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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Hey all!

Hypothetical question for a friend, so bare with me...

He is Canadian. She is American. They want to marry, but not move yet. She will *eventually* move to Canada.

Are they able to marry in the US, at a courthouse, while he visits on a B2 visa? He has ZERO intention of staying in the US. She would move to Canada at a later date.

Or would it be simpler/ "more" legal to marry in Canada and import her as a foreign spouse? (I'm not sure of the protocol for importing an American spouse into Canada... can someone link me to some information on that?)

Hopefully someone can speak to this situation, I appreciate any and all responses!

October 2007 - Met in school

December 14/2007 - Started dating

~ 2 to 4 visits a year between Canada & USA ~

Sept 10/2015 - Engaged! (FINALLY!) :wub:

K1 Fiancee Visa Journey!

Sept 15/2015 - Sent I-129F package to USCIS Lewisville, TX Lockbox via FedEx from California

Sept 17/2015 - FedEx confirmed delivery at Lockbox/ USCIS confirms receipt via website

Sept 22/2015 - NOA1: USCIS Email stating receipt of I-129F package

Oct 22/2015 - NOA2: Confirmation via Case Tracker APP

Oct 26/2015 - NOA2 Hardcopy in the mail!

Nov 25/2015 - Package 3 in the mail

Nov 27/2015 - Package 3 emailed to Vancouver Consulate

Lost the dates... but Package 4 came and went.

No issues!

Feb 26/2016 - Medical @ Dr. Cheema's office in Vancouver

Mar 1/2016 - K1 Interview @ Vancouver Consular Generals Office - Approved!

Mar 28/2016 - POE!

May 28/2016 - Wedding!

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Canada
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CanCal, this is exactly what my sister did (although she will eventually be going to live in the US). Just make sure your friend is honest at the border and brings documentation with him. Customs are only interested in ensuring that he will not be staying in the country after the marriage. My sister was up front, told them that she was entering to get married but intended to leave after the honeymoon and apply for a CR1. She had copies of her return ticket, a wedding invitation, a copy of the list of guest attending, copy of the honeymoon reservations, but most importantly copies items that tied her back to Canada, property tax bill, pay stub and utility bills. The CO was good with everything and thanked her for being so prepared and allow her in with a 6 month stamp.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Lots of us married our spouses in the U.S. and then went back home to file. Why does he need a B2 visa?

USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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CanCal, this is exactly what my sister did (although she will eventually be going to live in the US). Just make sure your friend is honest at the border and brings documentation with him. Customs are only interested in ensuring that he will not be staying in the country after the marriage. My sister was up front, told them that she was entering to get married but intended to leave after the honeymoon and apply for a CR1. She had copies of her return ticket, a wedding invitation, a copy of the list of guest attending, copy of the honeymoon reservations, but most importantly copies items that tied her back to Canada, property tax bill, pay stub and utility bills. The CO was good with everything and thanked her for being so prepared and allow her in with a 6 month stamp.

This is perfect, thank you for the explanation! I had a feeling this was something he could do, I just had no real information on it as I am solely focused on the K1 process. I'll pass this along to my friend.

Ms Hogan, on 03 Feb 2016 - 8:37 PM, said:

Lots of us married our spouses in the U.S. and then went back home to file. Why does he need a B2 visa?

good question ! . i am sorry for my assumption, may be the husband is not a Canadian citizen.

^^ In response to this, he is a Canadian citizen. He wouldn't be able to enter the US without a B2 visa... it's what the CBP officers (sometimes) stamp your passport with when a Canadian enters the US. Canadians are "automatically" granted that visa status when we enter the US for travel. :)

October 2007 - Met in school

December 14/2007 - Started dating

~ 2 to 4 visits a year between Canada & USA ~

Sept 10/2015 - Engaged! (FINALLY!) :wub:

K1 Fiancee Visa Journey!

Sept 15/2015 - Sent I-129F package to USCIS Lewisville, TX Lockbox via FedEx from California

Sept 17/2015 - FedEx confirmed delivery at Lockbox/ USCIS confirms receipt via website

Sept 22/2015 - NOA1: USCIS Email stating receipt of I-129F package

Oct 22/2015 - NOA2: Confirmation via Case Tracker APP

Oct 26/2015 - NOA2 Hardcopy in the mail!

Nov 25/2015 - Package 3 in the mail

Nov 27/2015 - Package 3 emailed to Vancouver Consulate

Lost the dates... but Package 4 came and went.

No issues!

Feb 26/2016 - Medical @ Dr. Cheema's office in Vancouver

Mar 1/2016 - K1 Interview @ Vancouver Consular Generals Office - Approved!

Mar 28/2016 - POE!

May 28/2016 - Wedding!

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This is perfect, thank you for the explanation! I had a feeling this was something he could do, I just had no real information on it as I am solely focused on the K1 process. I'll pass this along to my friend.

Ms Hogan, on 03 Feb 2016 - 8:37 PM, said:

good question ! . i am sorry for my assumption, may be the husband is not a Canadian citizen.

^^ In response to this, he is a Canadian citizen. He wouldn't be able to enter the US without a B2 visa... it's what the CBP officers (sometimes) stamp your passport with when a Canadian enters the US. Canadians are "automatically" granted that visa status when we enter the US for travel. :)

that is correct. thanks for the clarification.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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This is perfect, thank you for the explanation! I had a feeling this was something he could do, I just had no real information on it as I am solely focused on the K1 process. I'll pass this along to my friend.

Ms Hogan, on 03 Feb 2016 - 8:37 PM, said:

good question ! . i am sorry for my assumption, may be the husband is not a Canadian citizen.

^^ In response to this, he is a Canadian citizen. He wouldn't be able to enter the US without a B2 visa... it's what the CBP officers (sometimes) stamp your passport with when a Canadian enters the US. Canadians are "automatically" granted that visa status when we enter the US for travel. :)

I was thinking of a B-1 which is for business. I have never in 25 years of traveling back and forth to the U.S. had a stamp in my passport except when I was working/training so I don't think of it as a B-2.

USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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