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rock4blaqkhearts   12

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I know this has probably been asked before and I have searched but did not find the information that I need.

I need to file taxes and this is the first year where I am filing as married. My wife is still not in the US so I need to get a ITIN for her I assume.

I know I'm supposed to fill out the W-7 but it asks that I submit an original passport. How can I do that if she is not in the US? She has no American forms of ID, obviously.

I don't mind filing as married filing separately or jointly; whichever is easier.

All I know is that according to the IRS, putting "NRA" in the SSN column is no longer an option.

Any help is appreciated.

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U cannot file as married since she don't have any U.S id, u need to file as single. And for ITIN, she needs to be here, it is a replacement of ssn. If she was dependant on you in America, then u could add her. But not now.

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rock4blaqkhearts   12

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U cannot file as married since she don't have any U.S id, u need to file as single. And for ITIN, she needs to be here, it is a replacement of ssn. If she was dependant on you in America, then u could add her. But not now.

Really? Thanks. That helps a lot. I keep hearing that filing Single after being married is perjury.

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No, people don't know, they just talk without knowing and scare other people. My husband dont have any US Id and I filed as single. This year I wanted to file as married but the tax person said u ll be in trouble if IRS checked that he wasn't here the whole last year.so I have to file single again.

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*** Thread is moved from General Immigration Discussion to the Tax & Finances forum. ***

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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U cannot file as married since she don't have any U.S id, u need to file as single. And for ITIN, she needs to be here, it is a replacement of ssn. If she was dependant on you in America, then u could add her. But not now.

If your married you file as mfs or mfj. If NO ssn or itin you put NRA. Ssn or itin is required to file mfj.

We filed mfs with NRA our first year. The following year we submitted ammended return with w7 when apply for itin. Once we got itin we used that number for filing mfj. After arrival in usa and get ssn then notified irs and banks of change from itin to ssn.

Read IRS Pub 519 and page 14 of IRS 1040 instructions.

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2013/05/03 Married

2013 CFO seminar to change name

2013 Passport issued in married name

USCIS

2015/06/27 Sent I-130

2015/06/29 Priority Date

2015/0701 NOA1

2015/08/05 NOA2

NVC

2015/08/17 Package received at NVC

2015/08/26 Received DS-261/AOS bill

2015/08/29 Sent AOS/IV

2015/08/31 AOS/IV scan date

2015/09/01 DS-260 submitted

2015/09/21 3 n/a (CC)

2015/09/28 Receive confirmation email of CC waiting interview date

2015/10/01 Interview date scheduled (P4)

Manila Embassy

2015/10/12 SLEC Medical, required to get doctor certificate and return the 30th.

2015/10/19 Went to hospital to get the doctors certificate for SLEC

2015/10/30 Appointment with doctor at SLEC for evaluation

2015/11/03 Completed medical

2015/11/05 Interview scheduled - APPROVED

2015/11/06 CEAC changed to issued

2015/11/11 Passport and visa delivered

2015/11/12 Passport stamped at CFO

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rock4blaqkhearts   12

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If your married you file as mfs or mfj. If NO ssn or itin you put NRA. Ssn or itin is required to file mfj.

We filed mfs with NRA our first year. The following year we submitted ammended return with w7 when apply for itin. Once we got itin we used that number for filing mfj. After arrival in usa and get ssn then notified irs and banks of change from itin to ssn.

Read IRS Pub 519 and page 14 of IRS 1040 instructions.

Okay, thanks. I have read this same thing on some more posts recently. I think I'll do the MFS.

Applying for W-7 sounds like a hassle. Is there a need to amend the tax return? I'm hoping that my wife will be here and have her SSN before next year's tax season. I was thinking about just doing MFJ next year and leaving this year's taxes as MFS.

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Okay, thanks. I have read this same thing on some more posts recently. I think I'll do the MFS.

Applying for W-7 sounds like a hassle. Is there a need to amend the tax return? I'm hoping that my wife will be here and have her SSN before next year's tax season. I was thinking about just doing MFJ next year and leaving this year's taxes as MFS.

Ammending from mfs to mfj once she has her SSN will be easier than doing the ITIN. We did the ITIN and ammended return because at the time we needed the extra funds. Tax benefits are worth the effort of ammending from mfs to mfj in situations where there is only one income.

2013/05/03 Married

2013 CFO seminar to change name

2013 Passport issued in married name

USCIS

2015/06/27 Sent I-130

2015/06/29 Priority Date

2015/0701 NOA1

2015/08/05 NOA2

NVC

2015/08/17 Package received at NVC

2015/08/26 Received DS-261/AOS bill

2015/08/29 Sent AOS/IV

2015/08/31 AOS/IV scan date

2015/09/01 DS-260 submitted

2015/09/21 3 n/a (CC)

2015/09/28 Receive confirmation email of CC waiting interview date

2015/10/01 Interview date scheduled (P4)

Manila Embassy

2015/10/12 SLEC Medical, required to get doctor certificate and return the 30th.

2015/10/19 Went to hospital to get the doctors certificate for SLEC

2015/10/30 Appointment with doctor at SLEC for evaluation

2015/11/03 Completed medical

2015/11/05 Interview scheduled - APPROVED

2015/11/06 CEAC changed to issued

2015/11/11 Passport and visa delivered

2015/11/12 Passport stamped at CFO

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I know this has probably been asked before and I have searched but did not find the information that I need.

I need to file taxes and this is the first year where I am filing as married. My wife is still not in the US so I need to get a ITIN for her I assume.

I know I'm supposed to fill out the W-7 but it asks that I submit an original passport. How can I do that if she is not in the US? She has no American forms of ID, obviously.

I don't mind filing as married filing separately or jointly; whichever is easier.

All I know is that according to the IRS, putting "NRA" in the SSN column is no longer an option.

Any help is appreciated.

Cannot file as single once married, though some get away with it. A way around is to prepare using MFS/MFJ/HoH, printing the forms, writing in NRA for ssn, and mailing the forms in.

they just talk without knowing and scare other people.

You seem guilty of the same. There are ways to file being married while lacking an itin/ssn for taxes.

USCIS

January 16, 2015 I-130 Mailed, Chi lockbox January 20, 2015 Priority Date, January 21, 2015 NOA1 notice date, Assigned VSC, January 23, 2015 Check Cashed, electronically March 5, 2015 NOA2

NVC

March 27, 2015 NVC received April 6, 2015 Case#, IIN# assigned April 8, 2015 Paid AOS + IV fee Invoices May 5, 2015 AOS + IV package submitted May 11, 2015 Scan Date

June 11, 2015 DS-260 submitted June 25, 2015 False checklist (for ds260).. hello? June 30, 2015 Answered checklist Aug 5, 2015 Escalated to Supervisor review Aug 13, 2015 Case Complete

Consular

Sept 10, 2015 Interview Scheduled Sept 11, 2015 P4 Letter received Sept 21, 2015 file In transit from NVC Sept 23, 2015 file at Embassy

Sept 28, 2015 Medical Oct 14, 2015 Biometrics Oct 15, 2015 Interview (Approved) Oct 19, 2015 IV visa Issued Oct 23, 2015 Passport Pickup

POE

Nov 2, 2015 Entered the US Nov 16, 2015 Applied for SSN, walk-in Nov 20, 2015 Social Security Card recd Jan 15, 2016 GC received

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