Canadians crack down on guns, alarmed by flow from U.S.

[jam2016 10]

Japan has disarmed the population since the Tokugawa Shogunate formed which was over 400 years ago.

You mean all these Japanese Animes I had been watching are real?

Unlike most western countries, I believe most of the physical but non life threatening assaults in Asian Countries (including Japan) don't always get reported to the Police.

But I agree most crimes (such as theft and misdemeanors are) rates are much lower in Japan than many other Asian countries and the rest of the World.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Does anyone here really believe that if all of sudden people in Japan could own guns, the homicide rate would spike. Of course it would not. Its the culture dude not the guns

[smilesammich 10,727]

Does anyone here really believe that if all of sudden people in Japan could own guns, the homicide rate would spike. Of course it would not. Its the culture dude not the guns

the culture?

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Japan has disarmed the population since the Tokugawa Shogunate formed which was over 400 years ago.

They also have a much different way of policing. There is a Koban in every neighborhood practically.

Last year they added a whopping 11,000 new naturalized citizens. That's the policy.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Does anyone here really believe that if all of sudden people in Japan could own guns, the homicide rate would spike. Of course it would not. Its the culture dude not the guns

There is no state with more guns than the one I live in - we will hit 56% gun ownership this year. More than half of all non-military gun and ammunition companies are based here and more are coming due to our governor making the rounds and offering deals for them to come here. We have higher gun ownership than the most gun infested neighborhood in LA or New Orleans.

Our ethnic makeup is similar to Canada's (which is 90% white and Asian BTW) - It flip flops but most years we have a lower murder rate than Canada.

So guns abound like nobodies business, are courted by the government on both the corporate and personal sides.. and very low crime rate.

I'm not saying limiting guns would not reduce crime, in some areas it clearly would - but since there are areas with LOTS and LOTS of guns and very little crime there is beyond any reasonable doubt other and more important factors at play. If the agenda is simply to get rid of guns then people will ignore the obvious.

Edited February 16, 2016 by OnMyWayID

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

There is no state with more guns than the one I live in - we will hit 56% gun ownership this year. More than half of all non-military gun and ammunition companies are based here and more are coming due to our governor making the rounds and offering deals for them to come here. We have higher gun ownership than the most gun infested neighborhood in LA or New Orleans.

Our ethnic makeup is similar to Canada's (which is 90% white and Asian BTW) - It flip flops but most years we have a lower murder rate than Canada.

So guns abound like nobodies business, are courted by the government on both the corporate and personal sides.. and very low crime rate.

I'm not saying limiting guns would not reduce crime, in some areas it clearly would - but since there are areas with LOTS and LOTS of guns and very little crime there is beyond any reasonable doubt other and more important factors at play. If the agenda is simply to get rid of guns then people will ignore the obvious.

Great post

[Rob L 3,811]

I hear the 9mm Beretta adds great flavor to soups and stews.

That smells great dear, what are we having Italian again tonight?

[ExPatty 502]

There is no state with more guns than the one I live in - we will hit 56% gun ownership this year. More than half of all non-military gun and ammunition companies are based here and more are coming due to our governor making the rounds and offering deals for them to come here. We have higher gun ownership than the most gun infested neighborhood in LA or New Orleans.

Our ethnic makeup is similar to Canada's (which is 90% white and Asian BTW) - It flip flops but most years we have a lower murder rate than Canada.

So guns abound like nobodies business, are courted by the government on both the corporate and personal sides.. and very low crime rate.

I'm not saying limiting guns would not reduce crime, in some areas it clearly would - but since there are areas with LOTS and LOTS of guns and very little crime there is beyond any reasonable doubt other and more important factors at play. If the agenda is simply to get rid of guns then people will ignore the obvious.

Yep, exactly as many of us have said.

If the black community can ever get around to fixing its horrendous crime problems and outrageous rates at which young black men kill other young black men you'd see a huge reduction in gun crime from that alone, since it is the demographic responsible for the highest per capita murders.

Meanwhile most legislators are fiddling on stupid nonsense like whether we can buy rifles with pistol grips on them.

So, no, I'm not terribly interested in having more laws about guns I can own because an inner city kid dropped out of school, got into gang banging, and the most important thing to him is street cred, and he steals guns anyway:

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

Meanwhile Asians make up 5.5% of the population but only 1.2% of arrests in the US. Interesting how so few of them seem to be killed by "racist cops".

[Teddy B 17,252]

Yep, exactly as many of us have said.

If the black community can ever get around to fixing its horrendous crime problems and outrageous rates at which young black men kill other young black men you'd see a huge reduction in gun crime from that alone, since it is the demographic responsible for the highest per capita murders.

Meanwhile most legislators are fiddling on stupid nonsense like whether we can buy rifles with pistol grips on them.

So, no, I'm not terribly interested in having more laws about guns I can own because an inner city kid dropped out of school, got into gang banging, and the most important thing to him is street cred, and he steals guns anyway:

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

Meanwhile Asians make up 5.5% of the population but only 1.2% of arrests in the US. Interesting how so few of them seem to be killed by "racist cops".

With this mindset the problems in the black community will never change. It's not just a black problem, it's an us problem, as in you and me, and it will take all of us to change it. The black community didn't make the mess they deal with everyday on their own, they had plenty of help from ole whitey.

[smilesammich 10,727]

never understood the "black community" mindset, well i mean outside of the obvious racist implications. funny how no one ever brings that up when posting that same tired fbi link..

[Teddy B 17,252]

never understood the "black community" mindset, well i mean outside of the obvious racist implications. funny how no one ever brings that up when posting that same tired fbi link..

When I use the term "black community" it is meant simply as a reference to black people, there is nothing derogatory behind it.

[smilesammich 10,727]

When I use the term "black community" it is meant simply as a reference to black people, there is nothing derogatory behind it.

i use the term too, but it's really a false premise when applied to crime statistics/gun control. the idea that america is actually a non-violent country if we just ignore that pesky black community that refuses to fix 'black on black crime' (another false premise) is rooted in a racist mindset.

[Boiler 45,516]

Really pain in the but when facts get in the way of your preconceived ideas.

[ExPatty 502]

With this mindset the problems in the black community will never change. It's not just a black problem, it's an us problem, as in you and me, and it will take all of us to change it. The black community didn't make the mess they deal with everyday on their own, they had plenty of help from ole whitey.

Well, I personally had no role in it. But let's say I feel motivated to see it bettered anyway, what am I supposed to do exactly? A number of coworkers and I actually recently joined in a city mentorship program with a city school. The level of interest from the students was downright pathetic. Every one of us gave up. The kids simply do not care about their education whatsoever.

never understood the "black community" mindset, well i mean outside of the obvious racist implications. funny how no one ever brings that up when posting that same tired fbi link..

Not surprised you would be the one to call stats "tired".

i use the term too, but it's really a false premise when applied to crime statistics/gun control. the idea that america is actually a non-violent country if we just ignore that pesky black community that refuses to fix 'black on black crime' (another false premise) is rooted in a racist mindset.

Stats aren't "pesky" unless you're a racist yourself and only want to see ways in which whites have hurt blacks, not ways in which blacks have hurt themselves. White people aren't responsible for 70% of black kids born out of wedlock, for example.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Really pain in the but when facts get in the way of your preconceived ideas.

not so much the facts themselves, but how those facts are interpreted. i'm sure you're aware, some folks like to use these stats to excuse their racist stance that black people are predisposed to violent, unruly behavior. the next step in this stance is to point the finger at the 'black community', demand the 'black community' fix 'black problems' (i.e. predisposed behavior of the violent, unruly sort). it is really a pain in the butt when people tote this argument, but don't have the balls to come out and say exactly what they're holding onto with these beliefs.

my preconceived idea is that poverty, limited resources and mass incarceration breed not just more poverty, limited resources and mass incarceration but also violent crime. and while a victim is more likely to be killed by someone of their own race, i have never, ever heard the call for an end to white on white crime. i wonder why that is? i would guess some of you will argue that white people aren't allowed to be so insular. i would argue that racial insularity when dealing with human issues like violence, be it gun or otherwise - is a pretty pointless exercise.