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So anyway all the stupid stuff aside here is a summary of the ideas proposed in this thread to deal with islamic terrorism, in no particular order. I don't think I've missed any:

1) Nothing

2) Stop bombing/attacking foreign countries

3) Stop or curtail immigration from islamic countries

In terms of efficacy:

1) Obviously stupid

2) Misses the fact that islamists kill each other at higher rates in the middle east and africa than anywhere else, without any foreign intervention at all. Western fighter planes are not a necessary ingredient to terrorism

3) Main worry is this is too prejudicial. But, there are many ways to implement it

Good luck!

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But your ignorance is scary. I have a good excuse.

So I'll ask the same question that you seem to avoid answering but keep asking everyone else to answer it. And I'm sorry, but Japan doesn't cut it since you want more in-depth conversation.

Are you in favor of banning Muslims from the US?

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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So anyway all the stupid stuff aside here is a summary of the ideas proposed in this thread to deal with islamic terrorism, in no particular order. I don't think I've missed any:

1) Nothing

2) Stop bombing/attacking foreign countries

3) Stop or curtail immigration from islamic countries

In terms of efficacy:

1) Obviously stupid

2) Misses the fact that islamists kill each other at higher rates in the middle east and africa than anywhere else, without any foreign intervention at all. Western fighter planes are not a necessary ingredient to terrorism

3) Main worry is this is too prejudicial. But, there are many ways to implement it

I am not sure who said we should do nothing. I said I didn't know of a viable solution. I think we need to address the cause of the issue.

I will say that carpet bombing like Ted Cruz mentioned and bringing back Torture like Donald Trump mentioned will make the problem worse.

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I am not sure who said we should do nothing. I said I didn't know of a viable solution. I think we need to address the cause of the issue.

It's really simple. Expatty wants to keep Muslims out of the US. Don't know why he just won't come out and say it.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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It's really simple. Expatty wants to keep Muslims out of the US. Don't know why he just won't come out and say it.

Yes, I believe you are right.

If some of the hard core righties had their way they would deport all Muslims and Mexicans... we would also probably be fighting a couple more wars and we would be torturing people, holding more people without a trial.. and terrorism would still be happening all over the world.

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What about the Muslims who are USCs? USCs who were born here? Is there a purity test we can administer to tell the goodies from the baddies? Should we bring back the Spanish Inquisition? We could call it a "Freedom Test" instead, more modern, more American, and less danger of Monty Python jokes.

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But your ignorance is scary. I have a good excuse.

Everything is scary for you. That's the problem. That why your solutions are based on fear.

As Ben Franklin said, a people who are willing to give up liberty for security will have neither. George Santayana said those that can't remember the past are doomed to repeat it. You are doing both.

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What about the Muslims who are USCs? USCs who were born here? Is there a purity test we can administer to tell the goodies from the baddies? Should we bring back the Spanish Inquisition? We could call it a "Freedom Test" instead, more modern, more American, and less danger of Monty Python jokes.

I think they want internment camps again. :wow:

Everything is scary for you. That's the problem. That why your solutions are based on fear.

As Ben Franklin said, a people who are willing to give up liberty for security will have neither. George Santayana said those that can't remember the past are doomed to repeat it. You are doing both.

Fear is how the right wing stays in power. Watch Fox news for an hour and it's easy to think the world is coming to an end and it's Obama's fault.

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Yes, I believe you are right.

If some of the hard core righties had their way they would deport all Muslims and Mexicans... we would also probably be fighting a couple more wars and we would be torturing people, holding more people without a trial.. and terrorism would still be happening all over the world.

I think any side left unchecked would be bad for business. But yep, it's been said here a few times some members have no problem rounding up all Muslims and putting them in interment camps. Or flat out killing all of them since they can't tell the difference between ISIS and "moderate" Muslims.

What about the Muslims who are USCs? USCs who were born here? Is there a purity test we can administer to tell the goodies from the baddies? Should we bring back the Spanish Inquisition? We could call it a "Freedom Test" instead, more modern, more American, and less danger of Monty Python jokes.

My favorite scene by far.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President-Obama-jpg.jpg

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So anyway all the stupid stuff aside here is a summary of the ideas proposed in this thread to deal with islamic terrorism, in no particular order. I don't think I've missed any:

1) Nothing

2) Stop bombing/attacking foreign countries

3) Stop or curtail immigration from islamic countries

In terms of efficacy:

1) Obviously stupid

2) Misses the fact that islamists kill each other at higher rates in the middle east and africa than anywhere else, without any foreign intervention at all. Western fighter planes are not a necessary ingredient to terrorism

3) Main worry is this is too prejudicial. But, there are many ways to implement it

I've said many times we need to get out of the middle east. Your presumption of number 2 is wrong, since we have been messing around there for the last 75 years.

Putting the Shah of Iran back in power over a democratically elected government in 1953 was wrong. Keeping an absolute monarchy propped up in Saudi Arabia is wrong. Invading Iraq for - not even sure why on that one, but it's wrong. These are the things that open the door for extremism.

You can't say stopping foreign intervention doesn't work until you stop doing it. We are not doing things there in the interest of the people there. We never have.

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