Trump asks backers to swear their support, vows to broaden torture laws

[Rob L 3,811]

Actually there's quite a few showing that but that wasn't even the point(wanna see my shocked look that it went right over people's heads?). The point is even the support he does have stems mainly from Clinton being so bad, and not from people liking him.

What part of "Maybe moreso in the republican party against the other 3 he has some real support, but in the polls for general elections 80% of his supporters or those who say they will vote for him don't care about what he stands for, some of them probably don't even know. It is nothing but a reflection of their feelings towards Obama/Clinton. " was not clear?

Anyway, I guess you should also hold Farrakhan's support for Obama against him as well.

Its difficult to argue with logic like this

[eieio 1,594]

Three out of the 4 top candidates from both sides are anti-establishment. Trump,Cruz,Sanders.

I believe Sanders and Trump supporters have much in common. Mostly….they are fed up with "politics as usual".

[ExPatty 502]

Three out of the 4 top candidates from both sides are anti-establishment. Trump,Cruz,Sanders.

I believe Sanders and Trump supporters have much in common. Mostly….they are fed up with "politics as usual".

That's why this race would be best if it's between Trump or Cruz on one side and Sanders on the other. This would be the most honest election. Hillary is a shill, she isn't a real candidate. Trump and Cruz are. You may not like them, they may be worse than stalin and hitler combined, but they are genuinely picked. And sanders is the same for the dems.

[eieio 1,594]

That's why this race would be best if it's between Trump or Cruz on one side and Sanders on the other. This would be the most honest election. Hillary is a shill, she isn't a real candidate. Trump and Cruz are. You may not like them, they may be worse than stalin and hitler combined, but they are genuinely picked. And sanders is the same for the dems.

I understand your point, however I would rather have Hillary as the nomination rather than Sanders. You never know what could happen on election night. To big of a risk to have Sanders on the ticket. If he gets elected…..he will do whatever he can to turn the US into a third world country….all in the name of equality.

At least with Clinton her decisions will mostly be made by the groups that funded her. Everyone knows she is just saying whatever it takes to get elected and she will not be held accountable for anything she says on the campaign trail. Her voters will be so pleased with "first woman president" they could care less what she actually does.

[ExPatty 502]

I understand your point, however I would rather have Hillary as the nomination rather than Sanders. You never know what could happen on election night. To big of a risk to have Sanders on the ticket. If he gets elected…..he will do whatever he can to turn the US into a third world country….all in the name of equality.

At least with Clinton her decisions will mostly be made by the groups that funded her. Everyone knows she is just saying whatever it takes to get elected and she will not be held accountable for anything she says on the campaign trail. Her voters will be so pleased with "first woman president" they could care less what she actually does.

It's true she is a patsy for her masters, but as you point out, the oligarchs wield enough power that I don't think Sanders would get much of his policies in place anyway. That's also why a Trump presidency isn't as scary as it may sound. He'd hit walls constantly, and not just ones on the border.

Republicans hold a keener sense of the plutocracy that the US has turned into, but democrats are getting on board as well. That's why I have a hard time resenting Sanders supporters. Many are "obama phone" type people but many see what has happened with politics and they don't like it.

The country is waking up. Graphics like this scare politicians, but I find them invigorating.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Now I am getting scared..this is not funny

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump on Saturday led a mass rally in taking a pledge affirming their commitment to voting for him, and vowed to broaden existing laws regarding the interrogation of captured terrorist suspects.

The scene unfolded during a raucous rally in Orlando, Florida, that featured frequent interruptions by protesters.

"Let's do a pledge. Who likes me in this room?" Trump asked the crowd. "I've never done this before. Can I have a pledge? A swearing? Raise your right hand."

The Republican front-runner then had the audience repeat after him.

"I do solemnly swear that I, no matter how I feel, no matter what the conditions, if there are hurricanes or whatever, will vote on or before the 12th for Donald J. Trump for President."

The crowd ended the pledge with cheers.

"Now I know. Don't forget you all raised your hands. You swore. Bad things happen if you don't live up to what you just did," Trump said before continuing with his speech.

The Florida Republican primary is on March 15.

I watched that rally and the one last night in North Carolina..

The one last night had 10+ interruptions from protesters who had themselves randomly planted throughout the audience and spaced out the interruptions in about five minute intervals when Trump was at the climax of making an actual point. The pledges were done as a joke and he tried to skip them at the NC rally.

His main points of what he said he would do as president:

- He would place a heavy tax on American companies that moved work off shore on any products or services that they then tried to import back into the country.

- Use the trade deficit with the main countries (Mexico and China) to strike new deals to get preferential treatment -

- Something about H1B visas the protesters interrupted him and he tends to wander into talking about himself when interrupted and never finished the point

- The wall, the wall.. the wall is going to stop the drugs and illegal immigration.

- Stated that he would stay within the laws dealing with "detainees" but would keep Guantanamo open and would be less concerned with collateral damage to create a more even play field when fighting ISIS

- Wants to get rid of common core

- Get rid of Obamacare

The first two are his bread and butter and the ones where I think he knows what he is talking about - he visited them several times and talked a bit at length of why the problem exists and why politicians ignore the problem in this country.. But the basic idea: If the EU,Japan, and China are willing to bend over to get a few contracts from Iran then as the country with the largest market on the planet we should be able to play the same game as the rest of them and leverage access to our markets...

Not exactly the free market ideals conservatives idolize - closer to what the first Clinton did though behind the scenes in a much less caustic manor

Edited March 10, 2016 by OnMyWayID

[smilesammich 10,727]

would be less concerned with collateral damage to create a more even play field when fighting ISIS

yes, let's be less concerned with killing innocent people. it's not like the families and children left behind harbor any sort of resentment towards the us, ultimately creating more isis recruits.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

"Clinton had credible charges made that he raped women (the molesting was confirmed) "

If you don't understand the difference between rape and consensual sex, I'm worried for you.

Clinton was indicted and went to jail for rape? Post it

[Dakine10 5,452]

yes, let's be less concerned with killing innocent people. it's not like the families and children left behind harbor any sort of resentment towards the us, ultimately creating more isis recruits.

I have a hard time seeing how killing innocent people, rounding up our own citizens, building a wall, and bullying the rest of the world is going to "make America great again".

Would it make us powerful - maybe. Feared - yes. But great? That means something different.

Edited March 10, 2016 by Dakine10

[smilesammich 10,727]

I have a hard time seeing how killing innocent people, rounding up our own citizens, building a wall, and bullying the rest of the world is going to "make America great again".

Would it make us powerful - maybe. Feared - yes. But great? That means something different.

partly why i'm so dumbfounded at the trump supporters who claim he is anti establishment. in every presidential election i can remember, the establishment has used the misinformed paranoia of the mindless masses to their advantage. trump is no different.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Actually there's quite a few showing that but that wasn't even the point(wanna see my shocked look that it went right over people's heads?). The point is even the support he does have stems mainly from Clinton being so bad, and not from people liking him.

What part of "Maybe moreso in the republican party against the other 3 he has some real support, but in the polls for general elections 80% of his supporters or those who say they will vote for him don't care about what he stands for, some of them probably don't even know. It is nothing but a reflection of their feelings towards Obama/Clinton. " was not clear?

Anyway, I guess you should also hold Farrakhan's support for Obama against him as well.

But he's made his stances pretty clear:

Mexico is sending rapist and murderers

Banning Muslims and going after their families

Mocking Asians

And the list goes on

If it's a reflection of their feelings, why not put them behind a viable candidate instead of one who does nothing but supports division within our country? Hell, even Ben Carson was saying basically the same things as Trump but didn't get the same following.

And remind me, when was Farrakhan a leader of the group that murdered 1000s of people here in the US? I'm confused...

[Dakine10 5,452]

partly why i'm so dumbfounded at the trump supporters who claim he is anti establishment. in every presidential election i can remember, the establishment has used the misinformed paranoia of the mindless masses to their advantage. trump is no different.

The one big difference is Trump has turned out to be better at it than most. He may not have the political experience, but he knows how to work the crowd.

Edited March 10, 2016 by Dakine10

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Clinton was indicted and went to jail for rape? Post it

[smilesammich 10,727]

The one big difference is Trump has turned out to be better at it than most. He may not have the political experience, but he knows how to work the crowd.

right, and i don't think he's a natural. i think he's been doing his homework..

[Dakine10 5,452]

right, and i don't think he's a natural. i think he's been doing his homework..

He's learned by studying and emulating the "best" in the business. No doubt about that. Won't mention the guy's name again though, seems to ruffle some feathers.