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Filed: Other Country: Israel
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Invasions were assisted by the decline in cohesion and discipline brought on by increasing societal hedonism.

Where are the historical parallels there I wonder...

Give me your evidence to the contrary, and I'll give you mine.

You're assuming I'm disagreeing with you - I would imagine you had something specific in mind when you stated it.. otherwise why say it?

Ok, if you agree with me, what is the basis for your agreement? I'm not trying to be difficult, but as a former academic, big on the Socratic method. I will give away as little as possible and let you do the work.

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Filed: Other Country: United Kingdom
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So...
Invasions were assisted by the decline in cohesion and discipline brought on by increasing societal hedonism.

Where are the historical parallels there I wonder...

Give me your evidence to the contrary, and I'll give you mine.

You're assuming I'm disagreeing with you - I would imagine you had something specific in mind when you stated it.. otherwise why say it?

Ok, if you agree with me, what is the basis for your agreement? I'm not trying to be difficult, but as a former academic, big on the Socratic method. I will give away as little as possible and let you do the work.

I wonder why you are so defensive. Sorry, I'm not playing a game with you here - if you don't want to clarify a specific argument with specific examples then that's fine with me, but then you can't be too surprised if people don't take it seriously.

Filed: Other Country: Israel
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So...
Invasions were assisted by the decline in cohesion and discipline brought on by increasing societal hedonism.

Where are the historical parallels there I wonder...

Give me your evidence to the contrary, and I'll give you mine.

You're assuming I'm disagreeing with you - I would imagine you had something specific in mind when you stated it.. otherwise why say it?

Ok, if you agree with me, what is the basis for your agreement? I'm not trying to be difficult, but as a former academic, big on the Socratic method. I will give away as little as possible and let you do the work.

I wonder why you are so defensive. Sorry, I'm not playing a game with you here - if you don't want to clarify a specific argument with specific examples then that's fine with me, but then you can't be too surprised if people don't take it seriously.

I'm not being defensive. I'm sure I'm not the only one with a differing argument on this thread. Am I the only one that is required to post specific evidence? Yes. Is it important if someone here doesn't take something seriously? No, but that doesn't make it any less true.

Filed: Other Country: United Kingdom
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So...
Invasions were assisted by the decline in cohesion and discipline brought on by increasing societal hedonism.

Where are the historical parallels there I wonder...

Give me your evidence to the contrary, and I'll give you mine.

You're assuming I'm disagreeing with you - I would imagine you had something specific in mind when you stated it.. otherwise why say it?

Ok, if you agree with me, what is the basis for your agreement? I'm not trying to be difficult, but as a former academic, big on the Socratic method. I will give away as little as possible and let you do the work.

I wonder why you are so defensive. Sorry, I'm not playing a game with you here - if you don't want to clarify a specific argument with specific examples then that's fine with me, but then you can't be too surprised if people don't take it seriously.

I'm not being defensive. I'm sure I'm not the only one with a differing argument on this thread. Am I the only one that is required to post specific evidence? Yes. Is it important if someone here doesn't take something seriously? No, but that doesn't make it any less true.

What I'm getting at is that if you make these broad brush statements about specific things and don't clarify your argument with specific examples to illustrate your point, then all that will happen (and indeed as has happened here) is that the debate boils down "I am right, you are wrong" - inevitably ending in a contest between who has the most colorful language.

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I just wanted to vormit when I saw this two male french kissing each other. Ewwww...I went home, and couldn't sleep that night. I looked in the mirror, and asked " What did I saw? ". Seriously, I have nothing against homosexual but please don't show your intimacy in public. I feel like vormiting, and don't even want to touch them. I'm not comfortable with one, not a matter of hating them. I wouldn't throw oranges, knives, insults at them...My vormit just wants to come out.

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Filed: Country: United Kingdom
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I just wanted to vormit when I saw this two male french kissing each other. Ewwww...I went home, and couldn't sleep that night. I looked in the mirror, and asked " What did I saw? ". Seriously, I have nothing against homosexual but please don't show your intimacy in public. I feel like vormiting, and don't even want to touch them. I'm not comfortable with one, not a matter of hating them. I wouldn't throw oranges, knives, insults at them...My vormit just wants to come out.

That's very sad....

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Filed: Other Country: Israel
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What I'm getting at is that if you make these broad brush statements about specific things and don't clarify your argument with specific examples to illustrate your point, then all that will happen (and indeed as has happened here) is that the debate boils down "I am right, you are wrong" - inevitably ending in a contest between who has the most colorful language.

Lots of broad brush statements have been made. You have pointed mine out because it bothers you. It does boil down to "I'm right, you're wrong". History, culture and law is what I do for a living. I know that each has varying interpretations. It has never been my intent to change anyone's mind, and certainly, mine hasn't been changed either. I have a pov, I express it, you can take it or leave it, as I can anyone else's I so choose. I'm here for banter, not for followers. Now, that would be different if you were in my classroom, but you're not, so lighten up. I gave you a link regarding the muxes, I told you about the Lakota having similar perspectives. History is there for anyone to explore. Go explore!

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Cambodia
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Sorry Green-Eye Girl. I don't really like history. We need people like you to teach the past to the present to not repeat in the future.

And I, myself, like to solve physical problems to make life better because I am an Engineer.

Edited by consolemaster

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