Nigerian Woman Enslaved in Texas Home for 9 Years

[Expat1 971]

That might solve the smaller problem, but what is your solution for the much larger group of Americans who are involved in this sort of thing?

Why don't you list a few of the referenced thousands and thousands of the much larger group of Americans locking personal slaves up in their house?

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Why don't you list a few of the referenced thousands and thousands of the much larger group of Americans locking personal slaves up in their house?

Are you incapable of reading the OP and comprehending that the number I gave is taken directly from it? One might conclude that you are trying to be deliberately argumentative for no apparent reason, unless I have somehow struck a nerve and you do suffer some sort of reading comprehension disorder, if so I apologize for my bluntness.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

US Department of Justice statistics, 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites. In 2011, there were more cases of whites killing whites than there were of blacks killing blacks. Between 1980 to 2008, a majority (53.3 percent) of gang-related murders were committed by white people, with a majority of the homicide victims being white as well.

I love stats that mean nothing...

84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites yes and 93% of blacks were killed by blacks between 1980 - 2008.. Here is the bullet point from the conclusion from that same report:

Blacks were disproportionately represented as both homicide victims and offenders. The victimization rate for blacks (27.8 per 100,000) was 6 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000). The offending rate for blacks (34.4 per 100,000) was almost 8 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000)

In 2011, there were more cases of whites killing whites than there were of blacks killing blacks. - which would mean something if there were equal numbers of blacks and whites but as there are not a direct comparison is totally pointless - they switch from per capita percentages to raw numbers. A total BS stat.

Between 1980 to 2008, a majority (53.3 percent) of gang-related murders were committed by white people, with a majority of the homicide victims being white as well - Again a stat that only makes sense if there are equal numbers and cherry picks one type of homicide to boot, Blacks were 11% of the population in 1980 - saying they committed 40+% of gang related murders is not exactly something to be proud of - also and this has Latinos thrown in with the white stat - and they were a huge part of the drug gang violence during this time.

Cherry picking and misrepresenting data to push an agenda at the expense of reality - Huffington post joins FOX and MSNBC in the trustworthy category

Edited February 19, 2016 by OnMyWayID

[Expat1 971]

Are you incapable of reading the OP and comprehending that the number I gave is taken directly from it? One might conclude that you are trying to be deliberately argumentative for no apparent reason, unless I have somehow struck a nerve and you do suffer some sort of reading comprehension disorder, if so I apologize for my bluntness.

I read it.

My position is simply this: Importing these activities into the US is a rectifiable mistake. Your view is that thousands of Americans are engaging in it, so you have created this internal and ongoing problem that needs to be solved without one single example. So, in order to get some clarification on this problem that you claim is widespread, I suggested that some examples be listed.

Argument? LOL I don't think you have anything sport so please sit down to be schooled

Here is how to address a question like that:

1 example: Orange County - http://thegrio.com/2013/07/11/saudi-princess-accused-of-imprisoning-kenyan-as-a-slave/

Another example - Denver - http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/06/saudi-man-convicted-sexually-assaulting-maid-moved-from-colo-prison-to-federal.html

Your turn. I have a few more.

Edited February 19, 2016 by Expat1

[ready4ONE 5,400]

I read it.

My position is simply this: Importing these activities into the US is a rectifiable mistake. Your view is that thousands of Americans are engaging in it, so you have created this internal and ongoing problem that needs to be solved without one single example. So, in order to get some clarification on this problem that you claim is widespread, I suggested that some examples be listed.

Argument? LOL I don't think you have anything sport so please sit down to be schooled

Here is how to address a question like that:

1 example: Orange County - http://thegrio.com/2013/07/11/saudi-princess-accused-of-imprisoning-kenyan-as-a-slave/

Another example - Denver - http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/06/saudi-man-convicted-sexually-assaulting-maid-moved-from-colo-prison-to-federal.html

Your turn. I have a few more.

Now you are just being silly.

1 Counter Example: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/08/indiana-woman-held-captive-cage/15286185/

Lovely White Couple yes? And to think, story # on Google search for 'white couple hold captive.'

2 Counter Example: http://www.thisweeknews.com/content/stories/reynoldsburg/news/2015/04/21/couple-indicted-for-human-trafficking.html

Another Lovely White Couple yes? Hmmm, and neither story is nearly 3 years old like your two tired samples, both from 2015.

3 Counter Example: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Man-Woman-Arrested-Human-Trafficking-OC-368782401.html

Okay this set of winners are Hispanic, but apparently all American, and quite the fabulous human traffickers according to all accounts. And the story is just four days old. See? I can be fair, simple search, 3 stories, beating you by one, all significantly fresher than your two 'gotcha' examples, and all 100% Americans.

Don't bother posting individual examples. See if someone can assist you with reading comprehension, perhaps call your mom or dad and have them explain the OP to you? Just a thought.

[smilesammich 10,727]

I love stats that mean nothing...

84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites yes and 93% of blacks were killed by blacks between 1980 - 2008.. Here is the bullet point from the conclusion from that same report:

Blacks were disproportionately represented as both homicide victims and offenders. The victimization rate for blacks (27.8 per 100,000) was 6 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000). The offending rate for blacks (34.4 per 100,000) was almost 8 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000)

In 2011, there were more cases of whites killing whites than there were of blacks killing blacks. - which would mean something if there were equal numbers of blacks and whites but as there are not a direct comparison is totally pointless - they switch from per capita percentages to raw numbers. A total BS stat.

Between 1980 to 2008, a majority (53.3 percent) of gang-related murders were committed by white people, with a majority of the homicide victims being white as well - Again a stat that only makes sense if there are equal numbers and cherry picks one type of homicide to boot, Blacks were 11% of the population in 1980 - saying they committed 40+% of gang related murders is not exactly something to be proud of - also and this has Latinos thrown in with the white stat - and they were a huge part of the drug gang violence during this time.

Cherry picking and misrepresenting data to push an agenda at the expense of reality - Huffington post joins FOX and MSNBC in the trustworthy category

first, question. did you read the article or just ruminate on the meaning-nothing stats? just wondering because you seem to miss the point when you summarize with 'cherry picking and misrepresenting data to push an agenda..'

anyway i think you're missing the point of the stats used in the article. i'm not at all surprised by that. how about you ignore black on black crime (since it's apparently indicative of something larger and, not to mention, a black community issue) and focus instead on white on white crime (so as not to lose you, i'm saying that you're stating 'which would mean something if there were equal numbers of blacks and whites' because you're wanting the stats to represent a particular agenda - so much so that you're letting the point skyrocket over your head). white on white crime is a real issue for the white community - is it not? let's do something about it! lol.

[Expat1 971]

Now you are just being silly.

1 Counter Example: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/08/indiana-woman-held-captive-cage/15286185/

Lovely White Couple yes? And to think, story # on Google search for 'white couple hold captive.'

2 Counter Example: http://www.thisweeknews.com/content/stories/reynoldsburg/news/2015/04/21/couple-indicted-for-human-trafficking.html

Another Lovely White Couple yes? Hmmm, and neither story is nearly 3 years old like your two tired samples, both from 2015.

3 Counter Example: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Man-Woman-Arrested-Human-Trafficking-OC-368782401.html

Okay this set of winners are Hispanic, but apparently all American, and quite the fabulous human traffickers according to all accounts. And the story is just four days old. See? I can be fair, simple search, 3 stories, beating you by one, all significantly fresher than your two 'gotcha' examples, and all 100% Americans.

Don't bother posting individual examples. See if someone can assist you with reading comprehension, perhaps call your mom or dad and have them explain the OP to you? Just a thought.

LMAOOOOO....yes you have given us outstanding examples. Let's exclude the Hispanic gang-banger, save him for another thread. We shouldn't import them either.

Each of the women moved in with Williamson and Feldman in their rented townhome at 1244 White Birch Court with the understanding that the military man would meet them there when he returned to the United States. Instead, Wright said, they were manipulated and blackmailed by the couple.

O'Brien described what happened as "a brainwashing kind of thing."

He said all the women were adults, but he didn't give their ages or say where they lived.

Williamson was arrested on March 27, the day that Reynoldsburg police served a search warrant at the home after a series of interviews with a woman who moved out March 4 and asked for police help in getting her belongings.

An affidavit filed by police to obtain the search warrant included information gathered during the interviews. The woman reported that Williamson and Feldman treated her "like a slave," requiring her to do housework and ask permission to leave the house. She said the couple threatened to post nude pictures and videos of her online if she left.

She told police she "voluntarily made a pornographic movie" with another woman staying at the house, "which Williamson and Feldman filmed on a video camera and a cellphone."

The woman also provided the couple with access to her financial information because, she said, the Marine she had met online "wanted to take care of her and be in charge of everything."

She estimated the couple took $1,800 of her Supplemental Security Income payments and an equal amount of her earnings from work, plus her $298 income-tax refund.

She said the woman with whom she made the video remained at the house and had been beaten "numerous times" by Williamson.

According to the indictment, the sexual-battery counts involve instances in which the women were "coerced to submit" to sex acts.

You're really comparing this winner who didn't want her voluntary videos posted online and voluntarily provided her financial information to her 'knight in shining armor' to somebody was enslaved and locked up for 9 years?

Edited February 19, 2016 by Expat1

[ready4ONE 5,400]

LMAOOOOO....yes you have given us outstanding examples. Let's exclude the Hispanic gang-banger, save him for another thread. We shouldn't import them either.

Each of the women moved in with Williamson and Feldman in their rented townhome at 1244 White Birch Court with the understanding that the military man would meet them there when he returned to the United States. Instead, Wright said, they were manipulated and blackmailed by the couple.

O'Brien described what happened as "a brainwashing kind of thing."

He said all the women were adults, but he didn't give their ages or say where they lived.

Williamson was arrested on March 27, the day that Reynoldsburg police served a search warrant at the home after a series of interviews with a woman who moved out March 4 and asked for police help in getting her belongings.

An affidavit filed by police to obtain the search warrant included information gathered during the interviews. The woman reported that Williamson and Feldman treated her "like a slave," requiring her to do housework and ask permission to leave the house. She said the couple threatened to post nude pictures and videos of her online if she left.

She told police she "voluntarily made a pornographic movie" with another woman staying at the house, "which Williamson and Feldman filmed on a video camera and a cellphone."

The woman also provided the couple with access to her financial information because, she said, the Marine she had met online "wanted to take care of her and be in charge of everything."

She estimated the couple took $1,800 of her Supplemental Security Income payments and an equal amount of her earnings from work, plus her $298 income-tax refund.

She said the woman with whom she made the video remained at the house and had been beaten "numerous times" by Williamson.

According to the indictment, the sexual-battery counts involve instances in which the women were "coerced to submit" to sex acts.

You're really comparing this winner who didn't want her voluntary videos posted online and voluntarily provided her financial information to her 'knight in shining armor' to somebody was enslaved and locked up for 9 years?

I Google searched the Hispanic Gang Banger and there is no indication that he was 'brought here' or here illegally. In fact it appears that he was born and raised here and simply trying to emulate the efforts of the two White examples I posted. Believe it or not, many Hispanic people are born right here in the US. True story!

I am giving you three very fresh counter examples to your two stale examples and raising the point all three of mine were true American perpetrators.

I guess your mom and dad don't want to assist you in comprehending the facts stated in the OP?

Unlike you, I recognize that some of the cases of human trafficking in the US are indeed involving foreign nationals. It appears more often than not that the foreign nationals are the victims but the statistics I found are not concrete on that point. Unlike you, I know that the majority do not, and I sincerely don't share your knee-jerk reaction to foreigners, in fact I married a pretty darn good one.

You can give up now. Or keep digging the hole deeper, it's a free country after all.

[Expat1 971]

I Google searched the Hispanic Gang Banger and there is no indication that he was 'brought here' or here illegally. In fact it appears that he was born and raised here and simply trying to emulate the efforts of the two White examples I posted. Believe it or not, many Hispanic people are born right here in the US. True story!

I am giving you three very fresh counter examples to your two stale examples and raising the point all three of mine were true American perpetrators.

I guess your mom and dad don't want to assist you in comprehending the facts stated in the OP?

Unlike you, I recognize that some of the cases of human trafficking in the US are indeed involving foreign nationals. It appears more often than not that the foreign nationals are the victims but the statistics I found are not concrete on that point. Unlike you, I know that the majority do not, and I sincerely don't share your knee-jerk reaction to foreigners, in fact I married a pretty darn good one.

You can give up now. Or keep digging the hole deeper, it's a free country after all.

we all married foreigners. Except for the marriages to Kanooks. They're not really foreign.

The OP was about non-American perps. So I was actually focusing on that. Actually the stats are readily available. 45% of all (labor and sex trafficking in the US in 2014/2014) cases involve non-nationals, 55% involve USC's and permanent residents. So actually more than 45% involve non-nationals, but they didn't break the 55% down.

That's pretty bad.

It's so common in this part of the world that only the torture cases make the news.

Your example was funny. It was neither.

As to comprehension let's review together.

The Justice Department says between January 2008 and June 2010, agents investigated more than 2,515 human trafficking cases.

Most involved sex trafficking, but there were about 350 forced labor cases. One of which was the Nnaji's case.

Dunno maybe you should call your mommy and daddy, admit that they wasted every cent they spent on your education, and start paying it back. "Investigated" doesn't tell me schtick. Although on your planet, wherever it is, "investigated" might imply caught, prosecuted, and imprisoned on mine it means that's how many cases they looked into with no further information. Which is why, on my planet, this isn't enough information to draw a conclusion. So I'm sticking with the actual story and I'll leave the logic record-skipping to you. Make sure you make that call!

[smilesammich 10,727]

we all married foreigners. Except for the marriages to Kanooks. They're not really foreign.

wait WHAT?! where can i get a refund?

[Expat1 971]

wait WHAT?! where can i get a refund?

I knew that would fire you up

[smilesammich 10,727]

I knew that would fire you up

in true capitalist fashion..and to quote my bff ross geller..."I'M INDIGNANT! AS A CONSUMER!"

[Ban Hammer 13,641]

wait WHAT?! where can i get a refund?

someone didn't read the fine print.........

[ready4ONE 5,400]

we all married foreigners. Except for the marriages to Kanooks. They're not really foreign.

The OP was about non-American perps. So I was actually focusing on that. Actually the stats are readily available. 45% of all (labor and sex trafficking in the US in 2014/2014) cases involve non-nationals, 55% involve USC's and permanent residents. So actually more than 45% involve non-nationals, but they didn't break the 55% down.

That's pretty bad.

It's so common in this part of the world that only the torture cases make the news.

Your example was funny. It was neither.

As to comprehension let's review together.

The Justice Department says between January 2008 and June 2010, agents investigated more than 2,515 human trafficking cases.

Most involved sex trafficking, but there were about 350 forced labor cases. One of which was the Nnaji's case.

Dunno maybe you should call your mommy and daddy, admit that they wasted every cent they spent on your education, and start paying it back. "Investigated" doesn't tell me schtick. Although on your planet, wherever it is, "investigated" might imply caught, prosecuted, and imprisoned on mine it means that's how many cases they looked into with no further information. Which is why, on my planet, this isn't enough information to draw a conclusion. So I'm sticking with the actual story and I'll leave the logic record-skipping to you. Make sure you make that call!

Brilliant! You have come full circle to my original point. The OP was about one human trafficking incident, out of thousands per the OP. The perpetrators in the OP were foreigners.

My next point wasn't the story in the OP not being a horrible one, but that is was brought up because the perpetrators were foreigners.

You failed to comprehend the OP includes the fact that there were several thousand investigations into human trafficking and have been trying desperately, and sadly, to avoid admitting your comprehension fail and somehow thought pulling out two other stories of foreigners behaving badly (both nearly 3 years old) provides some sort of proof of nobody can tell what beyond supporting your foreigners are bad prejudice. Precisely the same position as the original poster, though he tried to be more subtle sharing his deeply felt prejudice.

You can give up or give it another shot.

[smilesammich 10,727]

someone didn't read the fine print.........

i'm going to protest at the consulate in montreal. apparently no one has any idea who or what an american is.