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And yet this 250 year old legal seed has grown into a tree that most of us consider to be better than virtually every other tree on the planet.

People have not evolved in the past 250 years. We have the same psychology, the same weakness. The same ones we had then, the same ones then people had 1000 years before that and 10000 years before that. The constitution was masterfully created to give a framework that is still very relevant today.

What is antiquated about the 1st amendment? This is what literally every single decent country in the planet has: freedom of speech and of the press and of religion. What is antiquated about preventing arbitrary searches of people (4th)? Or forcing them to talk (5th)?

I didn't even mention the 2nd because it is so contested. Who contests the bulk of the rest of the constitution?

When it needs to be changed it is amended, not always as fast as it should be, but there is a mechanism for it.

Personal bias, or do you have evidence to back that up?

That second paragraph is scary. People have not evolved? Same psychiology and same weaknesses? My friend, that is simply untrue and impossible.

Nothing is antiquated about the first amendment, it should stay as written.

The second is a joke in today's times, it desparately needs to be changed.

The current process for changing the constitution is nearly impossible with the way the politics of this country has changed. You can't get 2/3rds of the country and congress to agree on anything.

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The founder's had great vision, but they had no way of knowing we'd devolve, as a nation, into a bunch of dumbasses. There was no way to plan for that, and after all they went through, you can't really fault them for it.

I try to fight dumbassery, at least twice a week. So far, it's a fulfilling hobby.

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Great reasons why the Constitution should be re-evaluated every 50 years or so. Times and people change. While I give every bit of credit to the founding fathers for what they created, no one has the ability to predict the future. The fact that this country still uses a document that is nearly 250 years old as the law of the land really doesn't make much sense..

Teddy, you are just wrong.

Noah came down from Mount Sinai with the Bill of Rights, carved in stone, signed by John Hancock, and that means nothing to you?!?! You want to re-evaluate this?!?!

Blasphemy!!

And, by the way, you think this holy document is only 250 years old. Why do you hate science? We're talking millions of years here.

 

 

 

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Teddy, you are just wrong.

Noah came down from Mount Sinai with the Bill of Rights, carved in stone, signed by John Hancock, and that means nothing to you?!?! You want to re-evaluate this?!?!

Blasphemy!!

And, by the way, you think this holy document is only 250 years old. Why do you hate science? We're talking millions of years here.

B_J, thank you for pointing out the errors in my thinking. Based on the fact that man has not evolved in the last million years, I stand corrected. I do believe however that the invention of the space saucer by George Jetson in the year 1503A.D. was a clear sign that John Hancock was out of touch with reality and well behind the times when he professed "You have nothing to fear, but fear itself". It has been proven time and time again that we do in fact need to fear the Flying Spaghetti Monsters and Cowboys on Unicorns.

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The founder's had great vision, but they had no way of knowing we'd devolve, as a nation, into a bunch of dumbasses. There was no way to plan for that, and after all they went through, you can't really fault them for it.

Spot on! I think an effect of not learning from past experiences relative to us dumbasses.

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Great reasons why the Constitution should be re-evaluated every 50 years or so. Times and people change. While I give every bit of credit to the founding fathers for what they created, no one has the ability to predict the future. The fact that this country still uses a document that is nearly 250 years old as the law of the land really doesn't make much sense..

I think that may have been the most difficult thing the founders faced when writing the constitution (other than the obvious treason potential after the Declaration of Independence) was how easy to make it to change. Of course when the nation was young it was relatively easy to change it, but now it is almost impossible. If they ever get around to a Constitutional Convention I agree, there needs to be a regular review.

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I am afraid if Hillary wins the next chief justice will be whoever contributes the most money to the Clinton foundation!

Yes, which is why I'm so glad Republican candidates are above taking money from the wealthy to vote one way or the other. Maybe if we are really lucky, we'll get some Evangelical leaning justices, what possibly could go wrong there?

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