Grandfather was a natural born US Citizen(deceased), father (deceased) unsure if he was a U.S citizen, do the kids has a chance to claim Citizenship?

[POA 178]

Hi guys,

As the title states, the grandfather was a natural born US Citizen(deceased), father (deceased) unsure if he was a U.S citizen, do the kids has a chance to claim Citizenship? All of them are grown up.

If the father was never a U.S Citizen that means they don't have a claim, but if he was a U.S. Citizen, can the kids claim U.S. Citizenship?

How will they be able to check if the deceased father was a U.S. Citizen?

Thanks,

Shiela

Edited February 2, 2016 by POA

[Dohan 133]

If the father was a US citizen, the kids might be able to get citizenship through an N-600 application. That's the short answer.

Were both grandparents USCs? Where was the father born (through whom the children are trying to claim)? Did he ever hold a US passport? Best bet is to contact the US embassy or consulate. If this father was born abroad and never claimed US citizenship I am honestly not sure how to proceed, as in, if US citizenship can be awarded posthumously. Please keep us updated, very interesting

[POA 178]

If the father was a US citizen, the kids might be able to get citizenship through an N-600 application. That's the short answer.

Were both grandparents USCs? Where was the father born (through whom the children are trying to claim)? Did he ever hold a US passport? Best bet is to contact the US embassy or consulate. If this father was born abroad and never claimed US citizenship I am honestly not sure how to proceed, as in, if US citizenship can be awarded posthumously. Please keep us updated, very interesting

Hi Dohan,

I am not sure with the details but I think the grandfather was in the military when they were in the PH. The father, seemed to be adopted in papers but they said that he might be a biological son (with a different mother), that was why he carried his dad's (grandfather) last name. So if they contact the Embassy, can they ask if the father was listed as a U.S. Citizen? If the father was listed a U.S. Citizen, then can they apply for the N-400?

[aaa2zzz 27]

If the father did not live in the USA for enough time, even though he was a US citizen, he would not be able to pass on citizenship to his children born abroad

[POA 178]

If the father did not live in the USA for enough time, even though he was a US citizen, he would not be able to pass on citizenship to his children born abroad

Thanks aaa2zzz! If the father lived in the US for at least 5 years and was a U.S. Citizen then they could try claiming?

[aaa2zzz 27]

you have to be able to prove it. The time periods depend on several factors. Proof would be school or income records I suppose.

http://photos.state.gov/libraries/adelaide/171311/consular/Transmission%20Requirements%20Table.pdf

[newacct 688]

When was the father born? Was he born in wedlock or out of wedlock? Do you know anything about the father's biological mother (e.g. was she a US citizen when she gave birth to the father)?

[POA 178]

When was the father born? Was he born in wedlock or out of wedlock? Do you know anything about the father's biological mother (e.g. was she a US citizen when she gave birth to the father)?

Hi Newacct!

I am not sure when was he born but I can definitely find out! The mother is probably not a USC as I know the father was half. Aside from the year of birth and if he lived in the US, is there anything else that we should know to determine his kids eligibility? All I know at the moment was he was adopted by the american but they think that he was a biological son by the grandfather but with other woman. I can try to confirm with the grandkid if what he knows since I am getting the info from a third party.