Politics Donald Trump, Abortion Foe, Eyes ‘Punishment’ for Women, Then Recants

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Donald Trump, Abortion Foe, Eyes Punishment for Women, Then Recants

Donald J. Trump at a campaign event Wednesday in Appleton, Wis.

ERIC THAYER FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES

By MATT FLEGENHEIMER and MAGGIE HABERMAN

MARCH 30, 2016

Donald J. Trump said on Wednesday that women who seek abortions should be subject to some form of punishment if the procedure is banned in the United States, further elevating Republican concerns that his explosive remarks about women could doom the party in the fall.

The comment, which Mr. Trump later recanted, attracted instant, bipartisan criticism the latest in a series of high-profile episodes that have shined a light on Mr. Trumps feeble approval ratings among women nationally.

In this case, Mr. Trump also ran afoul of conservative doctrine, with opponents of abortion rights immediately castigating him for suggesting that those who receive abortions and not merely those who perform them should be punished if the practice is outlawed.

The statement came as Mr. Trump appeared at a town-hall-style forum with Chris Matthews of MSNBC, recorded for broadcast on Wednesday night. Mr. Matthews pressed Mr. Trump, who once supported abortion rights, on his calls to ban the procedure, asking how he might enforce such a restriction.

You go back to a position like they had where they would perhaps go to illegal places, Mr. Trump said, after initially deflecting questions. But you have to ban it.

He added, after a bit more prodding, There has to be some form of punishment.

Hours later, Mr. Trump recanted his remarks, essentially in full, a rare and remarkable shift for a candidate who proudly extols his unwillingness to apologize or bow to political correctness.

If abortion were disallowed, he said in a statement, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman.

The woman is a victim in this case, as is the life in her womb, he continued.

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[da doufu 5]

If Abortion became illegal. Wouldn't there be some kind of punishment to doing it ?

[Janelle2002 3,865]

If Abortion became illegal. Wouldn't there be some kind of punishment to doing it ?

"In this case, Mr. Trump also ran afoul of conservative doctrine, with opponents of abortion rights immediately castigating him for suggesting that those who receive abortions and not merely those who perform them should be punished if the practice is outlawed."

Reading is fundamental....

[smilesammich 10,727]

If Abortion became illegal. Wouldn't there be some kind of punishment to doing it ?

stoning!!!!!

[Transborderwife 4,666]

If Abortion became illegal. Wouldn't there be some kind of punishment to doing it ?

For the abortionist perhaps. For the recipient no. Kind of like buying counterfeit goods.

[da doufu 5]

stoning!!!!!

That's very religious of you.

[da doufu 5]

I did read it. Can you name me something that is illegal and doesn't have a punishment attached ?

"In this case, Mr. Trump also ran afoul of conservative doctrine, with opponents of abortion rights immediately castigating him for suggesting that those who receive abortions and not merely those who perform them should be punished if the practice is outlawed."



Reading is fundamental....

[Janelle2002 3,865]

I did read it. Can you name me something that is illegal and doesn't have a punishment attached ?

Why punish only one participant? Because she's a woman?

[smilesammich 10,727]

That's very religious of you.

just trying to make america great again, biblical even!

[da doufu 5]

I would punish both. Possible fines. Maybe worse for the one holding the coat hanger.

What are your thoughts on FGM? Who should be punished ?

Why punish only one participant? Because she's a woman?

[Janelle2002 3,865]

I would punish both. Possible fines. Maybe worse for the one holding the coat hanger.

What are your thoughts on FGM? Who should be punished ?

Did Trump bring up fgm? It's funny how topics about American issues derail to other country's issues.

Talk about the topic at hand

[ready4ONE 5,400]

I would punish both. Possible fines. Maybe worse for the one holding the coat hanger.

What are your thoughts on FGM? Who should be punished ?

I think you're losing the argument equating legal and safe abortion with FGM, but if you truly feel abortion should be illegal and therefore a punishable offense like Donald Drumf you are in the minority of the minority and very much on the wrong side of history.

[da doufu 5]

You guys are not listening. All I said was that if something is made illegal it would have to have a punishment attached to it, and that's all Trump was saying as well. A crime no matter what it is has to have a punishment attached to it.

You are also interpreting that I am anti abortion and I am not. If my 1st wife didn't get one I may have been on the hook for child support for a kid that wasn't mine.

FGM is similar in that it is the mutilation of a child. Should it be punished ?

[Jacque67 7,328]

Mutilation does not equal abortion. False premise .

[smilesammich 10,727]

FGM is similar in that it is the mutilation of a child.

it's not about listening, it's about not accepting the comparison of fgm and abortion. invalid.

Mutilation does not equal abortion. False premise .

oops, yeah what jacque said.