Girl, 15, Is Groped and Pepper Sprayed Outside Trump Event

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

i know when i was 15, i pretty much went where i wanted. it was more an issue of if i told my parents where i was going or not.

I was the same way pretty much except for if I told them where I was going and they had a concern about it. Then I could not go even if I pleaded my case, and usually it didn't work. But there is a parenting fail at some point in this if you let a teenager protest at rally which you know brings out the crazies on both sides.

[Transborderwife 4,666]

I wouldn't be surprised if one or both were possibly professional protestors

[smilesammich 10,727]

I was the same way pretty much except for if I told them where I was going and they had a concern about it. Then I could not go even if I pleaded my case, and usually it didn't work. But there is a parenting fail at some point in this if you let a teenager protest at rally which you know brings out the crazies on both sides.

i certainly don't think there is anything wrong with kids going to protests if they feel strongly about something, the future is theirs after all. i would just want to be there as well, crowds are unpredictable.

[Transborderwife 4,666]

i certainly don't think there is anything wrong with kids going to protests if they feel strongly about something, the future is theirs after all. i would just want to be there as well, crowds are unpredictable.

If a parent wants to take their child then ok. That's their choice and they are there if anything like this happens. I liken that to taking young children pg-13 or R movie

[Teddy B 17,252]

Another thing that really bothers me is that people decide to start arguing with the protesters. Just ignore them.

I remember during the whole Occupy Wall Street thing. A group decided to protest here. I was downtown when they went marching by chanting their slogans about whatever. We just all watched them go by and then went on about our business.

If you're at a Trump rally and people are standing outside protesting, just walk by and go to the rally. Ignore them. And if the protesters get inside, just let them be escorted out by security. Trump will throw a few insults at them as they leave and it will all be over. There's no need to start punching someone as their being taken out.

I just don't get any of this. What is all the anger about?

Yeah, I can agree with most of that. But the guy who pepper sprayed her was still a tool.

I doubt the protesters really know what all the anger is about either. This tends to happen with large crowds, they feed off of each other and get all wound up and then you've got a tinder box just waiting to be set on fire. At that point the smallest things can set it off. I personally hate public protests, I've never seen anything really good come from them, but sure have seen plenty of them go bad.

Edited March 31, 2016 by Teddy B

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

Another thing that really bothers me is that people decide to start arguing with the protesters. Just ignore them.

I remember during the whole Occupy Wall Street thing. A group decided to protest here. I was downtown when they went marching by chanting their slogans about whatever. We just all watched them go by and then went on about our business.

If you're at a Trump rally and people are standing outside protesting, just walk by and go to the rally. Ignore them. And if the protesters get inside, just let them be escorted out by security. Trump will throw a few insults at them as they leave and it will all be over. There's no need to start punching someone as their being taken out.

I just don't get any of this. What is all the anger about?

Yeah, I can agree with most of that. But the guy who pepper sprayed her was still a tool.

I totally agree with that on all aspects of it. If you don't agree with them then just let them do what they do and it will eventually burn itself out. If you feed the flames on both sides then it is just asking for trouble.

The only thing I see contradictory to this is that a number of Anti-Trump protesters have been blocking people from getting into some rallies, and that to me is uncalled for.You have a right to protest, but you do not have a right to impede me from going to a rally.

There is a significant amount of anger on both sides of the aisle. That is because there are two fundamentally different views of how the country should be run as a whole. A number of the protesters think that Donald Trump is racist and his policies are racist. But he has never said he wanted to discourage anyone from coming to this country by race at all. While the other side believes that all of our problems will be solved with open borders. It doesn't make sense to me at all.

Yeah that guy was a tool who was looking to antagonize the crowd.

[smilesammich 10,727]

If a parent wants to take their child then ok. That's their choice and they are there if anything like this happens. I liken that to taking young children pg-13 or R movie

15 is a sketchy age..

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

I wouldn't be surprised if one or both were possibly professional protestors

I have that heard that as well. Then I saw this article with a screen shot of the actual ad for them.

http://watchdog.org/260776/trump-minimum-wage-protest/

http://watchdog.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2016/03/Craigs-list-ad.jpg

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

yep, just dying for the opportunity to use it.

Opportunity to be a tool.

[eieio 1,594]

Police are saying this "lady" is actually 19.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

I really don't think this is the full story at all. I think that she got up into that guy's face he put his hands up, and that's when she was like he touched me and touched breast. If you notice in the video how she reacts to other women touching her trying to tell her to help her calm down and she goes off by saying "Don't fu*king touch me". I think that is the most likely scenario by and large, if the man actually "groped" her then yes charge him. But it still does not give someone the right to punch someone and that is where she messed up and got pepper sprayed for it.

Around 1:24 is paper and hand hits her booby more than once. That is unwanted physical contact. He don't have to grip it.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

While it appears there was just accidental contact, I'm still a little confused after these two posts. If she was groped, then she has the right to defend herself or not? And, how much touching has to be involved before the is allowed to defend herself?

I don't think I can in any way accept the guy pepper spraying her. It's not like she was a real threat to anybody. I guess she's lucky that the person only had pepper spray instead of a handgun.

Again unwanted physical contact us not acceptable in any way. He purposely kept hitting her #######. Look at the video again around 1:24

[Teddy B 17,252]

Again unwanted physical contact us not acceptable in any way. He purposely kept hitting her #######. Look at the video again around 1:24

It does look like she pushed forward into his hand. Either way, I don't think the guy with the papers assaulted her and her punch was unwarranted. The guy with the pepper spray needs a good beaten.

[Transborderwife 4,666]

Interesting...the user removed the video

[Janelle2002 3,865]

It does look like she pushed forward into his hand. Either way, I don't think the guy with the papers assaulted her and her punch was unwarranted. The guy with the pepper spray needs a good beaten.

Ok

Interesting...the user removed the video

Any theories?