Two in three British Muslims would NOT give police terror tip-offs

[OriZ 3,157]

What's wrong with "the wife must always obey her husband". Don't let my wife know I wrote this. Lol.

lol that actually reminds me, my wife gets asked alot, having spent 4 years with me in Israel, if she has/had to be subservient to me. She always tells them not a chance in hell but she's been asked that by friends, family and FB friends while being there as well as after we came here. There is quite a surprising amount of ignorance and the first connotation for people when Israel is brought up is that it's in the middle east so hence it must be like most middle eastern countries. Hell she's been asked if she had to wear a hijab countless times, if she had running water or electricity or had to live in a hut...and get this, was even asked by someone ONLINE...if she has INTERNET.

Edited April 16, 2016 by OriZ

[Jacque67 7,328]

lol that actually reminds me, my wife gets asked alot, having spent 4 years with me in Israel, if she has/had to be subservient to me. She always tells them not a chance in hell but she's been asked that by friends, family and FB friends while being there as well as after we came here. There is quite a surprising amount of ignorance and the first connotation for people when Israel is brought up is that it's in the middle east so hence it must be like most middle eastern countries. Hell she's been asked if she had to wear a hijab countless times, if she had running water or electricity or had to live in a hut...and get this, was even asked by someone ONLINE...if she has INTERNET.

Ahhh but does she wear a wig?

[OriZ 3,157]

Ahhh but does she wear a wig?

Nope. Has completely awesome hair that receives tons of compliments and it's ALL HERS.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Nope. Has completely awesome hair that receives tons of compliments and it's ALL HERS.

Ha ha. Still get the old avatar over here btw.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Nope. Has completely awesome hair that receives tons of compliments and it's ALL HERS.

Something against women who wear other people's hair?

[Jacque67 7,328]

Something against women who wear other people's hair?

It's a Jewish thing...

[Janelle2002 3,865]

It's a Jewish thing...

But Jewish things aren't important to some once they "assimilate" into American culture

[Jacque67 7,328]

But Jewish things aren't important to some once they "assimilate" into American culture

Ralph Lauren???

[Jacque67 7,328]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-israel.html?ref=todayspaper

Bernie and Israel

[Janelle2002 3,865]

It was the sort of question Does Israel have a right to defend itself as it sees fit? that had often caused candidates, especially those with designs on winning a primary in New York, to produce paeans to the strength of the Israeli-American relationship and a stream of pro-Israel orthodoxy.

But Senator Bernie Sanders dug in.

There comes a time when if we pursue justice and peace, we are going to have to say that Netanyahu is not right all of the time, Mr. Sanders said, referring to the Israeli prime minister, amid cheers from the crowd at Thursdays Democratic debate in Brooklyn. He added: All that I am saying is we cannot continue to be one-sided. There are two sides to the issue.

Jewish Democrats, like the rest of the party, have been struggling for years over the appropriate level of criticism when it comes to Israels policies in the occupied West Bank and Gaza. But that debate burst onto a big national stage this week thanks to Mr. Sanders, the most successful Jewish presidential candidate in history.

Mr. Sanderss comments, in the de facto capital of Jewish American politics, buoyed the liberal and increasingly vocal Democrats who believe that a frank discussion within the party has been muzzled by an older, more conservative Jewish leadership that is suspicious of criticism of Israel.

Jeremy Ben-Ami, the president of J Street, a progressive pro-Israel lobbying group whose more critical view of the Israeli government has gained influence on Capitol Hill, said Mr. Sanderss comments were very different from the stale talking points that have dominated those types of discussions before and contributed to a meaningful redefinition of what it means to be pro-Israel.

But the comments, as measured as they were striking, worried more traditionally pro-Israel Jewish Democrats and Jewish organizations trying desperately to maintain bipartisan support for the Israeli government but watching it slowly being chipped away.

I thought that Bernie Sanderss comments were disgraceful and reprehensible, and I thought he was just over the top, said Eliot Engel, a Jewish congressman from the Bronx who supports Hillary Clinton. He said that Mr. Sanderss comments were irresponsible, giving radical left-wing elements in the party more license to attack Israel.

Maybe he feels like he has to bend over backwards because hes Jewish? Mr. Engel said, adding, It bothers me a great deal.

Even before the debate, unease over Israeli policies within the Democratic Party was rising.

At the 2012 Democratic National Convention, delegates lustily booed officials who reinstated in the party platform a recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, at odds with the United States official position that the citys status must be negotiated between Israelis and Palestinians.

Protesting Israels policies and advocating boycotts to pressure its government are practically electives for liberal college students furious about the growth of Israeli settlements in the West Bank. In Washington, relations between President Obama and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are acrid, and last year more than 50 members of the Democratic caucus boycotted Mr. Netanyahus speech to Congress in which he criticized Mr. Obamas nuclear deal with Iran.

Mr. Sanderss response on Thursday was to a question about his past statement that Israel had used disproportionate force in responding to Hamass rocket attacks from Gaza into Israeli towns. One of the moderators, Wolf Blitzer of CNN, asked whether Israel had a right to defend itself.

Mr. Sanders said Israel had every right in the world to destroy terrorism.

But, he said, we had in the Gaza area not a very large area some 10,000 civilians who were wounded and some 1,500 who were killed.

The applause and cheers that accompanied Mr. Sanderss answers someone yelled Free Palestine! might have been the most vocal signs yet of shifts in the Democratic Party.

Slide Show | On the Trail: The Week of April 10 Candidates traversed New York state and beyond, holding rallies and holding babies.

A Pew Research Center poll in 2014 about violence in Gaza found that Americans under 30 were more likely to blame Israel than to blame Hamas, though half blamed both or did not have an opinion. African-Americans and Hispanics also blamed Israel more often than Hamas.

Those surveyed who were over 30 found Hamas more responsible, and the older the respondents were, the less they blamed Israel.

The roar in the crowd was telling, said Peter Beinart, a leading voice in the liberal Zionist movement.

A Democratic Party dominated by progressive millennials, African-Americans and Latinos will gradually defect more and more from the Aipac-Bibi line, he added, referring to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and to Mr. Netanyahu by his nickname.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

It was the sort of question Does Israel have a right to defend itself as it sees fit? that had often caused candidates, especially those with designs on winning a primary in New York, to produce paeans to the strength of the Israeli-American relationship and a stream of pro-Israel orthodoxy.

But Senator Bernie Sanders dug in.

There comes a time when if we pursue justice and peace, we are going to have to say that Netanyahu is not right all of the time, Mr. Sanders said, referring to the Israeli prime minister, amid cheers from the crowd at Thursdays Democratic debate in Brooklyn. He added: All that I am saying is we cannot continue to be one-sided. There are two sides to the issue.

Jewish Democrats, like the rest of the party, have been struggling for years over the appropriate level of criticism when it comes to Israels policies in the occupied West Bank and Gaza. But that debate burst onto a big national stage this week thanks to Mr. Sanders, the most successful Jewish presidential candidate in history.

Mr. Sanderss comments, in the de facto capital of Jewish American politics, buoyed the liberal and increasingly vocal Democrats who believe that a frank discussion within the party has been muzzled by an older, more conservative Jewish leadership that is suspicious of criticism of Israel.

Jeremy Ben-Ami, the president of J Street, a progressive pro-Israel lobbying group whose more critical view of the Israeli government has gained influence on Capitol Hill, said Mr. Sanderss comments were very different from the stale talking points that have dominated those types of discussions before and contributed to a meaningful redefinition of what it means to be pro-Israel.

But the comments, as measured as they were striking, worried more traditionally pro-Israel Jewish Democrats and Jewish organizations trying desperately to maintain bipartisan support for the Israeli government but watching it slowly being chipped away.

I thought that Bernie Sanderss comments were disgraceful and reprehensible, and I thought he was just over the top, said Eliot Engel, a Jewish congressman from the Bronx who supports Hillary Clinton. He said that Mr. Sanderss comments were irresponsible, giving radical left-wing elements in the party more license to attack Israel.

Maybe he feels like he has to bend over backwards because hes Jewish? Mr. Engel said, adding, It bothers me a great deal.

Even before the debate, unease over Israeli policies within the Democratic Party was rising.

At the 2012 Democratic National Convention, delegates lustily booed officials who reinstated in the party platform a recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, at odds with the United States official position that the citys status must be negotiated between Israelis and Palestinians.

Protesting Israels policies and advocating boycotts to pressure its government are practically electives for liberal college students furious about the growth of Israeli settlements in the West Bank. In Washington, relations between President Obama and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are acrid, and last year more than 50 members of the Democratic caucus boycotted Mr. Netanyahus speech to Congress in which he criticized Mr. Obamas nuclear deal with Iran.

Mr. Sanderss response on Thursday was to a question about his past statement that Israel had used disproportionate force in responding to Hamass rocket attacks from Gaza into Israeli towns. One of the moderators, Wolf Blitzer of CNN, asked whether Israel had a right to defend itself.

Mr. Sanders said Israel had every right in the world to destroy terrorism.

But, he said, we had in the Gaza area not a very large area some 10,000 civilians who were wounded and some 1,500 who were killed.

The applause and cheers that accompanied Mr. Sanderss answers someone yelled Free Palestine! might have been the most vocal signs yet of shifts in the Democratic Party.

Slide Show | On the Trail: The Week of April 10 Candidates traversed New York state and beyond, holding rallies and holding babies.

A Pew Research Center poll in 2014 about violence in Gaza found that Americans under 30 were more likely to blame Israel than to blame Hamas, though half blamed both or did not have an opinion. African-Americans and Hispanics also blamed Israel more often than Hamas.

Those surveyed who were over 30 found Hamas more responsible, and the older the respondents were, the less they blamed Israel.

The roar in the crowd was telling, said Peter Beinart, a leading voice in the liberal Zionist movement.

A Democratic Party dominated by progressive millennials, African-Americans and Latinos will gradually defect more and more from the Aipac-Bibi line, he added, referring to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and to Mr. Netanyahu by his nickname.

[OriZ 3,157]

Another issue Bernie knows nothing about. So uninformed...yet running for President...

[ExPatty 502]

Another issue Bernie knows nothing about. So uninformed...yet running for President...

I think there is a reason why a guy in congress for so long has so few friends. I'd still rather see bernie elected than hillary in part because I abhor her and in part because he would be extremely ineffective (i.e. ruin little) and in part because his heart is better than most there (I think).

In any case his campaign is over two days from now. He'll get beaten to death in new york and then he'll be completely out of runway.