Fewer Democrats Are Voting This Year In (Surprise!) States With Strict New Voter Laws

[eieio 1,594]

Evidence? Where is the evidence?

I will agree that the evidence on fraud is difficult to gather and prove. The main benefit of voter id is to increase confidence in the results. It will be a pretty worthless system if to many people believe fraud is widespread. The benefits greatly outweigh the handful of people that are to stupid to not have a photo id. Those opposing voter id are supporters of voting fraud. No other way to look at it.

[Spamgeneral 46]

I will agree that the evidence on fraud is difficult to gather and prove. The main benefit of voter id is to increase confidence in the results. It will be a pretty worthless system if to many people believe fraud is widespread. The benefits greatly outweigh the handful of people that are to stupid to not have a photo id. Those opposing voter id are supporters of voting fraud. No other way to look at it.

Are you getting a photo ID?

[Expat1 971]

Great so Hildabeast wins by default since Trump is a thief, a liar and a commie who wants free healthcare for all.

+1 expat.

For the record I can't stand either of them. It's a pick your poison election year.

Are you getting a photo ID?

What kind of moron can't or won't get a photo ID?

[Rob L 3,811]

For the record I can't stand either of them. It's a pick your poison election year.

You are not understanding the reality of these laws, a name change (marriage) or address change would make a mismatch with the voter ID. Because voterid needs to be updated months before an election, many legitimate voters are excluded on tho technicality

What kind of moron can't or won't get a photo ID?

[TBoneTX 45,291]

Couldn't an intending voter bring along a marriage certificate or verification of changed address, and either be approved on the spot or be permitted to cast a provisional ballot?

In Texas (if I understand the concept correctly, which in its entirety I probably don't), early voters can vote at any precinct in their city or county. An address-change on voting day, when people must vote in their assigned precinct, might throw a monkey wrench into the works. However, the people (whom I've known) have simply voted as though they still lived where they were registered, and they've started cleanly thereafter by registering their new address.

[Expat1 971]

For the record I can't stand either of them. It's a pick your poison election year.

You are not understanding the reality of these laws, a name change (marriage) or address change would make a mismatch with the voter ID. Because voterid needs to be updated months before an election, many legitimate voters are excluded on tho technicality

What kind of moron can't or won't get a photo ID?

Republicans also move and get married. Wonder why they're not effected.

[yuna628 9,676]

For the record I can't stand either of them. It's a pick your poison election year.

What kind of moron can't or won't get a photo ID?

Believe it or not, for some people, obtaining a photo ID can be difficult. I note this a lot in the elderly, but when I was younger me and my sister even had trouble.. this is because state laws can be really stupid and non-flexible.

I had to go through the process of trying to get my mom an ID last year and it was an incredible hassle. Some people have given up completely under the red tape. If she didn't have anyone there to help her, she wouldn't have been able to get one, which she needed to have medication. None of these archaic requirements in some states, have nothing to do with married names or moving.. but a lot to do with the requirements to have other identifying items (all of which in some cases you can't obtain without an ID in the first place.. and if you haven't got that to begin with.. then you aren't getting an ID.. and it goes around in circles from there).

It was easier getting my husband a driver's license than it was to get my 70+ mom an ID in this state. I'm talking weeks of paperwork, going back and forth with her to different agencies, waiting periods, and mounds of red tape.

Edited March 6, 2016 by yuna628

[Expat1 971]

Believe it or not, for some people, obtaining a photo ID can be difficult. I note this a lot in the elderly, but when I was younger me and my sister even had trouble.. this is because state laws can be really stupid and non-flexible.

I had to go through the process of trying to get my mom an ID last year and it was an incredible hassle. Some people have given up completely under the red tape. If she didn't have anyone there to help her, she wouldn't have been able to get one, which she needed to have medication. None of these archaic requirements in some states, have nothing to do with married names or moving.. but a lot to do with the requirements to have other identifying items (all of which in some cases you can't obtain without an ID in the first place.. and if you haven't got that to begin with.. then you aren't getting an ID.. and it goes around in circles from there).

It was easier getting my husband a driver's license than it was to get my 70+ mom an ID in this state. I'm talking weeks of paperwork, going back and forth with her to different agencies, waiting periods, and mounds of red tape.

Wait - so age 70 is the first time your mom ever needed an ID? Ever?

[Spamgeneral 46]

Wait - so age 70 is the first time your mom ever needed an ID? Ever?

Gasp! Imagine that!

[Rob L 3,811]

Republicans also move and get married. Wonder why they're not effected.

Women tend to be democrats, women change their name

[yuna628 9,676]

Wait - so age 70 is the first time your mom ever needed an ID? Ever?

Yep!

[Dashinka 24,499]

This seems to be a stretch from a cause and effect standpoint. Maybe the reason the Democrat numbers are down is due to the lack of enthusiasm for their choices. You also have to factor in which of the state's that voted so far are open or closed primaries and how many Dems voted in the Repub primary/caucus instead. Not a real clear cut analysis unless of course you are very much against voter ID laws. In my opinion voting is a privilege since it entails proper registration as well as being governed by age requirements, therefore it is the responsibility of the citizen eligible to vote to have the proper requirements necessary to vote. If the parties want to help out then why don't they put together a plan to assist those that do not have identification get it, similar to how they run registration drives (also a requirement to vote).

Edited March 6, 2016 by Bill & Katya

[Expat1 971]

Yep!

Excuse me if I don't believe that in 70 years she couldn't get any sort of ID

[Expat1 971]

Women tend to be democrats, women change their name

Funny, because these are some cool demographics:

https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-in-debt/economic-demographics-democrats/

The Democratic Party has a significant advantage with women. Thirty-seven percent of women affiliate with the Democratic Party, giving them a sizable advantage over the 24 percent who identify as Republicans. Marriage tends to have a significant impact on how a woman votes. Unmarried women vote Democrat about 62 percent of the time, while married women tend to be evenly split between the parties.

That's less than 50% dude, and the women who "change their name" are evenly split. You still haven't adequately explained why democrats are affected so much more than republicans. Your name change theory is a statistical dud.

[Expat1 971]

Gasp! Imagine that!

You can put a "sock" in it anytime you can get to it dude