Black thinkers like Bernie Sanders. They've studied the Clintons' true cost

[smilesammich 10,727]

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/586975-justice-for-jessica-chambers/

Now you have black folks burning whites alive .

lib, you need to take a seat and read up on domestic violence. this isn't about race, jessica chambers was in a relationship with her killer.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Cruz's ultra right wing social views scare me. A lot of the other I like. I agree with you the field is absurd as is politics in this country as a whole. I actually respect the Bern even though I disagree with him on so much. At least he is not fake. Same with Trump.

Right there with you on Bernie and Trump.. With Bernie it seems to be a race against time, will Clinton get enough delegates put away before her campaign unravels?

[Teddy B 17,252]

well if you don't feel you have control over your fate, why would you dream for a second you could make a difference big picture?

I didn't say I don't feel I have control over my fate. I said it's not realistic for one to think they can make a difference in the grand scheme of things. Sure some do, but most who try or think they can, never do.

[lostinblue 1,989]

lib, you need to take a seat and read up on domestic violence. this isn't about race, jessica chambers was in a relationship with her killer.

Tellis is believed to have been the last person to have been with Chambers the night she was killed. The two allegedly had a relationship in the weeks leading up to her death, officials said.

While Chambers and Tellis were eight years apart in age,

Sounds like together for a few weeks....Lots of hate there ... to burn someone alive .....for being together for such a short time

Tellis is already facing charge three counts of unauthorized use of an access card and one count of possession of marijuana with intent to distribute. The Clarion-Ledger reported that he has admitted to using a debit card belonging to ULM student Meing-Chen Hsiao, 34, of Taiwan. Hsiao was found stabbed to death in her apartment on Aug. 8 of last year, more than a week after she was reported missing..

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2016/02/23/arrest-made-jessica-chambers-murder-case/80825562/

[smilesammich 10,727]

Tellis is believed to have been the last person to have been with Chambers the night she was killed. The two allegedly had a relationship in the weeks leading up to her death, officials said.

While Chambers and Tellis were eight years apart in age,

Sounds like together for a few weeks....Lots of hate there ... to burn someone alive .....for being together for such a short time

Tellis is already facing charge three counts of unauthorized use of an access card and one count of possession of marijuana with intent to distribute. The Clarion-Ledger reported that he has admitted to using a debit card belonging to ULM student Meing-Chen Hsiao, 34, of Taiwan. Hsiao was found stabbed to death in her apartment on Aug. 8 of last year, more than a week after she was reported missing..

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2016/02/23/arrest-made-jessica-chambers-murder-case/80825562/

it takes lots of hate to kill anyone you're in a relationship with.

I didn't say I don't feel I have control over my fate. I said it's not realistic for one to think they can make a difference in the grand scheme of things. Sure some do, but most who try or think they can, never do.

i didn't mean you you. i meant YOU KIDS TODAY HAVE NO FUTURE.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Not that picnic is short for pic a *** non sense again. We debunked that craziness a long time ago

DIdn't say that. But lynchings were a public holiday so to speak. And picnics did happen while black people were lynched in the background. You can't debunk that.

http://www.culinarylore.com/food-history:picnic-connection-to-racism

Pictures of white people, dressed up and smiling at the camera, while black victims hang in the background, have been shown as evidence.

Of course, the other "n" word was used, and it is said that white people would randomly select a victim for these public gatherings.

Hence the shortened term "pic-nic" came to be used for these gatherings.

Did such gatherings occur? Yes, unfortunately, in the late 19th century, lynchings of blacks was common, although by the twentieth century public lynchings of this sort were not considered acceptable and they were done by cowardly masked men in the dead of night.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/586975-justice-for-jessica-chambers/

Now you have black folks burning whites alive .

Yes because this horrible case makes up for the 1000's of people who were lynched. Racist math at it's best. But unlike you, myself and Janelle expressed remorse for this young lady, too bad the same can't be said all around.

[ExPatty 502]

It's too bad this conversation didn't start two months ago because Sanders has blown it. Short of indictment by the FBI in the very near term or a medical emergency, Hillary has this bagged.

Needed to win nomination: 2383 delegates

Hillary has: 505

Sanders has: 71

Feb 27, SC Primary: Hillary odds to win 99%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/south-carolina-democratic/

Mar 1

Arkansas: Hillary odds to win 98%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/arkansas-democratic/

Georgia: Hillary odds to win 99%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/georgia-democratic/

Mass: Hillary odds to win 61%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/massachusetts-democratic/

Oklahoma: Hillary odds to win 79%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/oklahoma-democratic/

Tenn: Hillary odds to win 98%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/tennessee-democratic/

Texas: Hillary odds to win 99%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/texas-democratic/

Vermont: Hillary odds to win 98%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/vermont-democratic/

Virginia: Hillary odds to win 97%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/virginia-democratic/

This was never a genuine primary election because the democrats chose who their people would be voting for in the general years ago. Who knows why Biden really stepped out. It's too bad he did, because he could actually have given Hillary a run for her money, but Sanders was way too weak to get this done.

The democratic establishment is playing a very dangerous game. By forcing on the electorate somebody who is widely, roundly, consistently hated by a massive number of Americans (including many democrats), they are trying to shoehorn in "their" candidate and there is a very real possibility Hillary loses to Trump. She is ahead now, but not by a large degree: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton And not only is Trump going to bloody her in debates in ways she cannot him (he has no political history that is tarnished), but things outside either's control play well to a non-incumbent; another terrorist attack? More votes for Trump. Another recession? More votes for Trump.

I hope the democrats lose this election because they don't deserve to win it. I won't go so far as to vote for Trump though because he is a loon, but he is a symptom of the political catastrophe that is the United States.

[Teddy B 17,252]

i didn't mean you you. i meant YOU KIDS TODAY HAVE NO FUTURE.

Ahhh okay, I misread.

[smilesammich 10,727]

It's too bad this conversation didn't start two months ago because Sanders has blown it. Short of indictment by the FBI in the very near term or a medical emergency, Hillary has this bagged.

Needed to win nomination: 2383 delegates

Hillary has: 505

Sanders has: 71

Feb 27, SC Primary: Hillary odds to win 99%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/south-carolina-democratic/

Mar 1

Arkansas: Hillary odds to win 98%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/arkansas-democratic/

Georgia: Hillary odds to win 99%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/georgia-democratic/

Mass: Hillary odds to win 61%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/massachusetts-democratic/

Oklahoma: Hillary odds to win 79%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/oklahoma-democratic/

Tenn: Hillary odds to win 98%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/tennessee-democratic/

Texas: Hillary odds to win 99%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/texas-democratic/

Vermont: Hillary odds to win 98%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/vermont-democratic/

Virginia: Hillary odds to win 97%: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/virginia-democratic/

This was never a genuine primary election because the democrats chose who their people would be voting for in the general years ago. Who knows why Biden really stepped out. It's too bad he did, because he could actually have given Hillary a run for her money, but Sanders was way too weak to get this done.

The democratic establishment is playing a very dangerous game. By forcing on the electorate somebody who is widely, roundly, consistently hated by a massive number of Americans (including many democrats), they are trying to shoehorn in "their" candidate and there is a very real possibility Hillary loses to Trump. She is ahead now, but not by a large degree: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton And not only is Trump going to bloody her in debates in ways she cannot him (he has no political history that is tarnished), but things outside either's control play well to a non-incumbent; another terrorist attack? More votes for Trump. Another recession? More votes for Trump.

I hope the democrats lose this election because they don't deserve to win it. I won't go so far as to vote for Trump though because he is a loon, but he is a symptom of the political catastrophe that is the United States.

at this point i feel like we need to just let the political catastrophe parlay into it's final stages..let the destruction happen, be it under trump watch or clinton. get it over with so we can move forward already.

[Dario2012 51]

Needed to win nomination: 2383 delegates

Hillary has: 505

Sanders has: 71

Quite misleading numbers there. You're counting super delegates (a.k.a. party insiders) who are not quite ordinary voters for Clinton. On the pledged delegate count, Sanders is ahead. And if Hillary ends up winning the nomination based on super delegates votes, the Democratic Party will have a voter mutiny on its hands.

I'm voting for Bernie Sanders. Will write him in if I have to. And I hope most sensible Democrats will do the same.

[ExPatty 502]

Quite misleading numbers there. You're counting super delegates (a.k.a. party insiders) who are not quite ordinary voters for Clinton. On the pledged delegate count, Sanders is ahead. And if Hillary ends up winning the nomination based on super delegates votes, the Democratic Party will have a voter mutiny on its hands.

I'm voting for Bernie Sanders. Will write him in if I have to. And I hope most sensible Democrats will do the same.

They are not misleading in the least. They are not as nuanced as you said, but they are real numbers, and they are in Hillary's corner.

Here's another number for you, if you think that the super delegates are as plastic as they ought to be.

Weighted endorsement points.

Hillary has: 473

Sanders has: 3

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/

What this tells you is that the establishment, the elite, the party faithful are all in Hillary's corner overwhelmingly. Nobody in the democratic party considers Sanders one of them. This is the same thing Trump suffers from--virtually no endorsements. The difference is Trump is winning as a legitimate outsider. Sanders isn't an outsider. He's been there forever. The problem is he's been around these people for decades and isn't popular enough for their support. That's why the super delegates will only go to him if they are dragged kicking and screaming.

Super delegates are a sham, but they are there nonetheless.

[Dario2012 51]

They are not misleading in the least. They are not as nuanced as you said, but they are real numbers, and they are in Hillary's corner.

Here's another number for you, if you think that the super delegates are as plastic as they ought to be.

Weighted endorsement points.

Hillary has: 473

Sanders has: 3

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/

What this tells you is that the establishment, the elite, the party faithful are all in Hillary's corner overwhelmingly. Nobody in the democratic party considers Sanders one of them. This is the same thing Trump suffers from--virtually no endorsements. The difference is Trump is winning as a legitimate outsider. Sanders isn't an outsider. He's been there forever. The problem is he's been around these people for decades and isn't popular enough for their support. That's why the super delegates will only go to him if they are dragged kicking and screaming.

Super delegates are a sham, but they are there nonetheless.

I agree with most everything you wrote. But I do think that we, and Sanders, will overcome Hillary and the super delegates.

[smilesammich 10,727]

I'm voting for Bernie Sanders. Will write him in if I have to. And I hope most sensible Democrats will do the same.

me too.

[Teddy B 17,252]

me too.

He was talking about sensible democrats.

[smilesammich 10,727]

He was talking about sensible democrats.

WHAT DID YOU JUST CALL ME?