UAlbany students who faked racist bus attack to be charged

[Expat1 971]

i don't find that incident comparable. trayvon hid and was not doing anything illegal when he was confronted by his killer.

Except for that whole what was it? Yeah that "Ground and Pound" thing. There was that tiny (but not insignificant) detail. He didn't have to confront him (AKA as "that cracker") at all. Fixed your post. Stick to the witness testimony.

Edited February 26, 2016 by Expat1

[smilesammich 10,727]

He didn't have to confront him at all.

that's what i'm saying. the killer didn't have to confront his prey at all.

[ExPatty 502]

i don't find that incident comparable. trayvon was not doing anything illegal when he was confronted by his killer.

You think scott was let off from conviction because it's legal to shoot people rifling through cars?

Remember all the protests after scott wasn't convicted? All the people who thought he must have killed this white teen because he was a racist? Me, neither.

that's what i'm saying. the killer didn't have to confront his prey at all.

Are you talking about GZ now or Scott? Exactly.

Edited February 26, 2016 by ExPatty

[smilesammich 10,727]

You think scott was let off from conviction because it's legal to shoot people rifling through cars?

Remember all the protests after scott wasn't convicted? All the people who thought he must have killed this white teen because he was a racist? Me, neither.

Are you talking about GZ now or Scott? Exactly.

i think when the dead person is cast a criminal worthless low life piece of , it's a lot easier to get let off for killing them.

i don't remember the protests after scott wasn't convicted, and like i said i don't feel the need to compare the two. i was never talking about scott.

i'm talking about a grown adult, following a teenager through his own neighborhood and that UNDERAGE CHILD loosing his life FOR NOT REACTING PROPERLY TO A STRANGE ADULT FOLLOWING THEM.

[ExPatty 502]

don't remember the protests after scott wasn't convicted, and like i said i don't feel the need to compare the two.

No, you don't, because there were none. This despite Scott not even being attacked! GZ was actually attacked, had the bruises to show it, and witness testimony saying he was on his back being beaten. Meanwhile scott simply says somebody rushed at him, yet he was acquitted, and yet you still think if GZ had been black and done the same to a white person he would have been convicted. So I find you a case of that happening minus the actual assault GZ unequivocally received, and you think it's not comparable. This is because you hate the comparison, because it plainly refutes your view.

i'm talking about a grown adult, following a teenager through his own neighborhood and that UNDERAGE CHILD loosing his life FOR NOT REACTING PROPERLY TO A STRANGE ADULT FOLLOWING THEM.

I am confused. Are we talking about Scott? Because in that case we also have an underage child losing his life for acting improperly when a strange adult confronted him.

[smilesammich 10,727]

No, you don't, because there were none. This despite Scott not even being attacked! GZ was actually attacked, had the bruises to show it, and witness testimony saying he was on his back being beaten. Meanwhile scott simply says somebody rushed at him, yet he was acquitted, and yet you still think if GZ had been black and done the same to a white person he would have been convicted. So I find you a case of that happening minus the actual assault GZ unequivocally received, and you think it's not comparable. This is because you hate the comparison, because it plainly refutes your view.

I am confused. Are we talking about Scott? Because in that case we also have an underage child losing his life for acting improperly when a strange adult confronted him.

you're still bringing up a case that i don't find comparable, and i find it incomparable because the situation is not the same, not because it proves anything one way or the other in trayvon's case. it's is incomparable because like i said before trayvon was not doing anything illegal when he was confronted by gz and gz told him to 'stay put' for the cops to arrive. i know you see the difference between the two. but i think you're trying to bask in a 'gotcha' moment that simply isn't there.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Amazing how Janelle and I are told we're obsessed with race but once again here we are. Trayvon Martin has to be the scariest dude on earth for some folks here.

What's interesting here is, most folks here who are siding with GZ have openly admitting to reacting in a more violent way if they were in the same situation. I've even seen a member flat out say they'd pull out their gun if a black person even approached them, and yet TM is chided for not a.running away, b. calling 911(which many members here don't rely on since they carry a gun and actually make fun of it, c.trying to hold a conversation with a creep in the middle of the night. Self defense isn't an option for him, why I still don't know.

So why do the rules flip flop in the case of TM? A grown man stalking a teenager. For the record, he never asked questions, never identified himself, and did everything in his power to force a confrontation that was going to go sideways because he took no action to prevent it from happening any other way. And he continues to have run ins with the law.

[Dakine10 5,452]

GZ is a sociopath and pathological liar. Anyone who supported the guy and doesn't realize they got duped, they are probably beyond help at this point.

IDK what Treyvon Martin did or didn't do, only Zimmerman knows that. I've yet to see anything come out of his mouth that wasn't self serving or an outright lie. Why on earth would anyone think his account of those events be any different.

Zimmerman lied. The attackers in this case lied. That's the only parallel I see here. Criminals often lie.

[Teddy B 17,252]

GZ is a sociopath and pathological liar. Anyone who supported the guy and doesn't realize they got duped, they are probably beyond help at this point.

IDK what Treyvon Martin did or didn't do, only Zimmerman knows that. I've yet to see anything come out of his mouth that wasn't self serving or an outright lie. Why on earth would anyone think his account of those events be any different.

Zimmerman lied. The attackers in this case lied. That's the only parallel I see here. Criminals often lie.

The prosecutors blew that case. They had enough for a manslaughter conviction but went for murder instead, which they didn't have. I think the pressure from higher ups (Obama and Holder etc) to put GZ behind bars and throw away the key had a part in that as well.

Edited February 26, 2016 by Teddy B

[Janelle2002 3,865]

i don't find that incident comparable. trayvon was not doing anything illegal when he was confronted by his killer.

Yes he was. It's called walking while black.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

i think when the dead person is cast a criminal worthless low life piece of ####, it's a lot easier to get let off for killing them.

i don't remember the protests after scott wasn't convicted, and like i said i don't feel the need to compare the two. i was never talking about scott.

i'm talking about a grown adult, following a teenager through his own neighborhood and that UNDERAGE CHILD loosing his life FOR NOT REACTING PROPERLY TO A STRANGE ADULT FOLLOWING THEM.

GM was a creep wanting some light black coffee and wanted to take it. I'm sure this wasn't the first time he'd tried it. Maybe the first young black boy wasn't strong enough to fight off GM so he tried a bigger prey.

[Teddy B 17,252]

GM was a creep wanting some light black coffee and wanted to take it. I'm sure this wasn't the first time he'd tried it. Maybe the first young black boy wasn't strong enough to fight off GM so he tried a bigger prey.

I doubt GM was looking for a physical altercation, he was probably scared stiff. I don't think he could handle himself that way either, he seems more the type to hide behind the gun. I think he was very surprised when he found himself in a physical fight, was getting his butt whipped and did the only thing he thought he could to save himself.

Edited February 26, 2016 by Teddy B

[Janelle2002 3,865]

I doubt GM was looking for a physical altercation, he was probably scared stiff. I don't think he could handle himself that way either, he seems more the type to hide behind the gun. I think he was very surprised when he found himself in a physical fight, was getting his butt whipped and did the only thing he thought he could to save himself.

He wanted brown sugar. Lol

I know there are those who worship GM's pedophilia behavior.

[Dakine10 5,452]

The prosecutors blew that case. They had enough for a manslaughter conviction but went for murder instead, which they didn't have. I think the pressure from higher ups (Obama and Holder etc) to put GZ behind bars and throw away the key had a part in that as well.

Yeah. I still think it's only a matter of time before the guy end's up behind bars for something though. Hopefully he doesn't hurt anyone else.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Yeah. I still think it's only a matter of time before the guy end's up behind bars for something though. Hopefully he doesn't hurt anyone else.

He's been in at least 3 or 4 more run ins with the law and had someone else shoot at him since the incident with TM. It's definitely not going to end well for him.