers, imams, rabbis etc. are a different matter.

We sort of laugh at the Amish. We sort of chuckle at women dressed in Victorian-style dresses. We are trying meanwhile, to push this narrative of the hijab as a natural part of mainstream, secular Islam. It is not, and never really was. It should be discouraged by the left, in the same way the left would discourage other medieval ways of telling women how to dress.

Here's the thing: If I chuckle when I see an Amish woman in a black dress, it's "understandable." If I chuckle when I see a girl wearing a hijab, I'm a "bigot."

Sex trafficking in the US and Europe is a felony, seldom committed in the name of Jesus, still punishable by up to life in prison, with very own police task forces set up for the sole purpose of combating it. Women being killed by their husbands is considered murder anywhere, eligible for the death penalty in various US states. Legal in large swathes of the Middle East, where it is excusable if the woman committed adultery.

Look. I'm not saying that crimes don't happen anywhere else. I'm not saying that if a woman was raped by a Somali Muslim in Minneapolis, it was the fault of Islam.

I'm saying that there are inherent, underlying problems within Islam, as practiced in most of the Middle East, that prevent a much needed reformation of the religion as a whole.

Reforming Islam won't solve the problem of sex tourism in Cambodia. It won't solve global warming. It won't lower crime rates on the south side of Chicago.

This is the problem: Rape is far more accepted (legal when married) in large swathes of the Middle East than anywhere else. The punishment for adultery is death in most of the Middle East. The punishment for apostasy is death in much of the Middle East. The accepted punishment for being gay is death in much of the Middle East. The role of women according to Sharia is archaic, even when you compare it to the role of women in the most conservative Christian households in America. Does this make Muslims bad people? Of course not.

Christianity is like herpes. You'll have annoyances here and there. Sometimes a big rash. Then it goes away for a while, but you never really get rid of it.

Islam is more like cancer. Sometimes benign, sure. Some liberals might say that green juice will help. But on the whole, what you really need is chemotherapy to make the deadly parts go away.

So your argument is because we've made it a law we are better. Ok. I'll take the, however, please tell all the parents of dead women and children in America it's ok because no one yelled Allah while raping, beating or killing them.

3 women die a day due to domestic violence.

350,000 children and counting when it comes to sex trafficking.

Ow, let's not talk about born again Jesuses and Christian sects in Texas, you know, like the one they removed 32 kids from and the kids had kids and were married off to men in their 60s.

Here's a small taste of American christian cults

persecution. With that in mind, here are the most famous and infamous cults in American history.

1. Branch Davidians

The Branch Davidians were formed by David Koresh, born Vernon Howell in 1959. Koresh joined the Church of the Seventh Day Adventists, but was expelled due to his radical views. Among these views were the fact he was a messiah and all women were his spiritual wives. Wielding a guitar, David Koresh went on to form the Branch Davidians, who believed the end of the world was near and Koresh spoke the word of God. They located to Waco, Texas and began to amass an armory of weapons. The combination of arming themselves in their Waco compound and Koreshs own scandalous sexual practices, including sleeping with other church members wives and marrying underage girls, brought an unwelcome spotlight on the Branch Davidians. This culminated in a March 1993 botched raid by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, which ended with 4 ATF agents and 6 Branch Davidians dead (and Koresh wounded). A 51-day siege of the compound ensued, a siege which was covered 24/7 by CNN and other news agencies.

Every day, the media reported how much money the raid was costing the government, while pressure mounted on new Attorney General Janet Reno to be strong and decisive. Finally, tanks were used to inject tear gas into the sides of building in the compound. Soon, flames began to erupt throughout the compound. In the end, 77 Branch Davidians died in the fire. Among those were 20 children. Gun advocates took a dim view of the Feds seizing weapons, while the American public was appalled at how the Clinton Administration handled the events. Two years later to the date of the deaths, Timothy McVeigh (not a Branch Davidian) bombed the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City, supposedly as payback for the raid.

2. The Manson Family

Charles Manson founded a cult called The Family in San Francisco in 1967. The Manson Family is one of the rare cases of a non-religious cult, though Mansons beliefs at times involved Scientology, Satanism, and other esoteric beliefs. Manson prophecied that America would soon have a race war he named Helter Skelter, after a Beatles song. This war would be won by the African Americans, but they would soon turn to whites for leadership. Charles Manson and his cult would hide out during the war, emerging afterward to lead the victors.

To help instigate the race war, Manson ordered killings in the nearby area as a frame job for African-Americans. Nine people were murdered, including coffee heiress Abigail Folger and actress Sharon Tate, the pregnant wife of Hollywood director Roman Polanski. The brutal stabbings and the cryptic messages written in blood (Rise, Death to Pigs, Helter Skelter) horrified Americans, so the murders became a national sensation. Charles Manson was convicted and sentenced to death, but California banned the death penalty, so hes lived decades in prison.

3. Heavens Gate

Heavens Gate made the headlines in March of 1997 when 39 members of the cult killed themselves, in hopes of reaching a spaceship which was following in the wake the newly-discovered Hale-Bopp Comet. The investigations that followed confirmed that Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Nettles were the founders of Heavens Gate. Applewhite had a near-death experience in the early 1970s and claimed to have had a vision. Bonnie Nettles was his nurse at the time. They became convinced they were The Two mentioned in The Book of Revelation 11:3 and began to attract followers. The entire group committed suicide by taking cyanide and arsenic, phenobarbital mixed with pineapple juice, and finally vodka. All were dressed in similar black attire and tennis shoes, with the armband patches that said Heavens Gate Away Team.

4. Peoples Temple

Jim Jones is the most infamous cult leader in American history. Jim Jones had certain Pentecostal beliefs, but his preaching attracted many African-Americans from the 1950s to the 1970s, mainly because he had progressive views on racial equality. Jim Joness cult, Peoples Temple, first relocated to Utah, because he believed this would give the cult the best chance of surviving a nuclear war. By the 1970s, he had denominations in Los Angeles and San Francisco, and Jim Jones actually had a certain amount of political clout.

In 1977, the New West Magazine decided to publish an expose of Jim Jones and his cult. Jones chose to relocate his congregation to The Commune in Guyana, a socialist country in South America. When U.S. Congressman Leo Ryan flew to Guyana to meet with Jim Jones. Joness people eventually shot and killed Representative Ryan. Knowing justice would soon arrive from U.S. authorities, Jim Jones decided to go out in the most dramatic fashion possible, with mass suicide. Over 900 members of the Peoples Temple drank poison mixed with Flavor Aid, though some might have drunk the punch at the point of a gun.

We drink the same kool-aid over here, the way it's made is just different.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Very cisgendered, white male full of privilege kinda post...with a touch of SJW....

"Islam is more like a cancer"....did the Hitch ever write like this????

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

We drink the same kool-aid over here, the way it's made is just different.

as you mentioned jim jones, i'm not touching that kool aid.....

[smilesammich 10,727]

“God save us from religion.”

― David Eddings

as you mentioned jim jones, i'm not touching that kool aid.....

jim jones and the people's temple, the most fascinating horror 'story' ever.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

as you mentioned jim jones, i'm not touching that kool aid.....

Hahahahahaha

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Very cisgendered, white male full of privilege kinda post...with a touch of SJW....

"Islam is more like a cancer"....did the Hitch ever write like this????

There are some who believe America's stuff don't stink too

[Expat1 971]

IF it is Sharia, the rape victim would have been put into jail immediately, whipped in the public, stoned to death, honor killing for bringing shame to the family.. etc.

God is Great

[JayJayH 546]

So your argument is because we've made it a law we are better. Ok. I'll take the, however, please tell all the parents of dead women and children in America it's ok because no one yelled Allah while raping, beating or killing them.

3 women die a day due to domestic violence.

350,000 children and counting when it comes to sex trafficking.

Ow, let's not talk about born again Jesuses and Christian sects in Texas, you know, like the one they removed 32 kids from and the kids had kids and were married off to men in their 60s.

Here's a small taste of American christian cults

persecution. With that in mind, here are the most famous and infamous cults in American history.

1. Branch Davidians

[...]

We drink the same kool-aid over here, the way it's made is just different.

I haven't been on this forum in a month, but I always like the debates here so I'm replying even though it's a month later.

"however, please tell all the parents of dead women and children in America it's ok because no one yelled Allah while raping, beating or killing them."

- I didn't say that. But suggesting we have a rape epidemic equal to that of the Congo or a general view of women equal to that of much of the Islamic world is not true either.

Put it this way, a murder in Vermont is every bit as much a murder as one that occurs in Chicago. But realistically, if you talk about murder rates in America, you'll get nowhere if you keep making the claim that Burlington, VT and Chicago, IL are equally bad. Or that religious radicalism is equally widespread in Christian and Islamic communities.

I'm in no way saying we haven't had crazy Christian cults in the U.S., Europe, even in Africa. Heck, even Joseph Kony proclaims himself to be a Christian. Some Jewish settlers on the West Bank are no better than the Palestinians who blow themselves up on Israeli buses and various Hindu nationalists in India don't exactly have clean records. Christianity has one of the most barbaric, brutal histories out of any religion.

The reason I often single out Islam is because crazy cults within the Islamic world aren't just limited to sects of hundreds or a couple thousand brainwashed individuals who live in compounds, try to self-segregate from society or begin a precursor to the apocalypse etc. Jihadist groups and networks are far larger, far more organized and enjoy far more popular support in the Islamic world than the Branch-Davidians, the Mason family, the Westboro Baptist church or Joseph Kony could ever dream of. But talking about ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Qaida, the Taliban etc etc etc, as if they were the only crazies is like when liberals almost convince themselves that Ted Cruz is sane because he's standing next to the Donald.

Some form of crazy cult status in the majority of Middle Eastern countries is systematized, it's present in majorities of populations and even in government. What's crazy cult status? When significant portions of the population of a country believes in chopping the heads off apostates, I consider it religious fanaticism. When significant portions of adherents believe in the death penalty for homosexuals, stoning of women, death for blasphemy and all the other good things that come with Sharia - That's cult status.

When the 1,400 year old texts that lay the foundation for Sharia are actually implemented as law, whether formal or informal, that's systematized religious fanaticism on a scope and scale we just don't see anywhere else. And we're not talking fringe societies. We're talking virtually every major Muslim-majority society - Including some in Europe.

I love poking fun at Answers in Genesis, and trust me, every time a local school board tries to put Biblical creationism into school science book, I cringe.

I also praise myself lucky to live in a secular, liberal democracy where our everyday religious nutjobs are more concerned with gay marriage than gay death. I also praise myself lucky to live in a country where our real religious wackos are either dead, in prison or making money in the netherworlds of televangelism rather than being members of the Supreme Court - Or a Sharia court for that matter.

I think we both agree that religious fanaticism occurs happens everywhere.

The scope of it however, does vary from religion to religion.

Very cisgendered, white male full of privilege kinda post...with a touch of SJW....

"Islam is more like a cancer"....did the Hitch ever write like this????

I have about the same amount of cisgendered, white male privilege as an impoverished, unemployed West Virginian ex-coal miner.

I did have a socioeconomic advantage growing up however.

Edited May 25, 2016 by JayJayH

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

I haven't been on this forum in a month, but I always like the debates here so I'm replying even though it's a month later.

"however, please tell all the parents of dead women and children in America it's ok because no one yelled Allah while raping, beating or killing them."

- I didn't say that. But suggesting we have a rape epidemic equal to that of the Congo or a general view of women equal to that of much of the Islamic world is not true either.

Put it this way, a murder in Vermont is every bit as much a murder as one that occurs in Chicago. But realistically, if you talk about murder rates in America, you'll get nowhere if you keep making the claim that Burlington, VT and Chicago, IL are equally bad. Or that religious radicalism is equally widespread in Christian and Islamic communities.

I'm in no way saying we haven't had crazy Christian cults in the U.S., Europe, even in Africa. Heck, even Joseph Kony proclaims himself to be a Christian. Some Jewish settlers on the West Bank are no better than the Palestinians who blow themselves up on Israeli buses and various Hindu nationalists in India don't exactly have clean records. Christianity has one of the most barbaric, brutal histories out of any religion.

The reason I often single out Islam is because crazy cults within the Islamic world aren't just limited to sects of hundreds or a couple thousand brainwashed individuals who live in compounds, try to self-segregate from society or begin a precursor to the apocalypse etc. Jihadist groups and networks are far larger, far more organized and enjoy far more popular support in the Islamic world than the Branch-Davidians, the Mason family, the Westboro Baptist church or Joseph Kony could ever dream of. But talking about ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Qaida, the Taliban etc etc etc, as if they were the only crazies is like when liberals almost convince themselves that Ted Cruz is sane because he's standing next to the Donald.

Some form of crazy cult status in the majority of Middle Eastern countries is systematized, it's present in majorities of populations and even in government. What's crazy cult status? When significant portions of the population of a country believes in chopping the heads off apostates, I consider it religious fanaticism. When significant portions of adherents believe in the death penalty for homosexuals, stoning of women, death for blasphemy and all the other good things that come with Sharia - That's cult status.

When the 1,400 year old texts that lay the foundation for Sharia are actually implemented as law, whether formal or informal, that's systematized religious fanaticism on a scope and scale we just don't see anywhere else. And we're not talking fringe societies. We're talking virtually every major Muslim-majority society - Including some in Europe.

I love poking fun at Answers in Genesis, and trust me, every time a local school board tries to put Biblical creationism into school science book, I cringe.

I also praise myself lucky to live in a secular, liberal democracy where our everyday religious nutjobs are more concerned with gay marriage than gay death. I also praise myself lucky to live in a country where our real religious wackos are either dead, in prison or making money in the netherworlds of televangelism rather than being members of the Supreme Court - Or a Sharia court for that matter.

I think we both agree that religious fanaticism occurs happens everywhere.

The scope of it however, does vary from religion to religion.

I have about the same amount of cisgendered, white male privilege as an impoverished, unemployed West Virginian ex-coal miner.

I did have a socioeconomic advantage growing up however.

What a good post. Right in the money

[Expat1 971]

IF it is Sharia, the rape victim would have been put into jail immediately, whipped in the public, stoned to death, honor killing for bringing shame to the family.. etc.

God is Great

[Janelle2002 3,865]

I haven't been on this forum in a month, but I always like the debates here so I'm replying even though it's a month later.

"however, please tell all the parents of dead women and children in America it's ok because no one yelled Allah while raping, beating or killing them."

- I didn't say that. But suggesting we have a rape epidemic equal to that of the Congo or a general view of women equal to that of much of the Islamic world is not true either.

Put it this way, a murder in Vermont is every bit as much a murder as one that occurs in Chicago. But realistically, if you talk about murder rates in America, you'll get nowhere if you keep making the claim that Burlington, VT and Chicago, IL are equally bad. Or that religious radicalism is equally widespread in Christian and Islamic communities.

I'm in no way saying we haven't had crazy Christian cults in the U.S., Europe, even in Africa. Heck, even Joseph Kony proclaims himself to be a Christian. Some Jewish settlers on the West Bank are no better than the Palestinians who blow themselves up on Israeli buses and various Hindu nationalists in India don't exactly have clean records. Christianity has one of the most barbaric, brutal histories out of any religion.

The reason I often single out Islam is because crazy cults within the Islamic world aren't just limited to sects of hundreds or a couple thousand brainwashed individuals who live in compounds, try to self-segregate from society or begin a precursor to the apocalypse etc. Jihadist groups and networks are far larger, far more organized and enjoy far more popular support in the Islamic world than the Branch-Davidians, the Mason family, the Westboro Baptist church or Joseph Kony could ever dream of. But talking about ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Qaida, the Taliban etc etc etc, as if they were the only crazies is like when liberals almost convince themselves that Ted Cruz is sane because he's standing next to the Donald.

Some form of crazy cult status in the majority of Middle Eastern countries is systematized, it's present in majorities of populations and even in government. What's crazy cult status? When significant portions of the population of a country believes in chopping the heads off apostates, I consider it religious fanaticism. When significant portions of adherents believe in the death penalty for homosexuals, stoning of women, death for blasphemy and all the other good things that come with Sharia - That's cult status.

When the 1,400 year old texts that lay the foundation for Sharia are actually implemented as law, whether formal or informal, that's systematized religious fanaticism on a scope and scale we just don't see anywhere else. And we're not talking fringe societies. We're talking virtually every major Muslim-majority society - Including some in Europe.

I love poking fun at Answers in Genesis, and trust me, every time a local school board tries to put Biblical creationism into school science book, I cringe.

I also praise myself lucky to live in a secular, liberal democracy where our everyday religious nutjobs are more concerned with gay marriage than gay death. I also praise myself lucky to live in a country where our real religious wackos are either dead, in prison or making money in the netherworlds of televangelism rather than being members of the Supreme Court - Or a Sharia court for that matter.

I think we both agree that religious fanaticism occurs happens everywhere.

The scope of it however, does vary from religion to religion.

I have about the same amount of cisgendered, white male privilege as an impoverished, unemployed West Virginian ex-coal miner.

I did have a socioeconomic advantage growing up however.

Yes it took you months to respond to me. No worries. ;-)

I'm going to leave this right here for you

2 Church Pastors Among 32 Arrested in Sting Operation Offering Sex With Teens: Cops

Inside Edition

Deborah Hastings Mon, May 23 12:24 PM PDT

Two Christian pastors were among dozens of people arrested in a sting operation where suspects allegedly sought sex with underage girls, Tennessee officials said.

Jason Kennedy and Zubin Parakh were caught after answering online ads, said Mark Gwyn, director of the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.

Read: Teacher, 37, Kept Journal About Her Sexual Relationship With 14-Year-old Boy: Police

Kennedy, 46, was the childrens pastor at Grace Baptist Church and Parakh, 32, was creative pastor at Life House Church, according to Gwyn. They were among 32 men and women arrested in an anti-trafficking operation, according to a bureau statement.

Kennedy, according to an arrest report obtained by CBS affiliate WLVT-TV, was arrested after agreeing to pay $100 for sex with two girls, one of whom was 15.

"Our work is not finished. We want to make sure there is no safe place to hide for criminals who would victimize the most vulnerable among us. We want anyone answering an ad for sex to think that a TBI agent and a Knoxville Police officer may be on the other end of that line," said Gwyn.

"These are men from our community. They include an engineer, a volunteer firefighter, a landscaper, a student. These are people we work with and live with," he said.

Parakh was arrested after responding to an ad promising sex with underage girls, Gwyn said.

Both were charged with patronizing prostitution and human trafficking, according to the TBI statement.

Kennedy was fired after his arrest, his church said in a statement.

"The actions of the childrens pastor for which he has been arrested were part of his life outside the church, and we have received no questions or concerns related to his conduct within the church or its ministries," Grace Baptist church leaders said.

Read: Teacher Caught Having Sex With 17-Year-Old Student in Cemetery: Cops

A background check was performed when Kennedy was hired more than two years ago, the church said, and turned up no problems. We are praying for his family and will continue to provide the services of our ministry to them, the statement said.

Parakhs name no longer appears on Life Houses website.

Messages left at both churches by InsideEdition.com were not immediately returned Monday.

Parakh is being held in lieu of $100,000 and Kennedy is being held in lieu of $50,000 bail at the Knox County Jail, according to online records. It was not clear whether they had been arraigned.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/2-church-pastors-among-32-192400986.html

Guess we'll pin this on Allah too

[Expat1 971]

Yes it took you months to respond to me. No worries. ;-)

I'm going to leave this right here for you

2 Church Pastors Among 32 Arrested in Sting Operation Offering Sex With Teens: Cops

Inside Edition

Deborah Hastings Mon, May 23 12:24 PM PDT

Two Christian pastors were among dozens of people arrested in a sting operation where suspects allegedly sought sex with underage girls, Tennessee officials said.

Jason Kennedy and Zubin Parakh were caught after answering online ads, said Mark Gwyn, director of the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.

Read: Teacher, 37, Kept Journal About Her Sexual Relationship With 14-Year-old Boy: Police

Kennedy, 46, was the childrens pastor at Grace Baptist Church and Parakh, 32, was creative pastor at Life House Church, according to Gwyn. They were among 32 men and women arrested in an anti-trafficking operation, according to a bureau statement.

Kennedy, according to an arrest report obtained by CBS affiliate WLVT-TV, was arrested after agreeing to pay $100 for sex with two girls, one of whom was 15.

"Our work is not finished. We want to make sure there is no safe place to hide for criminals who would victimize the most vulnerable among us. We want anyone answering an ad for sex to think that a TBI agent and a Knoxville Police officer may be on the other end of that line," said Gwyn.

"These are men from our community. They include an engineer, a volunteer firefighter, a landscaper, a student. These are people we work with and live with," he said.

Parakh was arrested after responding to an ad promising sex with underage girls, Gwyn said.

Both were charged with patronizing prostitution and human trafficking, according to the TBI statement.

Kennedy was fired after his arrest, his church said in a statement.

"The actions of the childrens pastor for which he has been arrested were part of his life outside the church, and we have received no questions or concerns related to his conduct within the church or its ministries," Grace Baptist church leaders said.

Read: Teacher Caught Having Sex With 17-Year-Old Student in Cemetery: Cops

A background check was performed when Kennedy was hired more than two years ago, the church said, and turned up no problems. We are praying for his family and will continue to provide the services of our ministry to them, the statement said.

Parakhs name no longer appears on Life Houses website.

Messages left at both churches by InsideEdition.com were not immediately returned Monday.

Parakh is being held in lieu of $100,000 and Kennedy is being held in lieu of $50,000 bail at the Knox County Jail, according to online records. It was not clear whether they had been arraigned.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/2-church-pastors-among-32-192400986.html

Guess we'll pin this on Allah too

The part where they justified their actions based on christian teachings is missing. Please find and attach to the above post please.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

The part where they justified their actions based on christian teachings is missing. Please find and attach to the above post please.

OR that its an organized world wide network supported by millions

The part where they justified their actions based on christian teachings is missing. Please find and attach to the above post please.

OR that its an organized world wide network supported by millions

[Expat1 971]

OR that its an organized world wide network supported by millions

OR that its an organized world wide network supported by millions

That story would be relevent if the church members had gotten together to lash or stone the victims