Am a green card holder and I need advise on getting a student visa for my hubby

[aaron2020 11,651]

Thanks @HFM181818

However, do you really believe any F1 applicant approved by you would return to their home country after graduation?

What if an applicant with I-20 from ivy league school told you the truth that he hoped to work and immigrate to US after graduation? Deny him?

If that's the case, all applicants have to make stories that he or she has to leave US because the career path will be much brighter in home country rather than in US, or he has to return because his parents are getting old and he need to go back to take care of them.

I wonder what's the ratio of F1 student returned to home country ?

After living/studying in US for several years, probably there are only 2 reasons to return:

1. Failed to get H1B / CR1 status after OPT expires

or

2. Return to help his/her father operate a multi-million family business in home country.

It doesn't matter if you thinks it stupid or unfair. It's still the law.

You are myopic to think that every F1 intends to stay here.

Edited February 13, 2016 by aaron2020

[HFM181818 750]

Thanks @HFM181818

However, do you really believe any F1 applicant approved by you would return to their home country after graduation? Very few - I was not too generous, as you might imagine.

What if an applicant with I-20 from ivy league school told you the truth that he hoped to work and immigrate to US after graduation? Deny him? Yes, instantly, because at that moment, his/her intentions not to return were known (and not guessed at)....have done this numerous times; same for spouses of Amcits who claimed they were going to return (obviously the I-130 had not yet been filed and the couple did not want to have the foreign spouse wait out the process overseas) to open some business (with no money!!!)...had a couple of bosses who said, 'well, they will just file the I-130 anyway'...to which I replied, 'let them', because I am not ignoring 214b. None of my decisions involving student visas were ever overturned by my bosses.

If that's the case, all applicants have to make stories that he or she has to leave US because the career path will be much brighter in home country rather than in US, or he has to return because his parents are getting old and he need to go back to take care of them. And that is what most of them do. And many of those were amusing, to say the least.

I wonder what's the ratio of F1 student returned to home country ? before I retired, and worked in a position in which I had access to that figure, it was less than 5%. More than 75% got married to a USC; the rest went after an H1B (or just disappeared).

After living/studying in US for several years, probably there are only 2 reasons to return:

1. Failed to get H1B / CR1 status after OPT expires (these folks would find someone to marry)

or

2. Return to help his/her father operate a multi-million family business in home country. this one is about the only one that would draw someone back, or if their parents were heavily involved in politics.

There was some brief move on to have student visas exempt from 214b, until it was pointed out how dangerous that would be, with every would-be terrorist applying for ESL and unable to be refused. I think it better to make it mandatory that the graduated student return to their country for two years without exception, then try to make their way back legally. Doesn't matter who you marry. Give some of what you learned back to your own culture first....helps your country, later, might help the US. The majority of students who get H1bs just end up working for 30-40% of what an American worker would command, depressing wages and reducing job opportunities for Amcits...which does not seem fair to me.

[R2B 2]

Many years ago, student visa policy in Canada is as same as US. Student had to make stories that how desperate he or she hope to leave Canada after graduation. And it is difficult for international student get work permit after graduation -- in order to protect Canadian's job .

The policy was criticized. Why not allow those well educated graduates start work in Canada and pay tax? Government made changes a few years ago:

Now students applicants do not have to make such stories, just show enough fund to visa officer to get visa.

3-years work permit will be issued to graduates. they could apply for immigrant later.

For PhD students, immigration visa will be issued after graduation.

[HFM181818 750]

However, that is not true today in the US....so, foreign students should go study in Canada....and not depress wages in the US of A...

[Transborderwife 4,666]

Many years ago, student visa policy in Canada is as same as US. Student had to make stories that how desperate he or she hope to leave Canada after graduation. And it is difficult for international student get work permit after graduation -- in order to protect Canadian's job .

The policy was criticized. Why not allow those well educated graduates start work in Canada and pay tax? Government made changes a few years ago:

Now students applicants do not have to make such stories, just show enough fund to visa officer to get visa.

3-years work permit will be issued to graduates. they could apply for immigrant later.

For PhD students, immigration visa will be issued after graduation.

It's not that easy to get a student visa in Canada. I lived with a roommate in Canada who knew very well how limited her time was in Canada as a student