i-485 c (3) question - Immigrant information (merged threads)

[Dirty harry 25]

So my wife is USC, is applying for parents concurrently, on I-485 we are putting "yes" to communist affiliation question from when father was in the Russian military in the 80's I am attaching a letter explaining the membership reasons and citing the Uscis laws that excuse communist party membership.My question: under section c (3) what do we write? I already put the dates he was in the army, do I also put "member of communist party" in addition to the letter I am writing?

THANK YOU

Harry

[Dirty harry 25]

so If i answer yes to part 3 question 18 on the I- 485 " have you ever received military training"?

does that mean I automatically answer yes to question part 3 15 (A) "Have you EVER: a. Served in, been a member of, assisted in, or participated in any military unit, paramilitary unit, police unit,
self-defense unit, vigilante unit, rebel group, guerrilla group, militia, or insurgent organization?" also Do I address both in separate letters with the exact same explanation? it was mandatory 2 year service it seems strange they would ask it twice if its the same answer

Harry

[Pitaya 2,577]

~Similar/on-going themed threads merged, no need for additional thread~

~Moved from Fam.-based AOS to WST-based AOS Forum~

~What type of visa are the parents adjusting from?

Pitaya

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Edited March 17, 2016 by Pitaya

[Dirty harry 25]

~Similar/on-going themed threads merged, no need for additional thread~

~Moved from Fam.-based AOS to WST-based AOS Forum~

~What type of visa are the parents adjusting from?

Pitaya

VJ Moderation

They are adjusting from a b/2 visa

Thank you

Harry

[Pitaya 2,577]

~Since your lines of inquiry are country-specific, I am going to move your thread to the RUB Regional Forum. You should likely get more appropriate and focused responses at that forum.~

Pitaya

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[Dirty harry 25]

any body know?

[ONA 133]

I haven't applied for my parents yet. However, I don't think that military service qualifies as "affiliation to the communist party", and definitely does not qualify as "member of communist party". My dad served in the Soviet military (he was drafted), but he hated communism, and was never actually a member of the communist party (based on what I know you had to apply for a membership - memberships in youth organizations don't count).

But for question 3 15 (A) "Have you EVER: a. Served in, been a member of, assisted in, or participated in any military unit, paramilitary unit, police unit,
self-defense unit, vigilante unit, rebel group, guerrilla group, militia, or insurgent organization?" I would put "yes" and provide explanation that it was a draft.

That's what I think base on what I know about Russia Let's see what others say.

[Dirty harry 25]

I haven't applied for my parents yet. However, I don't think that military service qualifies as "affiliation to the communist party", and definitely does not qualify as "member of communist party". My dad served in the Soviet military (he was drafted), but he hated communism, and was never actually a member of the communist party (based on what I know you had to apply for a membership - memberships in youth organizations don't count).

But for question 3 15 (A) "Have you EVER: a. Served in, been a member of, assisted in, or participated in any military unit, paramilitary unit, police unit,

self-defense unit, vigilante unit, rebel group, guerrilla group, militia, or insurgent organization?" I would put "yes" and provide explanation that it was a draft.

That's what I think base on what I know about Russia Let's see what others say.

Thanks for the info ONA. My understanding from my father in law is that it was possible to "not" be a member but for career advancement it was looked at as a "good idea" to join. My understanding of the immigration law is that if a dictatorship was in control of the country and was communist and it has been more than 5 years since membership, USCIS must take that statement at face value. other exceptions include involuntary membership and if membership was to provide for your family.I sure hope I am right. Is it your in laws or actual parents that are Russian? I would love to know their story with communism, it might give clarity.

Thanks

Harry

[ONA 133]

My actual parents are Russian citizens.

Yes, it's true that people joined the USSR communist party because of better career prospects. That, however, did not mean in any form or shape that you absolutely had to be a member of the party. It just meant that you were a part of a special class of people (so-called "nomenklatura"), who held important positions in government, education, industry etc. It doesn't mean that somebody held a gun over your had and made you join I don't think anybody in my family ever was a member (maybe that's why nobody in my family had a great career , but they were not living in poverty either). With my parents it could be a bit easier too - they were young adults in the 80s when the communist party was probably not as strong as before.

[ONA 133]

My actual parents are Russian citizens.

Yes, it's true that people joined the USSR communist party because of better career prospects. That, however, did not mean in any form or shape that you absolutely had to be a member of the party. It just meant that you were a part of a special class of people (so-called "nomenklatura"), who held important positions in government, education, industry etc. It doesn't mean that somebody held a gun over your had and made you join I don't think anybody in my family ever was a member (maybe that's why nobody in my family had a great career , but they were not living in poverty either). With my parents it could be a bit easier too - they were young adults in the 80s when the communist party was probably not as strong as before.

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