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@Janelle2002-- I thought I just did. you need much better than Kanazawa's discredited and flawed study to make this stick!

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/between-the-lines/201109/kanazawa-apologizes-black-unattractiveness-article-apparently-gets

most credible scientist find the subject of beauty to be too subjective to considered as area of study.

According to the statement, the London School of Economics' internal review and disciplinary hearing concluded that "some of the assertions put forward in the blog post were flawed and would have benefited from more rigorous academic scrutiny....[and] the author ignored the basic responsibility of a scientific communicator to qualify claims made in proportion to the certainty of the evidence."

Google the internet, come back and tell us there are no websites and personal experiences of others talking about the hatred of black women.

You know what, you won't be able to come back and say they don't exist. Merrytooth already posted one.

There are also topics about mixed biracial black children looking better than black children.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2013/04/biracial_children_racism_advice_for_white_parents.html

http://madamenoire.com/594983/he-got-that-good-hair-and-those-light-eyes-the-black-communitys-obsession-with-mixed-babies/

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I did not say they do not exist, but you are taking flawed concepts, ideas and presenting as facts, taking anecdotes as evidence. most people see black men as criminals, gangbangers and the only good black man is the one they know. Even if their experience of a black man are limited to internet and news cycle that does not make it so. The same goes for black women. I do not disagree that black women are difficult to deal with, but I contend that all women are. Black men know of black women, whites of whites, Asians and the likes. That is our experience, a human experience you are bent on applying to a subset of the human race.

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You are right. You did ask, I'm sorry. Now that I've given you my humble "black" lololololol opinion, what do you think?

I think that you are using a stereotype , and that if others applied such an assertion to other areas that stereotype black males you would be appalled.

We did all agree a brother will date an ugly white woman. Let's just consider that our warm fuzzy moment ?

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Think we are semi saying the same thing.

Just because everyone doesn't experience something doesn't make another person's experience false.

This is a topic of conversation because it does happen.

Just like you have some men who will only date Asian because they feel Asian women are submissive. Does this mean every man does? No. But if a woman or person tell you they've experienced this it can't all together be discredited because it isn't a wide spread phenomenon. It's a topic.

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@Janelle202-- I am not saying you are racist or anything but you've taken anecdotal evidence from your experience, and few other people and presenting them as facts. Those facts taken from the right perspective apply to every races to different degrees of acceptance.

I am not saying you are a racist, but it's not because you are black.

The present study sought to examine normative dissociation within a racially and ethnically diverse nonclinical sample. In all, 317 undergraduates, including 190 Whites and 127 racial/ethnic minorities from a large research university participated in the current study. Results indicated differences in dissociation as a function of race: African and Asian Americans reported significantly higher rates of dissociation compared to Whites. There were no differences in psychological adjustment indicators as a function of race. The findings indicate that race moderates the relationship between dissociation and psychological adjustment outcomes for Blacks (all models) and Asian Americans (1 model), such that higher rates of dissociation are associated with lower rates of psychological distress as compared to Whites.

As for the topic of race romantic relations, you guys should check out this study.

How race matters in romance: Dating app reveals most men fancy Asian women while majority of females prefer white men

· Data from Facebook dating app, Are You Interested, found men from all different races preferred a partner of another race over their own

· Researchers looked at 2.4 million heterosexual interactions

· Most men preferred Asian women (with the exception of Asian men) while all women (except black women) were most drawn to white men

A persons race is still a major factor when picking a partner, according to a study of dating app users.

Research examining the preferences of Facebook dating app, Are You Interested (AYI) found black men and women receive fewer responses to their messages.

It also found that men from all different races prefer a partner of another race over their own.

The study found men respond to women around there times more often than women reply to men's messages and that the women studied were mostly drawn to white men

The data comes from AYI, which claims to be one of the largest Facebook dating apps with over 70 million users and is similar to Tinder.

It works by letting people looking for a date, or something more casual, flick through profiles of users and click yes to show their interest or skip to move on to the next.

When a user clicks yes the person they are interested in receives a notification that someone is interested and has the chance to respond.

The study looked at the gender and ethnicity of the people who responded to a yes notification, Quartz reported.

Research examining the preferences of Facebook dating app, Are You Interested (AYI) found black men and women receive fewer responses to their messages

Researchers for the app looked at 2.4 million heterosexual interactions by users who are mostly aged 35 and over, to collect the statistics.

The study found black men and women get the lowest response rates to their messages.

Most men prefer Asian women (with the exception of Asian men,) while all women (except black women) are most drawn to white men, according to the research.

Interestingly, it found men from all racial groups tend to prefer women from races other than their own.

The study said Asian women seem to favour advances from white men, as they responded to yes messages almost eight per cent of the time more than any other race.

Most men prefer Asian women (with the exception of Asian men,) while all women (except black women) are most drawn to white men, according to the research

The data suggests that men are least likely to respond to likes from black women and did so 7.5 per cent of the time, which is less often than for Asian, Latino and White women. KEY FINDINGS OF THE AYI STUDY

· Men from all different races prefer a partner of another race over their own.

· Black men and women get the lowest response rates to their messages.

· Most men prefer Asian women (with the exception of Asian men).

· All women (except black women) are most drawn to white men.

· Asian women seem to most strongly favour advances from white men.

· Men are least likely to respond to likes from black women.

· Men respond to women around there times more often than women reply to men's messages.

Men respond to women around there times more often than women reply to mens messages.

However, the findings said men tend to be drawn to women from another race, contrast sharply with another recent study.

Sociologist Professor Kevin Lewis, from the UC San Diego Division of Social Sciences, found members of dating sites are most likely to contact individuals who share their own racial background on dating websites.

He studied the interaction patterns of 126,134 users of dating website OkCupid.com in the U.S. over a two-and-a-half month period.

The sociologist found the tendency to initiate contact with someone from a shared race, is strongest among Asians and Indians and weakest among whites, the study said.

While he said white people were the most likely to consider relationships with people from other ethnic backgrounds, he said the biggest 'reversals' in preference, are observed among groups that display the greatest tendency towards in-group bias.

Professor Lewis' study also found that a person who is contacted by someone from a different racial background for the first time is more likely to reply, which he explains using his theory about 'pre-emptive discrimination'.

'Based on a lifetime of experiences in a racist and racially segregated society, people anticipate discrimination on the part of a potential recipient and are largely unwilling to reach out in the first place,' he said.

'But if a person of another race expresses interest in them first, their assumptions are falsified and they are more willing to take a chance on people of that race in the future.'

However, he warns that the effect is sort-lived as people go back to habitual patterns in around a week.

Holy normative dissociation

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I think that you are using a stereotype , and that if others applied such an assertion to other areas that stereotype black males you would be appalled.

We did all agree a brother will date an ugly white woman. Let's just consider that our warm fuzzy moment ?

Not stereotyping, discussing a topic that is brought to our attention. Would discussing white men going on shooting sprees stereotyping or discussing with the understanding that all white men don't go on shooting sprees?

And isn't your last comment classified ad stereotyping then? Lol

Yes, we have the fuzzies. Lol

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I did not say they do not exist, but you are taking flawed concepts, ideas and presenting as facts, taking anecdotes as evidence. most people see black men as criminals, gangbangers and the only good black man is the one they know. Even if their experience of a black man are limited to internet and news cycle that does not make it so. The same goes for black women. I do not disagree that black women are difficult to deal with, but I contend that all women are. Black men know of black women, whites of whites, Asians and the likes. That is our experience, a human experience you are bent on applying to a subset of the human race.

Actually, they are facts. As a black man who lives with and deals with this on a daily basis, I can say 100% without a doubt what she is saying is true. Why? Because I was just like you and thought the same thing.

Before I married the young lady you're talking to, we were good friends. We used to argue about this same subject. She would go on about how as a black women, there were things she just couldn't do that white/foreign women could do. I told her she was crazy, it's not that bad. That was until I saw it with my own eyes. I've talked to black men who have impossible standards for a black woman. On a scale of 1 to 10, she has to be a 15(but the men are 4 or five on their best day). They have to make at least 50,000 a year if they even have one child and that child can't live with them(but they can have multiple kids with multiple mothers and not make the same amount of money but this is acceptable). She has to have several degrees and be classically trained in whatever she does(but the men just have diplomas and act "hood"). She has to be independent financially, meaning he won't be obligated to support her in any way(but he wants her to submit to him completely). She has to be feminine enough to embody the traditional role of house wife while simultaneously be masculine enough to pay for the man's meal on the first date and work to make money to support the both of them(oxymoron). This isn't hyperbole, this is word for word what these black men have stated what they want in a black woman. Now let's look at the standards for white/foreign women.

They can have kids, they can stay at home, they're not asked to pay for a thing, and on top of that, they don't have to be attractive at all. I'm talking Jabba the hut here, and this is considered better that a decent black woman.

As for your last comment, black women are dealing with issues that don't exist in any other race. Period. No other women on earth are disrespected like black women. No women on earth are loathed more than black women by their own men. Want to debate it? I'll go first. Find me a race of people that make songs and demean their women like rappers do. Even in places where women are 3 class citizens and sexual slavery is legal, you will never see videos that go mainstream that demean their women. I'll wait.

She isn't applying a subset, she's pointing out something people try to ignore. Unfortunately, it's like the Matrix, once you're unplugged, you can't go back.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.” – Coretta Scott King

"Oppressive language does more than represent violence; it is violence; does more than represent the limits of knowledge; it limits knowledge." -Toni Morrison

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.

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Not stereotyping, discussing a topic that is brought to our attention. Would discussing white men going on shooting sprees stereotyping or discussing with the understanding that all white men don't go on shooting sprees?

And isn't your last comment classified ad stereotyping then? Lol

Yes, we have the fuzzies. Lol

Yes it was definitely a stereotype

Actually, they are facts. As a black man who lives with and deals with this on a daily basis, I can say 100% without a doubt what she is saying is true. Why? Because I was just like you and thought the same thing.

Before I married the young lady you're talking to, we were good friends. We used to argue about this same subject. She would go on about how as a black women, there were things she just couldn't do that white/foreign women could do. I told her she was crazy, it's not that bad. That was until I saw it with my own eyes. I've talked to black men who have impossible standards for a black woman. On a scale of 1 to 10, she has to be a 15(but the men are 4 or five on their best day). They have to make at least 50,000 a year if they even have one child and that child can't live with them(but they can have multiple kids with multiple mothers and not make the same amount of money but this is acceptable). She has to have several degrees and be classically trained in whatever she does(but the men just have diplomas and act "hood"). She has to be independent financially, meaning he won't be obligated to support her in any way(but he wants her to submit to him completely). She has to be feminine enough to embody the traditional role of house wife while simultaneously be masculine enough to pay for the man's meal on the first date and work to make money to support the both of them(oxymoron). This isn't hyperbole, this is word for word what these black men have stated what they want in a black woman. Now let's look at the standards for white/foreign women.

They can have kids, they can stay at home, they're not asked to pay for a thing, and on top of that, they don't have to be attractive at all. I'm talking Jabba the hut here, and this is considered better that a decent black woman.

As for your last comment, black women are dealing with issues that don't exist in any other race. Period. No other women on earth are disrespected like black women. No women on earth are loathed more than black women by their own men. Want to debate it? I'll go first. Find me a race of people that make songs and demean their women like rappers do. Even in places where women are 3 class citizens and sexual slavery is legal, you will never see videos that go mainstream that demean their women. I'll wait.

She isn't applying a subset, she's pointing out something people try to ignore. Unfortunately, it's like the Matrix, once you're unplugged, you can't go back.

Well its a shame black men treat black women so badly. I wonder if that is somehow white people's fault also

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I do not disagree that black women are difficult to deal with, but I contend that all women are.

this line of thinking shows the ever-present underlying misogyny. all women are difficult so by default black women are difficult. lol.

maybe you should dig a little deeper. let's start with - what do you mean by difficult? are black women more difficult than all other women? i ask why come?

haha. a pun.

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You caught me on that one there ^_^ ! I wanted to add that women's experience are similar and we are just one side of the same mirror.

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this line of thinking shows the ever-present underlying misogyny. all women are difficult so by default black women are difficult. lol.

maybe you should dig a little deeper. let's start with - what do you mean by difficult? are black women more difficult than all other women? i ask why come?

haha. a pun.

And by the same token most women say men are difficult to deal with. They wrote a book about the obvious. It's called men are from Mars women are from venus.

But it's convenient to hang a sexist or racist label on anything that does not fit in your box.

Open your mind like I have

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And by the same token most women say men are difficult to deal with. They wrote a book about the obvious. It's called men are from Mars women are from venus.

But it's convenient to hang a sexist or racist label on anything that does not fit in your box.

Open your mind like I have

Where and if the shoe fits, it does. If the shoe doesn't, it doesn't.

You might want to close the door you opened in your mind and reopen it.

Aside from the awesome RUB chicks all wimmins are hard to deal with, especially CABA's!

Because they are awesome. Shooting guns in high heels, cooking in high heels, .... I strive everyday to get to this status.

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Because they are awesome. Shooting guns in high heels, cooking in high heels, .... I strive everyday to get to this status.

You're catchin on Janelle. If you play your cards right it won't be long til there's an overweight, gun lovin, god fearin, male chauvinist Murican male in your future.

 

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