Incest: an age-old taboo

[Caladan 19]

God, what a mess of a thread.

Couple quick points:

1) Being tolerant or even supportive of gay people doesn't imply no moral standards at all, or no belief in judgment. It just implies a disagreement over where the line between acceptable and unacceptable behavior is.

2) Historically, the incest taboo runs a lot deeper than the taboo against homosexuality. Not that that matters all that much.

3) There is a very significant risk of genetic diseases. Heck, you get this even with cousins intermarrying. Too many recessive genes hopping around madly.

4) You know what? If you live in a big city? Total lack of people coming up telling your children to be gay.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

4) You know what? If you live in a big city? Total lack of people coming up telling your children to be gay.

LOL

[Jenn! 918]

4) You know what? If you live in a big city? Total lack of people coming up telling your children to be gay.

LOL

Whaddya mean? The gays were over our place just the other day with all of their pamphlets trying to convert my husband and I. Sure is tempting....

[Ban Hammer 13,345]

wow....the green eyed one has allot of incanada in her .......

hey now! i miss incanada

4) You know what? If you live in a big city? Total lack of people coming up telling your children to be gay.

LOL

Whaddya mean? The gays were over our place just the other day with all of their pamphlets trying to convert my husband and I. Sure is tempting....

imagine that.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

hey now! i miss incanada

Like a plague of boils, swiftly followed by locusts

[Ban Hammer 13,345]

hey now! i miss incanada

Like a plague of boils, swiftly followed by locusts

awww i know deep down you miss her too

[Caladan 19]

Also, Greece didn't fall because of being gay. Unless by "fall" you mean "repulsed the Persians (n.b. for those who get their history from the movies: Athens's navy was very important in smacking Xerxes back)", "conquered the known world", "invented a tradition of philosophy that lasts till the present day."

The Greeks lost to the Romans not because they were too busy painting their nails to put together an army, but because (for some value of "because") the city-state + alliance mode wasn't strong enough to defeat a very well organized Roman republic.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Also, Greece didn't fall because of being gay. Unless by "fall" you mean "repulsed the Persians (n.b. for those who get their history from the movies: Athens's navy was very important in smacking Xerxes back)", "conquered the known world", "invented a tradition of philosophy that lasts till the present day."

The Greeks lost to the Romans not because they were too busy painting their nails to put together an army, but because (for some value of "because") the city-state + alliance mode wasn't strong enough to defeat a very well organized Roman republic.

Also partly due to the succession wars following the death of Alexander.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

4) You know what? If you live in a big city? Total lack of people coming up telling your children to be gay.

LOL

Whaddya mean? The gays were over our place just the other day with all of their pamphlets trying to convert my husband and I. Sure is tempting....

The only pamphlets that people have tried to dump at my house thus far are those pesky Watchtowers. I didn't think those where gay people bringing them by.

[Jenn! 918]

4) You know what? If you live in a big city? Total lack of people coming up telling your children to be gay.

LOL

Whaddya mean? The gays were over our place just the other day with all of their pamphlets trying to convert my husband and I. Sure is tempting....

The only pamphlets that people have tried to dump at my house thus far are those pesky Watchtowers. I didn't think those where gay people bringing them by.

What are Watchtowers??

You never know, be careful! The gays are sneaky with the subliminal messages!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

4) You know what? If you live in a big city? Total lack of people coming up telling your children to be gay.

LOL

Whaddya mean? The gays were over our place just the other day with all of their pamphlets trying to convert my husband and I. Sure is tempting....

The only pamphlets that people have tried to dump at my house thus far are those pesky Watchtowers. I didn't think those where gay people bringing them by.

What are Watchtowers??

Jehovah's Witnesses ring a bell? (pun intended)

[Jenn! 918]

4) You know what? If you live in a big city? Total lack of people coming up telling your children to be gay.

LOL

Whaddya mean? The gays were over our place just the other day with all of their pamphlets trying to convert my husband and I. Sure is tempting....

The only pamphlets that people have tried to dump at my house thus far are those pesky Watchtowers. I didn't think those where gay people bringing them by.

What are Watchtowers??

Jehovah's Witnesses ring a bell? (pun intended)

I've never had the pleasure of receiving a Watchtower brochure.

Ok, I'm with you then, I'm pretty sure they're not gay.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

4) You know what? If you live in a big city? Total lack of people coming up telling your children to be gay.

LOL

Whaddya mean? The gays were over our place just the other day with all of their pamphlets trying to convert my husband and I. Sure is tempting....

The only pamphlets that people have tried to dump at my house thus far are those pesky Watchtowers. I didn't think those where gay people bringing them by.

What are Watchtowers??

Jehovah's Witnesses ring a bell? (pun intended)

I've never had the pleasure of receiving a Watchtower brochure.

Lucky you. They have a Kindom Hall less than half a mile from my house. I think I'll head on over there during Halloween just so they know what it's like...

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Also, Greece didn't fall because of being gay. Unless by "fall" you mean "repulsed the Persians (n.b. for those who get their history from the movies: Athens's navy was very important in smacking Xerxes back)", "conquered the known world", "invented a tradition of philosophy that lasts till the present day."

The Greeks lost to the Romans not because they were too busy painting their nails to put together an army, but because (for some value of "because") the city-state + alliance mode wasn't strong enough to defeat a very well organized Roman republic.

It was never alleged that any civilization fell because of gays. Hedonism was the term used. There are substructural reasons why they could not get their act together, but that is usually emphaiszed by social anthos and historians, not straight historians.

I noticed no asking for proof was required for comments made countering the hedonism theory. They're simply accepted as fact.

Edited March 16, 2007 by Green-eyed girl

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

When we lived in our first place in California (back when I was waiting for my AOS & EAD), I had a couple of those people show up on my doorstep – 2 leaflet-armed women in Sunday dresses (the dresses that young girls are forced to wear to attend church). They seemed strangely insistent on getting into my apartment and “helping me” with domestic stuff. They don’t seem to want to take no for an answer either – it was very awkward.

I think Rab C. Nesbitt (character in an old BBC sitcom of the same name) had the best idea for scaring them off – opening the door bare naked and wielding a butcher knife