Seas are rising way faster than any time in past 2,800 years

[Expat1 971]

You keep using "Air Quotes" as if that is a method of dismissing Scientists and their years of dedication. I don't see anyone except you holding on to this 18th century view of the universe..you seem to be that last holdout...

If the Carbon did not go into the atmosphere and the seas, where did it go?

"Air quotes"? Hardly. Anyone can read the NOAA "state of the climate" reports. They are liberally published. By "top scientists as measured by most published". The quote was directly cut and pasted.

You DID get the part in the earlier post about "400 ppm CO2" right?

That is, I believe, the current average global measured CO2 level in the atmosphere. What you didn't get is that presence of CO2 reduces, not increases, the total amount of energy in the atmosphere. At least if you calculate the enthalpies of CO2 free air and CO2 contaminated air at the same relative humidity. Global warming requires an increase of water levels, not CO2 levels and the models that correlate the two, predict that one will rise with the other, and project the warming from it have a fatal and unexplained error.

But you knew that I'm sure.

My view of the universe is this: Correlation of water accumulation in the sea and CO2 levels in the atmosphere is a huge joke with us. Sea level rise has been directly correlated (by REAL scientists) to the trillions of gallons of water (example India extracts 61 trillion gallons) that are annually extracted from the ground and eventually transferred to the sea.

"Where does that water go" is a WAY better question than "where does that CO2 go".

From a technological point of view current focus should be targeted investment in research and development of desalination processes to convert seawater to fresh water for agricultural and domestic use. Saudi Arabia, by necessity, is the best in the world at this and forward outlook indicates that this will be a widening market across the world. It will happen, I'm just waiting to hear that California flipped the switch and turned the key on their unused desalination plants (though sadly they are very energy intensive).

Noticed the climate nutjobs never mention this however development of such technologies is one example of what real scientists and engineers work on. Your "most published sources" however don't seem to be working on anything but papers.

typical Liberal Artist..thank you very much.

#thuglivessplatter

[Jacque67 7,328]

"Air quotes"? Hardly. Anyone can read the NOAA "state of the climate" reports. They are liberally published. By "top scientists as measured by most published". The quote was directly cut and pasted.

You DID get the part in the earlier post about "400 ppm CO2" right?

That is, I believe, the current average global measured CO2 level in the atmosphere. What you didn't get is that presence of CO2 reduces, not increases, the total amount of energy in the atmosphere. At least if you calculate the enthalpies of CO2 free air and CO2 contaminated air at the same relative humidity. Global warming requires an increase of water levels, not CO2 levels and the models that correlate the two, predict that one will rise with the other, and project the warming from it have a fatal and unexplained error.

But you knew that I'm sure.

My view of the universe is this: Correlation of water accumulation in the sea and CO2 levels in the atmosphere is a huge joke with us. Sea level rise has been directly correlated (by REAL scientists) to the trillions of gallons of water (example India extracts 61 trillion gallons) that are annually extracted from the ground and eventually transferred to the sea.

"Where does that water go" is a WAY better question than "where does that CO2 go".

From a technological point of view current focus should be targeted investment in research and development of desalination processes to convert seawater to fresh water for agricultural and domestic use. Saudi Arabia, by necessity, is the best in the world at this and forward outlook indicates that this will be a widening market across the world. It will happen, I'm just waiting to hear that California flipped the switch and turned the key on their unused desalination plants (though sadly they are very energy intensive).

Noticed the climate nutjobs never mention this however development of such technologies is one example of what real scientists and engineers work on. Your "most published sources" however don't seem to be working on anything but papers.

#thuglivessplatter

"Real scientists" aren't engineers-lol. Guess you just ignore theories and tinker away in the garage...with the brewery kit? Edited February 26, 2016 by Jacque67

[Expat1 971]

"Real scientists" aren't engineers-lol. Guess you just ignore theories and tinker away in the garage...with the brewery kit?

"Real scientists" don't pencil-whip their data to make it match their theories

Edited February 26, 2016 by Expat1

[Rob L 3,811]

"Real scientists" don't pencil-whip their data to make it match their theories

[Dakine10 5,452]

That pie chart you posted looks similar to this one. But this one better explains why your's won't matter.

[Rob L 3,811]

That pie chart you posted looks similar to this one. But this one better explains why your's won't matter.

This graph may be effective

[Umka36 781]

I guess the massive methane leak in CA isn't helping?

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/californias-massive-methane-leak-aliso-canyon-socalgas

[Expat1 971]

You two have nothing do you?

You remind me of the fanatics who arrested Galileo. Go back to serving fries.

Edited February 27, 2016 by Expat1

[Rob L 3,811]

You two have nothing do you?

You remind me of the fanatics who arrested Galileo. Go back to serving fries.

People with a modern outlook

2258 peer reviewed climate articles

9136 Scientists

Climate Change Deniers

1 peer reviewed climate article

1 scientist

The oil and gas industry

Expat

Edited February 27, 2016 by Rob L

[Rob L 3,811]

I guess the massive methane leak in CA isn't helping?

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/californias-massive-methane-leak-aliso-canyon-socalgas

No its not

What an embarrasment

[Jacque67 7,328]

You two have nothing do you?

You remind me of the fanatics who arrested Galileo. Go back to serving fries.

Didn't take history?

[Expat1 971]

People with a modern outlook

2258 peer reviewed climate articles

9136 Scientists

Climate Change Deniers

1 peer reviewed climate article

1 scientist

The oil and gas industry

Expat

You sure don't have much to say about the numbers

[Jacque67 7,328]

You sure don't have much to say about the numbers

Because figures can't be "pencil-whipped" to fit theories, can they?

Interesting choice of language ....

[Expat1 971]

People with a modern outlook

2258 peer reviewed climate articles

9136 Scientists

Climate Change Deniers

1 peer reviewed climate article

1 scientist

The oil and gas industry

Expat

Judith Curry, Professor and former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology.

Freeman Dyson, professor emeritus of the School of Natural Sciences, Institute for Advanced Study; Fellow of the Royal Society.

Steven E. Koonin, theoretical physicist and director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University.

Richard Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan emeritus professor of atmospheric science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and member of the National Academy of Sciences.

Craig Loehle, ecologist and chief scientist at the National Council for Air and Stream Improvement.

Patrick Moore, former president of Greenpeace Canada.

Nils-Axel Mörner, retired head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics Department at Stockholm University, former chairman of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution

Garth Paltridge, retired chief research scientist, CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research and retired director of the Institute of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre, visiting fellow Australian National University.

Denis Rancourt, former professor of physics at University of Ottawa, research scientist in condensed matter physics, and in environmental and soil science.

Harrison Schmitt, geologist, Apollo 17 Astronaut, former U.S. Senator.

Peter Stilbs, professor of physical chemistry at Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm.

Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of London.

Hendrik Tennekes, retired director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute.

Anastasios Tsonis, distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.

Ivar Giaever, Norwegian–American physicist and Nobel laureate in physics

Khabibullo Abdusamatov, astrophysicist at Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences

Sallie Baliunas, retired astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics

Timothy Ball, historical climatologist, and retired professor of geography at the University of Winnipeg

Ian Clark, hydrogeologist, professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa

Chris de Freitas, associate professor, School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science, University of Auckland

David Douglass, solid-state physicist, professor, Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Rochester

Don Easterbrook, emeritus professor of geology, Western Washington University

William M. Gray, professor emeritus and head of the Tropical Meteorology Project, Department of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University

William Happer, physicist specializing in optics and spectroscopy; emeritus professor, Princeton University

Ole Humlum, professor of geology at the University of Oslo

Wibjörn Karlén, professor emeritus of geography and geology at the University of Stockholm.

William Kininmonth, meteorologist, former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology

David Legates, associate professor of geography and director of the Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware

Anthony Lupo, professor of atmospheric science at the University of Missouri

Tad Murty, oceanographer; adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa

Tim Patterson, paleoclimatologist and professor of geology at Carleton University in Canada.

Ian Plimer, professor emeritus of mining geology, the University of Adelaide.

Arthur B. Robinson, biochemist and former faculty member at the University of California, San Diego

Murry Salby, atmospheric scientist, former professor at Macquarie University and University of Colorado

Nicola Scafetta, research scientist in the physics department at Duke University

Tom Segalstad, geologist; associate professor at University of Oslo

Nir Shaviv, professor of physics focusing on astrophysics and climate science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem

Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia

Willie Soon, astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics

Roy Spencer, meteorologist; principal research scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville

Henrik Svensmark, physicist, Danish National Space Center

George H. Taylor, retired director of the Oregon Climate Service at Oregon State University

Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, professor emeritus from University of Ottawa

You forgot a couple so I helpfully fixed your post for you

[Jacque67 7,328]

You forgot a couple so I helpfully fixed your post for you

A list of people who would condemn a modern day Galileo to death?