my other trump salute thread

[OriZ 3,157]

That wraps it up with them. Only givin ya my favs so we don't spam this place too too much lol

[Jacque67 7,328]

Nope not Jewish.

Here ya go

I'll split it into 3's only because of the way it posts them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhrCc8VCHns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17VudJ6lr4k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qH4qyi1-Ys

Doubtful. I am watching this on TV. Such an intelligent crowd, especially that college kid. NOT. Morons.

Oh, so it must be the video director then ... Heavy on the schmaltz (pardon my Yiddish!)

Ya think about the trump incident? Yea, they are all putzes therefore easy to manipulate. You don't think it would be beneath someone on Trumps campaign team, to slip someone a couple of bucks in exchange for shouting anti trump stuff. Publicity wet dream. And Veronica Kowalkowsky? Who chose her to be interviewed...

[Jacque67 7,328]

Cheers again Oriz. Gotten shower and head out for a while. I"ll listen to them in the car in a bit. Tally Ho!

[OriZ 3,157]

Cheers again Oriz. Gotten shower and head out for a while. I"ll listen to them in the car in a bit. Tally Ho!

Forgot one

[Jacque67 7,328]

Well I like the music, but once again am not keen on the videos. Is this a country music thing? I don't know-first time I have listened to such music. Thanks for the share.

[OriZ 3,157]

Well I like the music, but once again am not keen on the videos. Is this a country music thing? I don't know-first time I have listened to such music. Thanks for the share.

I don't know. I don't think much of videos in general. Rascal Flatts sure does put on a good show in concert though. Front row seats for Sep 3

[Jacque67 7,328]

I don't know. I don't think much of videos in general. Rascal Flatts sure does put on a good show in concert though. Front row seats for Sep 3

Yes. I can imagine the concerts would be good-lots of chances for the audience to sing along. Where is the concert you are going to being held?

[OriZ 3,157]

Yes. I can imagine the concerts would be good-lots of chances for the audience to sing along. Where is the concert you are going to being held?

Champlain Valley Fair here in VT.

My wife has seen them in concert several times before in Milwaukee and even met them. I have yet to see them but she's gone to many more concerts than me. She's seen Lonestar and Brad Paisley and Blake Shelton at a time when neither of them were really famous - Paisley was moreso than Blake who actually opened for him. And she's seen Tim Mcgraw(not sure if you've heard of him but he's Faith Hill's husband and another very famous country singer) - one of the times was with me at Summerfest(the world's largest music festival - also in Milwaukee) in 2008.

I just wish I could take her to rock concerts lol

Edited March 12, 2016 by OriZ

[Rob L 3,811]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cNGSJbE6JT4

Here is some "real country" George Jones

[Jacque67 7,328]

Champlain Valley Fair here in VT.

My wife has seen them in concert several times before in Milwaukee and even met them. I have yet to see them but she's gone to many more concerts than me. She's seen Lonestar and Brad Paisley and Blake Shelton at a time when neither of them were really famous - Paisley was moreso than Blake who actually opened for him. And she's seen Tim Mcgraw(not sure if you've heard of him but he's Faith Hill's husband and another very famous country singer) - one of the times was with me at Summerfest(the world's largest music festival - also in Milwaukee) in 2008.

I just wish I could take her to rock concerts lol

Why can't you? I thought you were a man of very persuasive powers;)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cNGSJbE6JT4

Here is some "real country" George Jones

Ok. Will listen later. Getting my haircut.

[Jacque67 7,328]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8hvu_pv-dragon-ash-grateful-days_news

Just remembered this. Old school Japanese hip hop. Can you see it over there? Google dragon ash grateful days if you can't. This is comic gold!

[Jacque67 7,328]

[OriZ 3,157]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cNGSJbE6JT4

Here is some "real country" George Jones

Take it you like some "older country"...that's fine, we like George Straight and Alabama(she's seen them before too).

[Rob L 3,811]

Take it you like some "older country"...that's fine, we like George Straight and Alabama(she's seen them before too).

I like many types of music, but I have a particular interest in poetry and lyrics. "Old country" was a great genre for storytelling through song. It us no mistake the Bob Dylan and Leonard Cohen tapped into Nashville

[Rob L 3,811]

What Are Trump Fans Really Afraid to Say?

By LINDY WEST

nytimes.com | March 11, 2016

RHINESTONES twinkling around the perimeter of her shades, cornsilk curls undaunted by the Pensacola sun, Elizabeth Kemper, a supporter of Donald J. Trump, is all certainty. She is fed up. You know, this country is so dang political correct, she tells a CNN reporter. Im afraid to say what I really feel, you know?

On her shirt, a silhouette of Mr. Trumps head nestles in the protective crook of the state of Florida, his face turned stalwartly eastward, away from Mexico, his Mordor.

Ms. Kemper is blazing, passionate, incredulous. I think this country better go back to some of those values. Some of the values my parents grew up with, my grandparents grew up with, she says. Whatever was wrong, they could point it out and tell you.

The notion that Mr. Trump voices ideas that his supporters are afraid to express, vital truths lost to the scourge of political correctness, has been a rhetorical through-line of his campaign. Mr. Trump says exactly what he thinks, his fans gush about immigrants, about Muslims, about women a bygone pleasure now denied most Americans.

Its an odd construction. Once you say, He says what Im afraid to say, and point to a man who is essentially a 24/7 fire hose of unequivocal bigotry, youve said what youre afraid to say, so how afraid could you have been in the first place? The phrase is a dodge, a way to acknowledge that youre aware its a little naughty to be a misogynist xenophobe in 2016, while letting like-minded people know, with a conspiratorial wink, that youre only pretending to care. Its a wild grab for plausible deniability how can I be a white supremacist when Im just your nice grandpa? an artifact of a culture in which some people believe that its worse to be called racist than to be racist.

Trump fans are flattering themselves if they think that, say, declining to shout slurs at black people or sexually harass female co-workers is some form of noble restraint. Not only is that a pathetically low bar, many do not seem to be clearing it. Video of a Trump rally in Kentucky on Super Tuesday shows a student named Shiya Nwanguma being shoved and jostled. She reported being called a racial epithet as well as an abusive term for the female anatomy. Video from a North Carolina rally on Wednesday shows a white Trump supporter punching a black protester in the face. One glance at your worst relatives Facebook page, one toe dipped into the toxic sludge-fire that is pro-Trump Twitter, and its abundantly obvious that no one is holding much back.

Its tempting to declare that the Internet isnt real life, that online hate isnt a credible barometer for offline behavior. But human beings built the Internet, we populate it, we set its tone, and collectively weve designated it a major engine of discourse. Its been my experience that anonymity makes people more honest, more themselves. If you applaud the sentiment that when Mexico sends its people, theyre not sending their best, and theyre bringing drugs, theyre bringing crime, theyre rapists, from the mouth of a presidential candidate, why should I believe you arent saying worse in the privacy of your home?

Mr. Trump isnt saying anything that his supporters wouldnt. He hasnt let an explicit racial slur slip on the campaign trail. Its the other way around. Theyre laying bare the subtext of his speech and policies, revealing how they appear to angry white people primed and frustrated by the past century of Republican dog-whistling. Theyre saying what Mr. Trump cant.

Regardless, even if Trump supporters were managing to toe some politically correct line with their words, they speak as clear as day with their votes.

A voter whose preferred immigration policy involves a wall and a list makes it clear where he stands on the humanity of refugees. A voter who thinks its perfectly reasonable not to immediately disavow the support of a white nationalist makes it clear where she stands on the Black Lives Matter movement. A voter who feels well represented by a candidate who has called women fat pigs and dogs makes it clear he is not to be trusted when it comes to womens health.

It doesnt take clairvoyance, or even tremendous mental dexterity, to see what Mr. Trump means by make America great again. It just takes a history book. Many of us remember what America used to be like, and dont care to go back.

Some of Mr. Trumps loudest critics come from the groups hes built his campaign on demonizing black people, Latinos, Muslims, women historically marginalized groups whose voices are reaching wider audiences thanks to the democratizing power of the Internet. Political correctness is construed, deliberately and effectively, by its opponents as an attack on fun, but its really an attack on the status quo that made Mr. Trump both very wealthy and a viable presidential candidate.

We cannot ignore the fact that the populist sensation of this election hasnt been Bernie Sanders. Its been a racist, nationalist demagogue-for-hire with no sincere ideology beyond his own vanity. Mr. Trump is a cipher; his voters love him because he does nothing but hold up a mirror to their basest prejudices and bask in the feedback loop of narcissism. Theyre not afraid; theyre leading Mr. Trump as much as following him. They called him into being, not the other way around.