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Its not nice for you to call India a Fraud country, Moreover visa officers are not that dumb that they deny applications on the basis that the country has fraud people.

It may not be highest per capita but due to the large population, it probably is by sheer volume.

Feel. The. Bern.

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COs are 'not that dumb.' Newer ones often fall for the phony business letters; ones who were trained by me did not.

The B1 visa abuse rate from India is sky high.

The L1b visa abuse rate is sky high.

The F-1 student non-return rate is sky high.

The B2 visa abuse rate (working without permission, including year-round parents providing free child care) is sky high.

The H4 abuse rate is sky high (H4s are not currently allowed to work in most cases, but that does not apparently stop from them doing so)

All of this paints a very clear picture, which will (and has) make (made) it more difficult for people from India to convince a CO that they are amongst the few who will abide by the terms of the visa given to them

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Its not nice for you to call India a Fraud country, Moreover visa officers are not that dumb that they deny applications on the basis that the country has fraud people.

India, indeed, IS a high fraud country.

It may not seem to you, but from a US perspective, the number of Indian applicants not being truthful on their visa applications is high. And the more fraud there is, the higher the likelihood applicants are scrutinized more; and inevitably the higher the odds of denial,, even for eligible applicants.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: India
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You can laugh all you want, just know you are laughing at a very experienced member of this forum(Hypnos). The fact of the matter is what your parents do or have has ZERO to do with YOU. You must apply and be approved on your own merits and your merits alone. Do some research here and you will see for a fact you have a VERY slim chance of approval. India is a very high fraud country, and because India is high fraud you have about a zero chance of obtaining a visitor visa to the US, suck it up. But the only way to know for sure is apply. Period. End of story.

Not defending OP but out of curiosity are there any statistics/data(Simple Graph) to say that "India is a very high fraud country for Visitor Visas" without asking me to use the search button in VJ or feeding me info from Fox news? While the OP has to prove his commitment to return for a visitor visa, would like to see the data/statistics (numbers) behind the comment you made.

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Not defending OP but out of curiosity are there any statistics/data(Simple Graph) to say that "India is a very high fraud country for Visitor Visas" without asking me to use the search button in VJ or feeding me info from Fox news? While the OP has to prove his commitment to return for a visitor visa, would like to see the data/statistics (numbers) behind the comment you made.

My in laws just got their visitor visa approved (with only 3 simple questions asked at the interview) and lots of factors play in to getting a visitor visa approved.

I would not say very high, certainly high.

There was a documentary series on BBC? some years back, fly on the wall with Consulate staff, some of it was from India. An Indian friend of mine in the UK made all sorts of jokes about this, now his Wife he met in India and she moved to the UK, but he was a Lawyer.

Can not imagine it is very different in the US.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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According to this report by the Government Accountability Office (GAO), India seems to be in the top 5 in every category.

For example, on referral to fraud (usually for immigrant visas), it has the highest confirmed fraud cases in 2010 (page 16). And on tourist visas, you will notice it has an increasing trend in percentage of visa refusals compared to other top countries (page 11).

It's not just anecdotal evidence.

Feel. The. Bern.

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Not defending OP but out of curiosity are there any statistics/data(Simple Graph) to say that "India is a very high fraud country for Visitor Visas" without asking me to use the search button in VJ or feeding me info from Fox news? While the OP has to prove his commitment to return for a visitor visa, would like to see the data/statistics (numbers) behind the comment you made.

India has a relatively high denial rate for tourist visa's, over 20% for several years now. If you follow the link posted above, obviously many countries have higher rates. High fraud risk is a relative term, not a category.

On the other hand, a high number of immigrant and non immigrant visa's are approved from India every year. The fact that the OP is young and unmarried with no real provable ties to return home is the major factor.

There are many incidental factors that contribute in the case of India. Being well educated, being fluent in English, having money in the bank - all good things unless you're a prospective visitor to the USA with no ties to your own country. Having recent immigrant relatives also makes it that much easier to circumvent regular immigration channels. The CO has to weigh all of these as risk factors in any given case. They are not making a personal judgement, they are making a risk assessment.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: India
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India has a relatively high denial rate for tourist visa's, over 20% for several years now. If you follow the link posted above, obviously many countries have higher rates. High fraud risk is a relative term, not a category.

On the other hand, a high number of immigrant and non immigrant visa's are approved from India every year. The fact that the OP is young and unmarried with no real provable ties to return home is the major factor.

There are many incidental factors that contribute in the case of India. Being well educated, being fluent in English, having money in the bank - all good things unless you're a prospective visitor to the USA with no ties to your own country. Having recent immigrant relatives also makes it that much easier to circumvent regular immigration channels. The CO has to weigh all of these as risk factors in any given case. They are not making a personal judgement, they are making a risk assessment.

Like i said, OP's case does require sufficient commitment to head back and having been through different levels of immigration over the years i do understand and know assessment done by CO. I wasn't relating this to my question anyway.

Will go through the GAO for stats in detail and that is what i was looking for rather than Fox news or VJ search. Interesting that Page 31 lists Newdelhi as the only Indian consulate (one consulate among the 4-5 in India) and lowest in terms of number of suspected fraud cases compared to other countries unless percentage "proved" fraud were higher here.

According to this report by the Government Accountability Office (GAO), India seems to be in the top 5 in every category.

For example, on referral to fraud (usually for immigrant visas), it has the highest confirmed fraud cases in 2010 (page 16). And on tourist visas, you will notice it has an increasing trend in percentage of visa refusals compared to other top countries (page 11).

It's not just anecdotal evidence.

Thank you. Will read through in detail with respect to numbers.

 

 

 

 
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