What I Saw Outside of the Donald Trump Rally in Kansas City

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

There is this presidential candidate. You may have heard of the guy. His name is Donald J. Trump. He is of course a very controversial figure. And, he was speaking last night in Kansas City, downtown… At the Midland Theater. I went to his rally. The following is an account of what I saw. Now, it is simply what I literally saw, as well as my impressions. I want to apologize if this is a very “stream of consciousness” writing. I did not take notes, nor did I interview people. I was late getting there (because there were an enormous number of people that wanted to get in). Trump overbooked, as he almost always has. There were hundreds of Trump supporters that were left outside. And, I was one of them….

I remember driving by both supporters and a roughly thousand strong crowd of protestors. Perhaps there may have been a little more, perhaps a little less. The supporters were dressed in a variety of clothing, but business casual seemed to be the standard, and I felt somewhat out of place in a hoodie and cargo shorts. As I drove by, I noticed Black Lives Matter protesters. I noticed a black man in line to get into Trump’s event. I was having a cigarette, and heard one of the BLM guys call the black man a traitor.

I parked and walked to get to the line. I took note of what the protesters looked like. They mostly were college aged young adults, with no small number of 30-50 year-olds among them. There was a preponderance of signs accusing Trump of being a Nazi, a racist, a hatemonger…. There were also a variety of protesters that were either wearing masks, or had bandannas which could either be fitted to the purpose of preventing damage from tear gas or Mace. Some of the signs were fairly clever. One girl (20-ish) was offering free hugs to Trump supporters (A sign saying ‘Hug a Democrat”)… I didn’t hug her. Hardly any of us did. Though she was the most peaceful of anyone I saw, there were more than a few peaceful folks among them. The Black Lives Matter folks seemed to be the most violent and aggressive.

Trump’s people probably averaged 40, white, and male. There were a large number of women. There were people in their 60s and 70s, and kids that were college aged. Anywhere from 5-10% of them were people of color. And, there were more dirty looks, and vitriol directed at them by the protesters than anyone else. A cop (KC TAC) came along and says that Trump overbooked, and they have closed the doors, and asks the Trump people to go home, but that he cannot force us to leave. (I think around 7pm).

I stuck around. I was intrigued. I wanted to see what would happen. More protestors showed up. They were yelling. They were angry. And, the Trump supporters were angry and afraid. The cops kept the two groups separated.

I witnessed a person who either was a BLM protester, or was hiding among them, grab and run with a Trump supporter’s purse. The admittedly overworked and over-stressed police didn’t seem to do much about it, but I cannot say I blame them. The Trump supporters never in all of this initiated force. Not once. Even as they were called evil hateful names. There was a 60-ish white guy with a shock of white hair behind me (before we were told there was no more room inside) who was more or less harassed by young white kids in Bernie Sanders t-shirts. He told them that they could stand by them, but he wanted them to not talk to him. They didn’t seem to be able to do that. I don’t know whether they were afraid of me, or thought I was one their side because of my skin color and hoodie. I was happy I dressed down for this…. They had no problem ganging up on an old man. But, they were not threatening to attack him. I felt bad for the man, and was prepared to defend him if necessary.

I got closer to the doors of the Midland, and saw a lady who was one of the Trump people being held back from getting into a fight with the protesters. Other Trump people were holding her back.

Why?

Simple.

Someone had spit on her. I don’t know exactly when, but these people who had signs telling me that Trump was a fascist began yelling that the Trump rally needed to be shut down. The Trump supporters became quite angry, and fearful when these so-called anti-fascists began trying to silence Trump’s right to political speech.

After some shoving (which I am not sure whether it was Trump people, or a mistake between the protesters), the police hosed down protesters with mace. Even after that, the protesters stayed. I did not.

Look, I have seen various videos in which people have said Trump is a fascist. I have seen videos in which Trump does directly demand that protesters who have made it inside of his events be kicked out. After what I saw, I cannot blame him in the least. Trump’s actual supporters all seemed pretty nice. And very well controlled, given what the protesting folks were doing. The protesters were trying to goad them into a fight, even going as far as spitting on people, and trying to push and shove them. (the one lady I saw is allegedly not the only one). For all the talk of racism among his supporters, it must have been the most covert racism in a while. I look like a big Mexican. The moment that the Trump supporters around me realized that I was on the same side as them, they basically considered me one of their own.

The only racism I seemed to witness was among the protesters, who seemed to be really angry at the white people there who showed up, and had no problem accusing them of being the spiritual descendants of a man responsible for 6 million deaths. And of course, the racist things they said to the various people of color who’s support for Trump was inherently treason. (Treason to who? Because if your first loyalty is to your race, and not to the USA, then I’m not your “brother”)….

The Black Lives Matter folks were particularly bad, by the way. And also, the most racist…

A few thoughts here:

Anyone who was a Trump supporter who went there, probably went there thinking “Trump is my guy. I’m voting for him.” If they saw the protesters, they walked away thinking, “If I don’t vote for this guy, these people will try to kill me.”

It is the height of hypocrisy to yell that your political opponent is a fascist, and then try to shut down his political speech. Honestly, more than the spitting, the shoving, the accusations of Nazism, the thing that most pissed me off was the incredible hypocrisy of the protesters.

I saw a lot of Bernie shirts, and I would bet most of the protesters were pro-Bernie. Anyone who thinks Bernie is just a peaceful old man, who is passionate about correcting course for the country… Maybe he is (at least in his own mind). Anyone who thinks that Bernie supporters are all decent folks who want to change things for the better, many probably are. But, a lot of them clearly have a lot of hate in their hearts. I saw the anger in those faces. Many of these people were the kind that I think would have been starving Ukrainians, killing kulaks, or eliminating class enemies in a different time period, and in a different place.

I cannot say that there are no racists among Trump supporters. There are. I’ve met some. But, Bernie (and Hillary as well) have alot of racists in their ranks. Their racists are all people of color, a subset of people of color, and they hate white people. They hate any black, Hispanic, or Asian person who rejects identity politics even more.

I saw the beginning of a civil war in downtown KC. Because while the anger was extreme amongst the protesters, I saw plenty of it amongst the Trump folks. Anger, and fear. This sudden realization that the protesters literally hate them. This is how wars begin. And, while I’m not angry per se, I am more afraid than ever.

I did have a conversation with a woman afterwards who did not know I went to the rally, or what I saw. I have seen her a few times at a place I frequent. But, she doesn’t know anything about my politics. She demanded to know who I was voting for, assuming that I was a Democrat, and demanding I vote for Bernie. I told her about my experience, and she told me that Trump shouldn’t have been allowed to speak, and she voiced her support for everything that happened. She laughed at the Black man who was called a traitor. She thought that the woman who was spat upon deserved it, and thought that there was no irony or hypocrisy in trying to silence Trump by people who called him a fascist…

Look, here is the thing. I cannot tell you that Donald Trump is a saint. Or that he is perfect. Or that his ideas will in fact “Make American Great Again.” I am sure that DJ Trump is neither a saint, nor perfect. And I cannot know whether he or anyone else at this point can make America great again.

What I can tell you is that people like the protesters, and this unnamed (but very much real) woman scare me much more than any Trump supporter ever. Because they self-righteously do everything they accuse Trump of, and then don’t acknowledge the irony. They believe that they are doing the best thing. They act like every historical description I have ever read of the people who end up getting jobs as secret police in the Cheka or the Einsatzgruppen…. I am terrified of these folks. And if the Democratic Party as a whole, or even a plurality are like that, we need a velvet divorce as a country now. Because I cannot occupy the same country as those people if they have enough power to make policy.

Marlin Muza

Independence, MO

http://thenorthlandnews.com/saw-outside-donald-trump-rally-kansas-city/#disqus_thread

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

Good read thanks for posting. This is by and far what I have seen with Trump Rallies. Yes, there are bad apples that give them a bad name. But from what I have heard the majority of Trump rallies are peaceful and patriotic. While alot of Anti-Trump protests are not patriotic or peaceful.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Hate flows both ways.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-attend-trump-rally-african-174000283.html

"On one hand, O'Neal saw the event is proof her school is a safe place for minority groups. On the other hand, having racial slurs flung at her and seeing "the hate," as she called it, in some supporters' eyes now has her questioning who is friend and who is foe.

"I've never felt scared of white people before in my life," said O'Neal, who has a white mother and a black father. "But walking out and walking home I couldn't tell who was against me.

"Not knowing who was on your side and who inherently hates you. We're trying to put the pieces together about what happens now."

[ExPatty 502]

I cannot say that there are no racists among Trump supporters. There are. I’ve met some. But, Bernie (and Hillary as well) have alot of racists in their ranks. Their racists are all people of color, a subset of people of color, and they hate white people. They hate any black, Hispanic, or Asian person who rejects identity politics even more.

This is impossible, or at least irrelevant; people who are racist and of a minority are completely benign. They never cause any harm. And anyway, even their hatred is the white man's fault.

The truth is, as we all know except for the very few useful idiots causing all this bedlam, is that going to Trump rallies and screaming and threatening and assaulting and deriding his supporters as being racist fascists is going to have an undesired effect. If I am going to hear a guy speak and people I've never met are spitting on me and shoving me for it, I'm going to be sure I vote for whoever pisses them off.

Ask yourself how the woman here holding her infant feels about having people come around and scream and intimidate while she is eating lunch. Ask yourself if they made a positive or negative impression on her insofar as their cause is related:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqXIs1cD9-o

[Jacque67 7,328]

Mobs are not attractive to be sure. The dangerous ones are the people instigating the show... The French Revolution was run by the middle class not the dudes fighting in the streets.

[eieio 1,594]

Great article Charles!

Anyone can see the protesters are the ones seeking violence. Not only that…..they really are facists. Their goal is to shut down those they don't agree with…….yet much of the media has no issue with this. Their hatred and anger towards free speech they do not like, clouds their judgement.

[lostinblue 1,989]

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

Hate flows both ways.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-attend-trump-rally-african-174000283.html

"On one hand, O'Neal saw the event is proof her school is a safe place for minority groups. On the other hand, having racial slurs flung at her and seeing "the hate," as she called it, in some supporters' eyes now has her questioning who is friend and who is foe.

"I've never felt scared of white people before in my life," said O'Neal, who has a white mother and a black father. "But walking out and walking home I couldn't tell who was against me.

"Not knowing who was on your side and who inherently hates you. We're trying to put the pieces together about what happens now."

Wow... So she went to the Chicago rally and was surprised that she heard and saw what she saw in the mist of that chaos. Chicago was crazy.

[OriZ 3,157]

Anyone who was a Trump supporter who went there, probably went there thinking “Trump is my guy. I’m voting for him.” If they saw the protesters, they walked away thinking, “If I don’t vote for this guy, these people will try to kill me.”

It is the height of hypocrisy to yell that your political opponent is a fascist, and then try to shut down his political speech. Honestly, more than the spitting, the shoving, the accusations of Nazism, the thing that most pissed me off was the incredible hypocrisy of the protesters.

I saw a lot of Bernie shirts, and I would bet most of the protesters were pro-Bernie. Anyone who thinks Bernie is just a peaceful old man, who is passionate about correcting course for the country… Maybe he is (at least in his own mind). Anyone who thinks that Bernie supporters are all decent folks who want to change things for the better, many probably are. But, a lot of them clearly have a lot of hate in their hearts. I saw the anger in those faces. Many of these people were the kind that I think would have been starving Ukrainians, killing kulaks, or eliminating class enemies in a different time period, and in a different place.

I cannot say that there are no racists among Trump supporters. There are. I’ve met some. But, Bernie (and Hillary as well) have alot of racists in their ranks. Their racists are all people of color, a subset of people of color, and they hate white people. They hate any black, Hispanic, or Asian person who rejects identity politics even more.

I saw the beginning of a civil war in downtown KC. Because while the anger was extreme amongst the protesters, I saw plenty of it amongst the Trump folks. Anger, and fear. This sudden realization that the protesters literally hate them. This is how wars begin. And, while I’m not angry per se, I am more afraid than ever.

I did have a conversation with a woman afterwards who did not know I went to the rally, or what I saw. I have seen her a few times at a place I frequent. But, she doesn’t know anything about my politics. She demanded to know who I was voting for, assuming that I was a Democrat, and demanding I vote for Bernie. I told her about my experience, and she told me that Trump shouldn’t have been allowed to speak, and she voiced her support for everything that happened. She laughed at the Black man who was called a traitor. She thought that the woman who was spat upon deserved it, and thought that there was no irony or hypocrisy in trying to silence Trump by people who called him a fascist…

Look, here is the thing. I cannot tell you that Donald Trump is a saint. Or that he is perfect. Or that his ideas will in fact “Make American Great Again.” I am sure that DJ Trump is neither a saint, nor perfect. And I cannot know whether he or anyone else at this point can make America great again.

What I can tell you is that people like the protesters, and this unnamed (but very much real) woman scare me much more than any Trump supporter ever. Because they self-righteously do everything they accuse Trump of, and then don’t acknowledge the irony. They believe that they are doing the best thing. They act like every historical description I have ever read of the people who end up getting jobs as secret police in the Cheka or the Einsatzgruppen…. I am terrified of these folks. And if the Democratic Party as a whole, or even a plurality are like that, we need a velvet divorce as a country now. Because I cannot occupy the same country as those people if they have enough power to make policy.

This is precisely it. Their hypocrisy is screaming it can be heard up in mars, yet they'll try to lecture you about their "right to protest" as if you are a child who knows nothing about democracy. They'll try to tell you how "uninformed" it is to compare this behavior to the KKK. It is scary, scarier than Trump, and if they are given more terms, they will destroy the country. That is why people will stop it even at the cost of voting for Trump.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Why no comments after this video? Wait, I got another one.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/03/13/donald-trump-john-mcgraw-legal-fees-punch-orig-vstan-dlewis.cnn

Looks real peaceful to me...

[OriZ 3,157]

Why no comments after this video? Wait, I got another one.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/03/13/donald-trump-john-mcgraw-legal-fees-punch-orig-vstan-dlewis.cnn

Looks real peaceful to me...

Yawn

Try something new

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Yawn

Try something new

It was two days ago. If you want more current, we can wait for the next rally and see what happens.

So tell me Oriz, why is protesting a Trump rally worse than getting punched in the face at one while walking out?

[lostinblue 1,989]

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

It was two days ago. If you want more current, we can wait for the next rally and see what happens.

So tell me Oriz, why is protesting a Trump rally worse than getting punched in the face at one while walking out?

Ok, you keep going and referring to one or two incidences that have happened at a Trump rally. Why are these protesters actually in the rally, why aren't they outside the rally protesting? If I was going into a rally and actively protesting and raising cain then I would expect to be shoved around , roughed up, and that's the truth. If you don't agree with someone's views it does not give you the right to go to their rallies and start protesting those views in the rally, that is just plain stupid in my book. I say that because tempers will be high on both sides so something is bound to flare up on either side.

As of right now there are two drastically different views of how this country should go. You have on one side the liberal open borders, no illegal left behind crowd. that is openly pandering to Illegals and want to give everybody free stuff.

While on the other hand you have people who want to adhere to the rule of law, give people a hand up not a hand out crowd that say we need to control this government and out of control spending.