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Helpme123   9

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Jimmy,

I have a question, are early filer's (applicants that file within the 90 day period before there GC anniversary) restricted from any N400 milestones due to their anniversary date (priority date)?

There has been some conversation in the Feb 2016 N400 thread that suggests, inline interview letters, interviews or maybe oath ceremonies are not scheduled until the applicant has reached their GC anniversary date.

Could you shed some light on this?

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http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/582843-n-400-february-2016-filers/page-38

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JimmyHou   611

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Jimmy,

I have a question, are early filer's (applicants that file within the 90 day period before there GC anniversary) restricted from any N400 milestones due to their anniversary date (priority date)?

There has been some conversation in the Feb 2016 N400 thread that suggests, inline interview letters, interviews or maybe oath ceremonies are not scheduled until the applicant has reached their GC anniversary date.

Could you shed some light on this?

Reference: Post #567

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/582843-n-400-february-2016-filers/page-38

Hi... not sure why you're asking me specifically, but I'll be happy to give you my opinion... I think that because I like to talk a lot people actually think I know what I'm talking about... :-)

I haven't read the February 2016 thread in the past few weeks, so I can't comment on the conversation there.

However, here's what I know:

If you apply early:

1- it is very unlikely that you'll be placed inline earlier than 1 month before your anniversary date.

2- Most early applicants (60% or more each month) are placed inline exactly one month before their anniversary date.). For example, in Dec 2015, 10 VJ members applied early and 8 were placed inline exactly one month before their anniversary or on the following non-weekend day.

3- You can't legally be naturalized before your anniversary date.

4- While you can legally be interviewed before your anniversary date, most offices seem to avoid this. Some will interview you and then schedule an oath date after the interview and some will avoid scheduling an interview before the anniversary date. Houston for example, has turned away several applicants who were scheduled (mistakenly, I guess) for interviews before the anniversary date.

So back to your question:

-Very unlikely that you'll be inline more than a month before your anniversary date.

-Possible that you'll be interviewed before your anniversary, but this depends on your local office.

-Not possible to become a citizen before your anniversary date (unless the requirement is waived under special circumstances).

Also, just a correction; there's no inline letter. That is just an e-notification.

Finally, I'll just add that it's always wise to rely on multiple answers... there are VJ users on here who know so much more about this than I do... so I'm glad that you posted this rather than sending a private message.

Good luck to you!

Edited by JimmyHou

For a review of each step of my N-400 naturalization process, from application to oath ceremony, please click here.

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akihon   129

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This is the comment that I made that is being referenced for this question: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/582843-n-400-february-2016-filers/page-39#entry8048272

Adjustment of Status from H-1B, Family-Based
07/26/2012 - 10/18/2012: 85 Days from Application Received to GC Received.
Removal of Conditions
07/22/2014 - 11/14/2014: 116 Days from Application Received to GC Received.
Naturalization
02/03/2016 - 05/31/2016 : 119 Days from Application Received to Oath Ceremony.

I am a United States citizen!

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Thread is moved from the US Citizenship main forum to the Case Progress subforum.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Lol they asked you Jimmy because whether you like it or not you are one of the experts in regards to N400s!

Anyway I agree with everything you said. I dont know if its ever going to really happen but one day I would like to see every applications processed so quickly that this becomes an issue. Probably not going to happen but its nice to dream.

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Spoom and I are very good examples of this. See below for our dates from the December thread. We both have the same filed office.

Spoom did NOT file early. GC date is 04/2010

I did file early. My GC date is in03/2013

I did my application earlier and my biometrics earlier than Spoom.

But Spoom got put in line almost immediately after while it took a month for me to get my notice and it was a month before my anniversary date.

UserName.........|GC-Date.|Sent.|Cashd|NOA..|Fprints.|In Line..|Int Ltr..|Intview..|Oath.....|Field Office

Ms Hogan.........|03/14/13|12/14|12/16|12/17|01/11/16|02/15/16.|02/19/16.|03/22/16.|--/--/--.|Cleveland, OH

Spoom............|04/19/10|12/21|12/29|12/28|01/20/16|01/25/16.|01/29/16.|02/29/16.|03/18/16.|Cleveland, OH

USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2

NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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akihon   129

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Spoom and I are very good examples of this. See below for our dates from the December thread. We both have the same filed office.

Spoom did NOT file early. GC date is 04/2010

I did file early. My GC date is in03/2013

I did my application earlier and my biometrics earlier than Spoom.

But Spoom got put in line almost immediately after while it took a month for me to get my notice and it was a month before my anniversary date.

UserName.........|GC-Date.|Sent.|Cashd|NOA..|Fprints.|In Line..|Int Ltr..|Intview..|Oath.....|Field Office

Ms Hogan.........|03/14/13|12/14|12/16|12/17|01/11/16|02/15/16.|02/19/16.|03/22/16.|--/--/--.|Cleveland, OH

Spoom............|04/19/10|12/21|12/29|12/28|01/20/16|01/25/16.|01/29/16.|02/29/16.|03/18/16.|Cleveland, OH

Very interesting.

Edited by akihon

Adjustment of Status from H-1B, Family-Based
07/26/2012 - 10/18/2012: 85 Days from Application Received to GC Received.
Removal of Conditions
07/22/2014 - 11/14/2014: 116 Days from Application Received to GC Received.
Naturalization
02/03/2016 - 05/31/2016 : 119 Days from Application Received to Oath Ceremony.

I am a United States citizen!

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