Need Advice ASAP - USA tourist visa

[samju 0]

Here is the summary of my situation;

Me and my husband live in the US . We have a green card. We want to invite my sister, her daughter, her son, my father and brother here for one month.

All of them are self sponsoring the trip.

1) My Father - Age 70, retired, has pension, and investments made in India. He had applied for a visitor visa in 2012 which got rejected. He again applied in 6 months in the same year but got rejected again.For the previous interviews he did not have sufficient documents to show strong ties back in India.The financial situation has changed significantly now and he has all the strong supporting documents.
(My mom passed away in 2010)

2) My Brother - Age 45, single, has a stable job. Travelled to Australia in the year 2000 for further studies but had to return due to family emergency and did not get to complete the course. Applied for F1 visa for canada but got rejected. Applied for US tourist visa in 2012 but got rejected as well. For the previous interviews he did not have sufficient Financial documents to show strong ties back in India.The financial situation has changed significantly now and he has all the strong supporting documents.

3) My Sister - Age 40. Travelled to US on visitor visa in 2003. She had a 12 year visa which expired last year. Her husband has a valid US visitor visa.

4) My sisters daughter - Age 15, just finished her 10th exam. She had travelled to US in 2003. Had a US visitor visa for 5 years. Which has expired.

5) My Sisters son - Age 11, Has not had a visitor visa anytime.

My Questions
1) Should they all go in a group for the visa interview? ( My dad and brother have a 2 time visa rejected record) If my dad and brother go with my sister will it be a strong case?
2) Should my dad only go with my sister and her kids for the visa interview?
3) Should my dad and brother go separately for the interview?

Thankyou.

[almost_umrican 54]

Looks convincing, what nationalities are the relatives ?

[Boiler 46,094]

Looks convincing, what nationalities are the relatives ?

Indian?

[samju 0]

Yes Indian nationality.

[almost_umrican 54]

Yes Indian nationality.

There cannot ever be a definitive answer for your question. The books says you will get a B2 if you will meet certain conditions (enough ties, bindings to the native country, finances etc). i have no way to prove this but believe me the nationality of the applicant is prime. the US embassies bend the rules from the book at their will and i have several experiences to argue about. India is considered a high fraud country by US missions abroad and i am sure you are well aware of that (i come from a high fraud country as well btw). So there is no such thing the family have a strong case that promise them B2. yeah looks like they will able to fulfill the minimum conditions to get one. here is my advice (at least the most i can do) , the case looks convincing.they are going to be suspicious about your young brother and sister and concurrently the kids will go on back foot as the kids will not go just with their grand parent leaving the parents behind on the other hand let me tell you i have seen very similar cases getting approved for no reason whatsoever. Bottomline - they bend the rule, why ? because they can why ? they are forced to by the fraudulent means adapted by perspective applicants. the local US embassies are very well aware of all these means. to conclude, i am not questioning your guy's intentions and desires here. just telling you what is out there.Have them go in a group not separately. good luck .

Edited April 5, 2016 by almost_umrican

[Pitaya 2,577]

Your family will have to prove to the satisfaction of the US consular official (CO) at the interviewing US embassy/consulate, that they have significant ties to India such that they would return to India after their US visit is completed. Such ties could include, property, house ownership, current stable employment, etc. Each visitor visa applicant is presumed to have immigration intent, and must prove that they are not trying to immigrate to the US. A letter from a doctor, any documents from you, or any other invitation-type letter would likely have no positive effect on the visitor visa approval. The case could be made that if the whole family is applying for visitor visas, the interviewing CO could conclude that the family is trying to immigrate to the US, en mass.....

Good luck.

Edited April 5, 2016 by Pitaya

[KierenHby 899]

With those 3 questions.. are you looking for the best combination(s) to be 'assured' visas for everyone?

[HFM181818 750]

Here is the summary of my situation;

Me and my husband live in the US . We have a green card. We want to invite my sister, her daughter, her son, my father and brother here for one month.

All of them are self sponsoring the trip.

1) My Father - Age 70, retired, has pension, and investments made in India. He had applied for a visitor visa in 2012 which got rejected. He again applied in 6 months in the same year but got rejected again.For the previous interviews he did not have sufficient documents to show strong ties back in India.The financial situation has changed significantly now and he has all the strong supporting documents.

(My mom passed away in 2010)

2) My Brother - Age 45, single, has a stable job. Travelled to Australia in the year 2000 for further studies but had to return due to family emergency and did not get to complete the course. Applied for F1 visa for canada but got rejected. Applied for US tourist visa in 2012 but got rejected as well. For the previous interviews he did not have sufficient Financial documents to show strong ties back in India.The financial situation has changed significantly now and he has all the strong supporting documents.

3) My Sister - Age 40. Travelled to US on visitor visa in 2003. She had a 12 year visa which expired last year. Her husband has a valid US visitor visa.

4) My sisters daughter - Age 15, just finished her 10th exam. She had travelled to US in 2003. Had a US visitor visa for 5 years. Which has expired.

5) My Sisters son - Age 11, Has not had a visitor visa anytime.

My Questions

1) Should they all go in a group for the visa interview? ( My dad and brother have a 2 time visa rejected record) If my dad and brother go with my sister will it be a strong case? NO - each applicant must overcome 214b by themselves (unless a minor)

2) Should my dad only go with my sister and her kids for the visa interview? NO...go on your own

3) Should my dad and brother go separately for the interview? YES

Adult children are on their own...previous visa holders who have not abused the privilege are virtual shoe-ins....previously rejected applicants will get more scrutiny...if the CO thinks there is funny games being played with who goes with who during an interview, everyone will get denied....(no time for nonsense)...if you think they can 'game the system', by all means, tell them to take their best shot...

my opinion: Sis and daughters OK

brother - 50-50

father 60-40

Thankyou.

[samju 0]

Yes I am looking for the best combination for an assured visa for everyone.

Thanks

[Anh map 2,098]

There is no "way" to improve the chances. The truth is the truth. Everyone traveling together for holiday is a typical thing. If the interviewing officer believes it is for a different reason (relocation) then it's likely that some visas won't be granted.

Dad's story cuts both ways, finances improved but without a spouse to return home to there is more reason to stay in the US with the large group of family members.

Ultimately all a person can do is have the interview and not try to create a story. Just tell the truth because that never changes no matter how many times the CO rephrases the question.

[Cathi 5,784]

there is no such thing as "inviting" or an "invitation letter" and any sort of promise letter to fund a trip to get relatives here with a visitor visa. In fact doing so will work against them. I have no idea where people get these idea. They must apply and be approved on their own merits, and their own merits ALONE. They must prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they will return home by proving strong ties. Period. End of story.

Edited April 6, 2016 by mimolicious

[Bzegurl 41]

Your sister and her kids have a better chance of getting a visa. Have your sister and her husband take the kids in and herself and simple say they are going to visit you. Good luck

[Opalpopal 2]

How can your brother have a stable job, but will allow him to take a whole month off at once???

[MacUK 983]

There cannot ever be a definitive answer for your question. The books says you will get a B2 if you will meet certain conditions (enough ties, bindings to the native country, finances etc). i have no way to prove this but believe me the nationality of the applicant is prime. the US embassies bend the rules from the book at their will and i have several experiences to argue about. India is considered a high fraud country by US missions abroad and i am sure you are well aware of that (i come from a high fraud country as well btw). So there is no such thing the family have a strong case that promise them B2. yeah looks like they will able to fulfill the minimum conditions to get one. here is my advice (at least the most i can do) , the case looks convincing.they are going to be suspicious about your young brother and sister and concurrently the kids will go on back foot as the kids will not go just with their grand parent leaving the parents behind on the other hand let me tell you i have seen very similar cases getting approved for no reason whatsoever. Bottomline - they bend the rule, why ? because they can why ? they are forced to by the fraudulent means adapted by perspective applicants. the local US embassies are very well aware of all these means. to conclude, i am not questioning your guy's intentions and desires here. just telling you what is out there.Have them go in a group not separately. good luck .

Exactly what rules are the embassies 'bending'?

They are following the LAW, every applicant is presumed to have immigrant intent.

Edited April 6, 2016 by MacUK

[almost_umrican 54]

Exactly what rules are the embassies 'bending'?

They are following the LAW, every applicant is presumed to have immigrant intent.

Like i mentioned there is no way to prove that, like there is no way to prove if job candidate A with the same profile as B is discriminated against. you probably did not read the comment in a good taste mister. are you from a third world country ? i assume you are not. that part of system is something you will never understand unless you lived in the system and i am saying this all to you in a good taste. let me give you an example which is hypothetical - a visa officer does not grant you a Non immigrant visa in spite of you fulfilling all the conditions in the book (great job, loads of money, lot of ties to the country) just because he did not feel like it at that time (you don't believe that, well i do). on the other hand family gets one with average/fake/spurious documents. what would you say about that ? they were able to convince the officer BS, off course they were. its the sole discretion of the officer at that time especially when applicants are from allegedly fraudulent countries.they bend rules because applicants make them bend the rules. they don't go by the book because they know what the real intent of majority of applicants for Non immigration visas from poor countries and this debacle the people with right intent sometime pays the price. see, like i said, its impossible to prove this but you know its there and i am not blaming the officers here.