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I think I kind of get it , however it appears to have gone to extremes in the US...

I think the problem lies in when someone tries to present themselves as belonging to a different culture than the one they belong to through fashion, and then hope to be accepted by that other culture. It is a dishonest quick step, and draws criticism from the other/ alien culture

Somebody mentioned an example of wearing an Indian feather headdress which certainly "feels" like a valid example of crossing the line into cultural appropriation (or misappropriation - someone mentioned that, I like that word better). I think it's going to be a hard to come up with a good definition.

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To elaborate, at 3 in the morning here-lol, sometimes I see western people here trying to go native,,, wearing yukata in summer etc, and saying " so desu ne" to anything a Japanese person may say to them....the Japanese people just find such people an amusing distraction, but their western peers are more like "#######???!!" Such people appear to have discarded their own identity and are generally disturbed characters..

Somebody mentioned an example of wearing an Indian feather headdress which certainly "feels" like a valid example of crossing the line into cultural appropriation (or misappropriation - someone mentioned that, I like that word better). I think it's going to be a hard to come up with a good definition.

Yeah. Junya Watanabe has often used Indian feathers in his shows, and I think they look good, so I am kind of shocked that some people might find that offensive. Edited by Jacque67
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To elaborate, at 3 in the morning here-lol, sometimes I see western people here trying to go native,,, wearing yukata in summer etc, and saying " so desu ne" to anything a Japanese person may say to them....the Japanese people just find such people an amusing distraction, but their western peers are more like "#######???!!" Such people appear to have discarded their own identity and are generally disturbed characters..

Yeah. Junya Watanabe has often used Indian feathers in his shows, and I think they look good, so I am kind of shocked that some people might find that offensive.

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And apparently Japanese chocolate is the best in the world

http://www.internationalchocolateawards.com/2015/10/world-final-winners-2015/

I'm living the dream!!!

My favorite Baby Metal video is "Gimme Chocolate!" they *REALLY* seem to like chocolate :)

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Now we are getting into Chocolate I would like to remind everyone that VJ is a family friendly site.

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I really don't get "cultural appropriation". If Hispanics,

African Americans, Asians , whoever wanted to don a polo shirt or a house dress and make a roast beef with Yorkshire pudding, I could care less. Ok so it may not be exactly the same thing but I'm thinking of "white things".

As for the dreads fight: it's just hair! Justin timber lake and Gwen stefani wore cornrows in the 90/00's and nobody seemed to care. Why jump on Bieber?

This issue with the dreads is dumb. Let's get that out of the way. We don't own the hairstyle, so anyone can rock it. The root of the issue is when people take something that originated within a different culture and make it "acceptable", then it starts to generate it's own revenue, usually with the originator being left completely out of the equation.

OID mentioned about Taylor Swift and twerking. The bigger issue was Miley Cyrus. Twerking has been around since the 1940's within the black and Hispanic communities. But when it was here, people hated it. It was used as an insult towards black women. It wasn't until Cyrus started doing it that it became popular. Now you have twerkout videos and everyone is comfortable doing something that before was considered the worst dance ever created. Money has been made, and not a penny went to the folks who've been doing it for the last 5 decades. Just like she "brought out" the Nae Nae. Something that another minority group created, but gets very little or no credit for.

Same thing with corn rolls and braids. White women who rock them get hailed as innovators and trendsetters(one of the Jenner girls got this recognition two years ago, black twitter had a field day with it. http://madamenoire.com/416484/black-twitter-goes-marie-claire-saying-kendall-jenner-takes-braids-new-epic-level/. Even the Afro, which has to be the most black thing there is, got more reception when it was on the head of a white woman. http://www.buzzfeed.com/essencegant/this-magazine-used-a-white-woman-in-an-afro-hairstyle-tutori#.egd28mbJ0

We call it Christopher Columbusing. And this video pretty much breaks it down.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/06/25/_columbusing_college_humor_video_coins_the_perfect_term_for_when_white_people.html

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This issue with the dreads is dumb. Let's get that out of the way. We don't own the hairstyle, so anyone can rock it. The root of the issue is when people take something that originated within a different culture and make it "acceptable", then it starts to generate it's own revenue, usually with the originator being left completely out of the equation.

OID mentioned about Taylor Swift and twerking. The bigger issue was Miley Cyrus. Twerking has been around since the 1940's within the black and Hispanic communities. But when it was here, people hated it. It was used as an insult towards black women. It wasn't until Cyrus started doing it that it became popular. Now you have twerkout videos and everyone is comfortable doing something that before was considered the worst dance ever created. Money has been made, and not a penny went to the folks who've been doing it for the last 5 decades. Just like she "brought out" the Nae Nae. Something that another minority group created, but gets very little or no credit for.

Same thing with corn rolls and braids. White women who rock them get hailed as innovators and trendsetters(one of the Jenner girls got this recognition two years ago, black twitter had a field day with it. http://madamenoire.com/416484/black-twitter-goes-marie-claire-saying-kendall-jenner-takes-braids-new-epic-level/. Even the Afro, which has to be the most black thing there is, got more reception when it was on the head of a white woman. http://www.buzzfeed.com/essencegant/this-magazine-used-a-white-woman-in-an-afro-hairstyle-tutori#.egd28mbJ0

We call it Christopher Columbusing. And this video pretty much breaks it down.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/06/25/_columbusing_college_humor_video_coins_the_perfect_term_for_when_white_people.html

Good points. Must remember the columbising phrase.
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Good points. Must remember the columbising phrase.

I want to say Spike Lee brought it out when he was arguing about gentrification in his old neighborhood. That's how it became a popular term. I think there's a list of things that folks out together to show how many things started within the black community but wasn't considered popular until they were "discovered".

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/10/_8_things_that_have_been_columbused_this_year.html

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I want to say Spike Lee brought it out when he was arguing about gentrification in his old neighborhood. That's how it became a popular term. I think there's a list of things that folks out together to show how many things started within the black community but wasn't considered popular until they were "discovered".

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/10/_8_things_that_have_been_columbused_this_year.html

Wow. You are a very honest man-lol.

Fascinating article. As an aside, it sometimes drives me nuts when hear non-native english speakers say "bae", but other times it cracks me up.

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This issue with the dreads is dumb. Let's get that out of the way. We don't own the hairstyle, so anyone can rock it. The root of the issue is when people take something that originated within a different culture and make it "acceptable", then it starts to generate it's own revenue, usually with the originator being left completely out of the equation.

OID mentioned about Taylor Swift and twerking. The bigger issue was Miley Cyrus. Twerking has been around since the 1940's within the black and Hispanic communities. But when it was here, people hated it. It was used as an insult towards black women. It wasn't until Cyrus started doing it that it became popular. Now you have twerkout videos and everyone is comfortable doing something that before was considered the worst dance ever created. Money has been made, and not a penny went to the folks who've been doing it for the last 5 decades. Just like she "brought out" the Nae Nae. Something that another minority group created, but gets very little or no credit for.

Same thing with corn rolls and braids. White women who rock them get hailed as innovators and trendsetters(one of the Jenner girls got this recognition two years ago, black twitter had a field day with it. http://madamenoire.com/416484/black-twitter-goes-marie-claire-saying-kendall-jenner-takes-braids-new-epic-level/. Even the Afro, which has to be the most black thing there is, got more reception when it was on the head of a white woman. http://www.buzzfeed.com/essencegant/this-magazine-used-a-white-woman-in-an-afro-hairstyle-tutori#.egd28mbJ0

We call it Christopher Columbusing. And this video pretty much breaks it down.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/06/25/_columbusing_college_humor_video_coins_the_perfect_term_for_when_white_people.html

Great points made...I feel less racist now

I personally love (and in many ways am quite jealous of) natural black hair

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