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My fiance's mom told us our RFE arrived a few days ago. It seems that they want further info on how we met online and proof that it wasn't an International Marriage Broker. The website we met on has limited Terms and Conditions so I assume I should print those along with any info about the website? I did email the website owner but he said he believes that the terms and conditions for the website should be adequate. I was intending on printing this email alongside the info/ Terms and conditions of the website. Will this be sufficient to fulfill what they would need for our RFE? Thanks.

K-1 Jan 2016 Applicant timeline.

I-129f sent to lock box 7th January 2016.
Delivered 11th January 2016.
NOA1 sent to CSC January 14th 2016.
NOA1 Hard copy January 21st 2016.
RFE email 10th March 2016.
RFE hard copy - 21th March 2016.
RFE Evidence sent- 4th April 2016.
RFE Received by USCIS- 6th April 2016.
NOA2 Received by email dated 18th April 2016.
NOA2 hard copy - April 21st 2016
NVC Recieved- May 9th 2016.
NVC number received- May 9th 2016.
DS-160 filled out - 9th May 2016.
Medical - May 18th 2016
CEAC in Transit - 11th May 2016.
CEAC update embassy received medical- may 24th 2016
Interview- June 15th 2016. - approved!!
POE- July 13th 2016 -Chicago

Married July 18th 2016. (L)

AOS

Package sent- August 18th 2016

Arrived at Chicago Lockbox- August 20th 2016.

NOA 1 - August 25th 2016 (text received 27th).

AP NOA1- 22nd August 2016 (text received 27th).

EAD NOA1- 22nd August 2016 (email received 27th).

NOA1 Hard copies received- September 1st 2016.

Bio-metrics- 20th September 2016.

Request Initial Information for I-485 - October 6th 2016.

RFIE- Affidavit Support information October 11th 2016.

RFIE- Response sent Overnight USPS. October 17th 2016.

RFIE- Delivered October 18th 2016.

RFIE- Received by USCIS October 20th 2016.

EAD- Card Being produced November 17th 2016.

AP- Approved November 17th 2016.

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Scotland
Timeline
Posted (edited)

Which website was it? One of the more well known ones? Or a more obscure they may not have heard of?

We used Eharmony, and we sent in the terms and conditions, transcripts of the conversations, copies of the profiles, and a paragraph or two explaining the role the site played in our meeting and that it didn't fall under the IMBRA criteria as it's a paid service that charges both parties equally, regardless of sex, location, etc.

And that did the trick.

So I assume terms and conditions would be sufficient, I think as long as they stipulate that they are only providing the facilities, they are not actively involved in the process?

Look here as well; http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/288075-i-129f-question-international-marriage-broker/

And the IMBRA section for ideas on wording, etc.

Also, how's the holiday/reunion going?

Edited by Tricked

K1 Visa Timeline - UK Beneficiary - Approved!

31/12/15 Engagement 17/01/16 I-129f sent via FedEx to Lewisville, TX

19/01/16 Delivered and signed for 21/01/16 NOA1 Email - CSC

22/01/16 Cheque cashed 29/01/16 NOA1 Hard Copy
21/01/16 Police Certificate Received 07/03/16 Name Update Notification - Not requested (12.30am GMT)
07/03/16 NOA2 Email/Notification (4.30am GMT) 10/03/16 NOA2 Hard Copy
19/03/16 Vaccinations brought up to date 29/03/16 NVC Received and Case Numbers assigned
30/03/16 NVC Dispatched 31/03/16 Medical Booked for 15/04/16
01/04/16 Embassy Received 05/04/16 Embassy Ready
05/04/16 DS-160 Submitted 06/04/16 Packet 3 Received
06/04/16 Notification of Readiness Submitted 08/04/16 NVC letter received
15/04/16 Medical Complete 21/04/16 Medical Info arrival at Embassy
03/05/16 Scheduled interview with Embassy. 05/05/16 (Packet 4?) Email received from Embassy advising to book interview. (New Process)
20/05/16 CEAC Updated (Unsure as to why) 23/05/16 Packet 4 letter received.
01/06/16 Interview Scheduled. Approved! 02/06/16 CEAC Update Administrative Processing (and a new created date)

03/06/16 CEAC Issued 07/06/16 Tracking information received

08/06/16 Ready for collection at Depot 08/06/16 Collected

08/07/16 POE Newark 21/07/16 Wedding in San Francisco

07/22/16 Convert to using US format dates :ranting:

Social Security Number

7/14/16 SSN applied for in person 7/20/16 SSN Received

NY State Drivers Licence

7/20/16 Applied for NY Drivers Licence, passed theory 7/27/16 Permit Received

8/15/16 New car bought :dancing: 8/20/16 Classroom based 'instruction' booked

8/27/16 Classroom instruction completed. 8/27/16 Practical test booked. (Parallel parking... :unsure:)

9/19/16 Practical test passed.

Adjustment of Status/EAD/AP Timeline

8/15/16 AOS Sent next day via USPS.

8/16/16 AOS Received at Chicago.

8/18/16 AOS NOA1 Issued, email and text notification received.

8/22/16 AOS NOA1 Hard copy received.

9/2/16 Bio Metrics Letter received for 13th September.

9/2/16 Change of Address Requested

9/13/16 Biometrics completed.

9/13/16 Change of Address confirmed completed.

Posted

No it's not a well known site, it's a dating site of sorts, but not an IMB. There is an option to pay a fee for premium services but neither of us ever did. We initially met there as friends and became something more later as we talked a lot on skype.

His trip is going great thanks, we are enjoying the time together.

K-1 Jan 2016 Applicant timeline.

I-129f sent to lock box 7th January 2016.
Delivered 11th January 2016.
NOA1 sent to CSC January 14th 2016.
NOA1 Hard copy January 21st 2016.
RFE email 10th March 2016.
RFE hard copy - 21th March 2016.
RFE Evidence sent- 4th April 2016.
RFE Received by USCIS- 6th April 2016.
NOA2 Received by email dated 18th April 2016.
NOA2 hard copy - April 21st 2016
NVC Recieved- May 9th 2016.
NVC number received- May 9th 2016.
DS-160 filled out - 9th May 2016.
Medical - May 18th 2016
CEAC in Transit - 11th May 2016.
CEAC update embassy received medical- may 24th 2016
Interview- June 15th 2016. - approved!!
POE- July 13th 2016 -Chicago

Married July 18th 2016. (L)

AOS

Package sent- August 18th 2016

Arrived at Chicago Lockbox- August 20th 2016.

NOA 1 - August 25th 2016 (text received 27th).

AP NOA1- 22nd August 2016 (text received 27th).

EAD NOA1- 22nd August 2016 (email received 27th).

NOA1 Hard copies received- September 1st 2016.

Bio-metrics- 20th September 2016.

Request Initial Information for I-485 - October 6th 2016.

RFIE- Affidavit Support information October 11th 2016.

RFIE- Response sent Overnight USPS. October 17th 2016.

RFIE- Delivered October 18th 2016.

RFIE- Received by USCIS October 20th 2016.

EAD- Card Being produced November 17th 2016.

AP- Approved November 17th 2016.

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Scotland
Timeline
Posted

Yea, TOS and the email.

I've seen others also include a covering letter explaining the circumstance, and a paragraph saying how the website is not an IMBRA by definition, with both of you stating that it is not an IMBRA.

K1 Visa Timeline - UK Beneficiary - Approved!

31/12/15 Engagement 17/01/16 I-129f sent via FedEx to Lewisville, TX

19/01/16 Delivered and signed for 21/01/16 NOA1 Email - CSC

22/01/16 Cheque cashed 29/01/16 NOA1 Hard Copy
21/01/16 Police Certificate Received 07/03/16 Name Update Notification - Not requested (12.30am GMT)
07/03/16 NOA2 Email/Notification (4.30am GMT) 10/03/16 NOA2 Hard Copy
19/03/16 Vaccinations brought up to date 29/03/16 NVC Received and Case Numbers assigned
30/03/16 NVC Dispatched 31/03/16 Medical Booked for 15/04/16
01/04/16 Embassy Received 05/04/16 Embassy Ready
05/04/16 DS-160 Submitted 06/04/16 Packet 3 Received
06/04/16 Notification of Readiness Submitted 08/04/16 NVC letter received
15/04/16 Medical Complete 21/04/16 Medical Info arrival at Embassy
03/05/16 Scheduled interview with Embassy. 05/05/16 (Packet 4?) Email received from Embassy advising to book interview. (New Process)
20/05/16 CEAC Updated (Unsure as to why) 23/05/16 Packet 4 letter received.
01/06/16 Interview Scheduled. Approved! 02/06/16 CEAC Update Administrative Processing (and a new created date)

03/06/16 CEAC Issued 07/06/16 Tracking information received

08/06/16 Ready for collection at Depot 08/06/16 Collected

08/07/16 POE Newark 21/07/16 Wedding in San Francisco

07/22/16 Convert to using US format dates :ranting:

Social Security Number

7/14/16 SSN applied for in person 7/20/16 SSN Received

NY State Drivers Licence

7/20/16 Applied for NY Drivers Licence, passed theory 7/27/16 Permit Received

8/15/16 New car bought :dancing: 8/20/16 Classroom based 'instruction' booked

8/27/16 Classroom instruction completed. 8/27/16 Practical test booked. (Parallel parking... :unsure:)

9/19/16 Practical test passed.

Adjustment of Status/EAD/AP Timeline

8/15/16 AOS Sent next day via USPS.

8/16/16 AOS Received at Chicago.

8/18/16 AOS NOA1 Issued, email and text notification received.

8/22/16 AOS NOA1 Hard copy received.

9/2/16 Bio Metrics Letter received for 13th September.

9/2/16 Change of Address Requested

9/13/16 Biometrics completed.

9/13/16 Change of Address confirmed completed.

Posted

They also have a page at the front saying it is 100% free so I will include that with it too. I understand a marriage broker is someone you pay to find someone to marry. It is a social networking and dating site for people with the same interests. So I will print off the 3 images of the site I got for him at college tomorrow, I'm just trying to look for a cover letter template.

K-1 Jan 2016 Applicant timeline.

I-129f sent to lock box 7th January 2016.
Delivered 11th January 2016.
NOA1 sent to CSC January 14th 2016.
NOA1 Hard copy January 21st 2016.
RFE email 10th March 2016.
RFE hard copy - 21th March 2016.
RFE Evidence sent- 4th April 2016.
RFE Received by USCIS- 6th April 2016.
NOA2 Received by email dated 18th April 2016.
NOA2 hard copy - April 21st 2016
NVC Recieved- May 9th 2016.
NVC number received- May 9th 2016.
DS-160 filled out - 9th May 2016.
Medical - May 18th 2016
CEAC in Transit - 11th May 2016.
CEAC update embassy received medical- may 24th 2016
Interview- June 15th 2016. - approved!!
POE- July 13th 2016 -Chicago

Married July 18th 2016. (L)

AOS

Package sent- August 18th 2016

Arrived at Chicago Lockbox- August 20th 2016.

NOA 1 - August 25th 2016 (text received 27th).

AP NOA1- 22nd August 2016 (text received 27th).

EAD NOA1- 22nd August 2016 (email received 27th).

NOA1 Hard copies received- September 1st 2016.

Bio-metrics- 20th September 2016.

Request Initial Information for I-485 - October 6th 2016.

RFIE- Affidavit Support information October 11th 2016.

RFIE- Response sent Overnight USPS. October 17th 2016.

RFIE- Delivered October 18th 2016.

RFIE- Received by USCIS October 20th 2016.

EAD- Card Being produced November 17th 2016.

AP- Approved November 17th 2016.

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Scotland
Timeline
Posted

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/589618-imb-rfe/

There's quite a good one in here, adapt to suit.

Hopefully the author doesn't mind me suggesting it.

"I met my fiancé, xxxxxxxx, May 12, 2015 on the Plenty of Fish website. Plenty of Fish is a dating website that provides both free and paid services, of which I only used the free services. I had no interaction with any person or employee at POF that matched me with my current fiancé, nor have I paid any broker. I browsed the site at my own free will without guidance from any POF personnel, and when I started communicating with my current fiancé, again it was of my own free will.

I, xxxxxxx, do state that Plenty of Fish is not an International Marriage Broker, and have attached a copy of the Terms of Service as proof. The IMBRA states,

Definition of an International Marriage Broker. “International marriage broker” is defined as an entity (whether or not U.S.-based) that charges fees for providing matchmaking services or social referrals between U.S. citizens/permanent residents and foreign nationals. The definition also exempts non-profit religious or cultural matchmaking services, and dating services that do not match U.S. citizens/residents with aliens as their principal business and that charge comparable rates and offer comparable services to all clients, regardless of gender or country of citizenship.

Therefore, POF is not an international marriage broker because it offers the same services to all countries and is not exclusive for the United States. It also offers the same rates for these services to all individuals, regardless of country of citizenship or gender. Plenty of Fish (POF) is not included in IMBRA due to those reasons. It is also not their principal business to provide services between the United States and foreign nationals as POOF provides services to citizens of all countries on an equal basis."

K1 Visa Timeline - UK Beneficiary - Approved!

31/12/15 Engagement 17/01/16 I-129f sent via FedEx to Lewisville, TX

19/01/16 Delivered and signed for 21/01/16 NOA1 Email - CSC

22/01/16 Cheque cashed 29/01/16 NOA1 Hard Copy
21/01/16 Police Certificate Received 07/03/16 Name Update Notification - Not requested (12.30am GMT)
07/03/16 NOA2 Email/Notification (4.30am GMT) 10/03/16 NOA2 Hard Copy
19/03/16 Vaccinations brought up to date 29/03/16 NVC Received and Case Numbers assigned
30/03/16 NVC Dispatched 31/03/16 Medical Booked for 15/04/16
01/04/16 Embassy Received 05/04/16 Embassy Ready
05/04/16 DS-160 Submitted 06/04/16 Packet 3 Received
06/04/16 Notification of Readiness Submitted 08/04/16 NVC letter received
15/04/16 Medical Complete 21/04/16 Medical Info arrival at Embassy
03/05/16 Scheduled interview with Embassy. 05/05/16 (Packet 4?) Email received from Embassy advising to book interview. (New Process)
20/05/16 CEAC Updated (Unsure as to why) 23/05/16 Packet 4 letter received.
01/06/16 Interview Scheduled. Approved! 02/06/16 CEAC Update Administrative Processing (and a new created date)

03/06/16 CEAC Issued 07/06/16 Tracking information received

08/06/16 Ready for collection at Depot 08/06/16 Collected

08/07/16 POE Newark 21/07/16 Wedding in San Francisco

07/22/16 Convert to using US format dates :ranting:

Social Security Number

7/14/16 SSN applied for in person 7/20/16 SSN Received

NY State Drivers Licence

7/20/16 Applied for NY Drivers Licence, passed theory 7/27/16 Permit Received

8/15/16 New car bought :dancing: 8/20/16 Classroom based 'instruction' booked

8/27/16 Classroom instruction completed. 8/27/16 Practical test booked. (Parallel parking... :unsure:)

9/19/16 Practical test passed.

Adjustment of Status/EAD/AP Timeline

8/15/16 AOS Sent next day via USPS.

8/16/16 AOS Received at Chicago.

8/18/16 AOS NOA1 Issued, email and text notification received.

8/22/16 AOS NOA1 Hard copy received.

9/2/16 Bio Metrics Letter received for 13th September.

9/2/16 Change of Address Requested

9/13/16 Biometrics completed.

9/13/16 Change of Address confirmed completed.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
Timeline
Posted

Thread is moved from the K-1 Process forum to the IMBRA subforum.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Posted

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/589618-imb-rfe/

There's quite a good one in here, adapt to suit.

Hopefully the author doesn't mind me suggesting it.

"I met my fiancé, xxxxxxxx, May 12, 2015 on the Plenty of Fish website. Plenty of Fish is a dating website that provides both free and paid services, of which I only used the free services. I had no interaction with any person or employee at POF that matched me with my current fiancé, nor have I paid any broker. I browsed the site at my own free will without guidance from any POF personnel, and when I started communicating with my current fiancé, again it was of my own free will.

I, xxxxxxx, do state that Plenty of Fish is not an International Marriage Broker, and have attached a copy of the Terms of Service as proof. The IMBRA states,

Definition of an International Marriage Broker. “International marriage broker” is defined as an entity (whether or not U.S.-based) that charges fees for providing matchmaking services or social referrals between U.S. citizens/permanent residents and foreign nationals. The definition also exempts non-profit religious or cultural matchmaking services, and dating services that do not match U.S. citizens/residents with aliens as their principal business and that charge comparable rates and offer comparable services to all clients, regardless of gender or country of citizenship.

Therefore, POF is not an international marriage broker because it offers the same services to all countries and is not exclusive for the United States. It also offers the same rates for these services to all individuals, regardless of country of citizenship or gender. Plenty of Fish (POF) is not included in IMBRA due to those reasons. It is also not their principal business to provide services between the United States and foreign nationals as POOF provides services to citizens of all countries on an equal basis."

Thanks very much, we have loosely based our cover letter off this. Please let me know when you get your LND.

K-1 Jan 2016 Applicant timeline.

I-129f sent to lock box 7th January 2016.
Delivered 11th January 2016.
NOA1 sent to CSC January 14th 2016.
NOA1 Hard copy January 21st 2016.
RFE email 10th March 2016.
RFE hard copy - 21th March 2016.
RFE Evidence sent- 4th April 2016.
RFE Received by USCIS- 6th April 2016.
NOA2 Received by email dated 18th April 2016.
NOA2 hard copy - April 21st 2016
NVC Recieved- May 9th 2016.
NVC number received- May 9th 2016.
DS-160 filled out - 9th May 2016.
Medical - May 18th 2016
CEAC in Transit - 11th May 2016.
CEAC update embassy received medical- may 24th 2016
Interview- June 15th 2016. - approved!!
POE- July 13th 2016 -Chicago

Married July 18th 2016. (L)

AOS

Package sent- August 18th 2016

Arrived at Chicago Lockbox- August 20th 2016.

NOA 1 - August 25th 2016 (text received 27th).

AP NOA1- 22nd August 2016 (text received 27th).

EAD NOA1- 22nd August 2016 (email received 27th).

NOA1 Hard copies received- September 1st 2016.

Bio-metrics- 20th September 2016.

Request Initial Information for I-485 - October 6th 2016.

RFIE- Affidavit Support information October 11th 2016.

RFIE- Response sent Overnight USPS. October 17th 2016.

RFIE- Delivered October 18th 2016.

RFIE- Received by USCIS October 20th 2016.

EAD- Card Being produced November 17th 2016.

AP- Approved November 17th 2016.

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Scotland
Timeline
Posted

Nice one.

Yea I will do :)

K1 Visa Timeline - UK Beneficiary - Approved!

31/12/15 Engagement 17/01/16 I-129f sent via FedEx to Lewisville, TX

19/01/16 Delivered and signed for 21/01/16 NOA1 Email - CSC

22/01/16 Cheque cashed 29/01/16 NOA1 Hard Copy
21/01/16 Police Certificate Received 07/03/16 Name Update Notification - Not requested (12.30am GMT)
07/03/16 NOA2 Email/Notification (4.30am GMT) 10/03/16 NOA2 Hard Copy
19/03/16 Vaccinations brought up to date 29/03/16 NVC Received and Case Numbers assigned
30/03/16 NVC Dispatched 31/03/16 Medical Booked for 15/04/16
01/04/16 Embassy Received 05/04/16 Embassy Ready
05/04/16 DS-160 Submitted 06/04/16 Packet 3 Received
06/04/16 Notification of Readiness Submitted 08/04/16 NVC letter received
15/04/16 Medical Complete 21/04/16 Medical Info arrival at Embassy
03/05/16 Scheduled interview with Embassy. 05/05/16 (Packet 4?) Email received from Embassy advising to book interview. (New Process)
20/05/16 CEAC Updated (Unsure as to why) 23/05/16 Packet 4 letter received.
01/06/16 Interview Scheduled. Approved! 02/06/16 CEAC Update Administrative Processing (and a new created date)

03/06/16 CEAC Issued 07/06/16 Tracking information received

08/06/16 Ready for collection at Depot 08/06/16 Collected

08/07/16 POE Newark 21/07/16 Wedding in San Francisco

07/22/16 Convert to using US format dates :ranting:

Social Security Number

7/14/16 SSN applied for in person 7/20/16 SSN Received

NY State Drivers Licence

7/20/16 Applied for NY Drivers Licence, passed theory 7/27/16 Permit Received

8/15/16 New car bought :dancing: 8/20/16 Classroom based 'instruction' booked

8/27/16 Classroom instruction completed. 8/27/16 Practical test booked. (Parallel parking... :unsure:)

9/19/16 Practical test passed.

Adjustment of Status/EAD/AP Timeline

8/15/16 AOS Sent next day via USPS.

8/16/16 AOS Received at Chicago.

8/18/16 AOS NOA1 Issued, email and text notification received.

8/22/16 AOS NOA1 Hard copy received.

9/2/16 Bio Metrics Letter received for 13th September.

9/2/16 Change of Address Requested

9/13/16 Biometrics completed.

9/13/16 Change of Address confirmed completed.

 
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