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just trying to properly gauge a woman's worth in this brave new trump world. *shudder*

That would depend on the size of her....

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I know plenty of self respecting women(including my wife) that are at the very least considering it only because they also don't want Clinton. It's not rocket science. Not every decision someone makes has to do with lack of self respect, and it's very condescending and pretentious to automatically assume so.

Sorry if you took it as an attack on your wife. It wasn't. But woman to woman I'd ask her if she could seriously stomach or live with herself voting for such a person into office. Chances are, even if she'd do it, she'd have some serious concerns (maybe you do as well). I'm not a lesser of two evils type of person. Because a person that makes me seriously question their morals, ethics, sanity, policies, and general treatment of other human beings is not a person who deserves a vote just because they are not as bad as another person. Because everyone has a choice. They have a choice to vote for someone else or not to vote at all (in protest), and still feel as if they contributed without compromising moral ethics. It's obviously something everyone should carefully consider.

Republicans and Independents I speak to are disgusted with everyone.. with the whole thing. I remember a time when they could actually stomach and wanted to vote for Hillary, but they sure as hell don't want any part of Trump. I live in heavy red territory even in a blue state, and I see a lot of Bernie signs, but even when asked they are dubious about him at best. These are the persons you don't see represented in the media that are worshipping everything Trump says or does... they are actually scared and concerned by a man like that -- they see choices that don't represent anything they stand for either.

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Sorry if you took it as an attack on your wife. It wasn't. But woman to woman I'd ask her if she could seriously stomach or live with herself voting for such a person into office. Chances are, even if she'd do it, she'd have some serious concerns (maybe you do as well). I'm not a lesser of two evils type of person. Because a person that makes me seriously question their morals, ethics, sanity, policies, and general treatment of other human beings is not a person who deserves a vote just because they are not as bad as another person. Because everyone has a choice. They have a choice to vote for someone else or not to vote at all (in protest), and still feel as if they contributed without compromising moral ethics. It's obviously something everyone should carefully consider.

Totally agree, the last thing we need is Hillary.

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When you say "us", are you voting in this election?

We expect that I will be able to by then, but it's not 100% certain. Nevertheless, we're usually aligned. The only thing we don't agree on is movies lol

This rates as about the most uniformed statements I have read on CEHEST in a long time

Absolutely nothing uninformed there. I didn't call them racist, I said they were intolerant, which they obviously are, by virtue of not being willing to let someone speak.

peaceful protest is not intolerance. blows my mind how many people live in the us and fail to recognize the importance of our right to protest.

if trump's peeps organize and protest at a bernie rally - that isn't intolerance either, it's their right to protest what they disagree with. but the moment someone gets assaulted? THAT'S INTOLERANCE.

for example, take any one of the funeral protests from westboro. normally there are counter protesters. are the counter protesters intolerant of westboro or are they allowing westboro their freedom of speech AND voicing their complete and total repulsion to what westboro is saying?

protest is a natural & healthy part of democracy, but protest is definitely frowned upon in an oligarchy - maybe that's why you're confused.

i'm sayin'

Peaceful protest my ###.

So far I haven't seen anyone crash any Sanders rally. When that happens come talk to me about intolerance.

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We expect that I will be able to by then, but it's not 100% certain. Nevertheless, we're usually aligned. The only thing we don't agree on is movies lol

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Peaceful protest my ###.

So far I haven't seen anyone crash any Sanders rally. When that happens come talk to me about intolerance.

there's nothing stopping trump supporters from organizing and doing the same.
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You : So yeah the KKK and moveon.org have some in common - they're both intolerant.

Me: This rates as about the most uniformed statements I have read on CEHEST in a long time

You: Absolutely nothing uninformed there. I didn't call them racist, I said they were intolerant, which they obviously are, by virtue of not being willing to let someone speak.

This KKK:

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he Ku Klux Klan, with its long history of violence, is the most infamous — and oldest — of American hate groups. Although black Americans have typically been the Klan's primary target, it also has attacked Jews, immigrants, gays and lesbians and, until recently, Catholics.
is compared to this Moveon.org?

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there's nothing stopping trump supporters from organizing and doing the same.

Exactly my point. Of course they could, but they don't.

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Hey so my wife and I went to the mall today...they had this little place there with boxers that had a print of Bernie on them and said "feel the Bern". She threatened to buy a pair for me, I told her if she does that I'll have to keep farting in them. She changed her mind.

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You're telling me how things are in your world and the world that you justify for yourself, not how things are for the rest of us, the people that you do not personally know or their behavior. I know you don't believe me. You only believe yourself, because you have to, or else the basis of your pretzel-twisting defensiveness will collapse. Reality is a constant and will keep going contrary to the narrow-view some hold of others or the world at large.

I know this is a few hours old, but let me just respond by saying I listen to a lot of stand up comics. The best ones always are making commentaries on truth. When an audience laughs the hardest it's when the comic says something they either never publicly admit or didn't even realize about themselves.

From time to time a comic will give the skinny to the audience about how guys think. I always imagine each guy there with a date/gf/wife is squirming like mad, laughing but also thinking "Damn, you aren't supposed to tell them!". If the girl asks the guy on the way home if guys really think like that, I imagine he'll lie and say no.

I'm telling you the same thing. You also have your view of reality, and a pretzel-twisting defensiveness. I think it's safe to say I've spoken to more guys about women than you have. And I have no skin in this game. If you are open, you can learn something. I've never, ever met a guy who didn't judge women on their appearance. It is in their nature. Also do it with cars. You may do it with men, clothes, pretty houses, whatever.

Good luck!

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why don't they?

Because they are not fascist thugs that believe their right to express themselves in infantile ways trumps(no pun intended) the rights of others?

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I know this is a few hours old, but let me just respond by saying I listen to a lot of stand up comics. The best ones always are making commentaries on truth. When an audience laughs the hardest it's when the comic says something they either never publicly admit or didn't even realize about themselves.

From time to time a comic will give the skinny to the audience about how guys think. I always imagine each guy there with a date/gf/wife is squirming like mad, laughing but also thinking "Damn, you aren't supposed to tell them!". If the girl asks the guy on the way home if guys really think like that, I imagine he'll lie and say no.

I'm telling you the same thing. You also have your view of reality, and a pretzel-twisting defensiveness. I think it's safe to say I've spoken to more guys about women than you have. And I have no skin in this game. If you are open, you can learn something. I've never, ever met a guy who didn't judge women on their appearance. It is in their nature. Also do it with cars. You may do it with men, clothes, pretty houses, whatever.

  1. There is a difference in what a shock-jock will say on stage and what a Presidential candidate is held to. Maybe we can give the Trumpster an "I'm just saying" , for the pre-candidate Trump activity, but once you are running all of your words and deeds should be put on a scale and weighed. This is a job interview, at least pretend to not to be an ###. I
  2. I hope you have or find a good looking woman to bring into your life. Once you have her..what will you offer her? Are you okay with her treating you as a collectible object?
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Exactly my point. Of course they could, but they don't.

No they don't. They just spit on folks at the rally.

Or what about his gem:

Oh wait, what about this one?

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/03/13/donald-trump-john-mcgraw-legal-fees-punch-orig-vstan-dlewis.cnn

Trump is considering paying for his legal fees, since CLEARLY he wasn't in the wrong for elbowing someone as they were leaving...

It's amazing how protesting Trump's rally literally gets people in here ready to fire up the pitchforks and break out the ropes, but when these things happen(more frequently I'm afraid) it's downplayed as nothing.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

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