My boyfriend got denied tourist visa. Advice please

[HFM181818 750]

A fine example of what I have been saying....COs do not interview documents and are statistically unlikely to approve a visa based on papers compared to denying visa applications accompanied by phony papers. Credibility of the applicant is paramount, and no paper can wrap an applicant up in some kind of credibility blanket. The applicant must convince the CO that they are a bona fide visitor for pleasure who fully intends to abide by the terms of the object of trust the applicant is seeking. Strong COs can sort out the bad from the good fairly fast....it's the 'in-betweeners' that are challenging to adjudicate.

[Cathi 5,771]

Hi all,

My boyfriend who is Albanian got denied a B1/B2 visa under section 214(b) in Italy. He had an affidavit of support from my parents, and all the supporting documents including a letter from his boss at work, photos of his family, and proof that he and I would return to Italy with him. The person who interviewed him didn't even really look at his supporting documents, the only mistake I think we made was saying that he wanted to visit for 4 months. My questions is, would it be worth it to even try applying again and saying he wants to come for shorter period of time? Our only other option is beginning the K1 fiancé visa, although I wanted him to visit the states before we did that. Any advice is appreciated!

there is no affidavit of support for a visitor visa. Period. Where do people get that idea? He must apply and be approved on his own merits and his merits ALONE. He must prove strong ties to his home country to prove he will return.

Yea It's probably a lost cause to apply again... Oh well looks like K1 it is.

So you are going to marry him only in order to get him here? Really?

[KierenHby 899]

there is no affidavit of support for a visitor visa.

Technically, not quite true. Based on a review of some websites, many still use the I-134. It's effectiveness can be argued, but some folks I know personally swear by it.

So much so that my own in-laws believe a tourist visa sponsorship exists.

[HFM181818 750]

from a retired CO: there is NO legal requirement that any B2 visa application be accompanied by one of the most worthless documents on the planet, such as an I-134....a document that has been shown to be unenforceable and has no legal basis to be considered worthwhile in 'support' of anyone seeking a B2 visa.

[michellemakana 4]

there is no affidavit of support for a visitor visa. Period. Where do people get that idea? He must apply and be approved on his own merits and his merits ALONE. He must prove strong ties to his home country to prove he will return.

So you are going to marry him only in order to get him here? Really?

Yea I now understand that, I never thought there was an affidavit of support solely for a visitor visa I just thought it could help. No I won't be marrying him just to get him to the states. We've been together for 3 years, I would marry him because I want to spend the rest of my life with him.

[KierenHby 899]

"..there is no affidavit of support for a visitor visa.."

I was responding to this particular quote.

from a retired CO: there is NO legal requirement that any B2 visa application be accompanied by one of the most worthless documents on the planet, such as an I-134....a document that has been shown to be unenforceable and has no legal basis to be considered worthwhile in 'support' of anyone seeking a B2 visa.

[Amadia 711]

Yea I now understand that, I never thought there was an affidavit of support solely for a visitor visa I just thought it could help. No I won't be marrying him just to get him to the states. We've been together for 3 years, I would marry him because I want to spend the rest of my life with him.

And that is where your boyfriend...or rather, fiance....would have to prove that the relationship is indeed bona fide in its entirety. Many ppl think that, just because they get thru to reside in the US, that's the end of it....well, it's not.

You have the task of getting thru the POE at the airport, then after getting married your fiance will have to file for Adjustment of Status....this is touch and go since they can deny this application based on lack of evidence of a bona fide marriage. If successful, then the part of naturalization comes into play.

I'm not saying these things to scare you but these are the realities that ppl just like you and I face on a daily basis. Past experiences of others help to not let future filers make the same mistakes.

Good luck in your future!

[michellemakana 4]

And that is where your boyfriend...or rather, fiance....would have to prove that the relationship is indeed bona fide in its entirety. Many ppl think that, just because they get thru to reside in the US, that's the end of it....well, it's not.

You have the task of getting thru the POE at the airport, then after getting married your fiance will have to file for Adjustment of Status....this is touch and go since they can deny this application based on lack of evidence of a bona fide marriage. If successful, then the part of naturalization comes into play.

I'm not saying these things to scare you but these are the realities that ppl just like you and I face on a daily basis. Past experiences of others help to not let future filers make the same mistakes.

Good luck in your future!

Thanks for the help! It is a bit scary, but will be worth it in the end

[NikLR 13,227]

Good luck on your K1.

at least your thread may help others in the future. If you feel that your thread questions have been answered you can hit report and ask a mod to close it.

[jayme2001 1]

My boyfriend was denied twice for a tourist visa in Brazil, basically because he is poor and couldn't "demonstrate adequate ties to Brazil" to convince the person he would return. The first denial was awful, in and out, not a word about why...etc. We applied again, I wrote a letter of invitation and a list of the "ties" to brazil and encouraged him to advocate for himself in the interview.

He came out smiling and happy, but denied, He reported that the woman there was kind, read all of the materials and said, that she believed him,.

that she thought he deserved a tourist visa to visit me, meet my family and learn about our culture here, however, she said that it was not up to her

personally, but the system in the computer, and he just didn't meet the qualification, but they won't say the exact qualifications of course.

So...she also started asking questions about me, and who I was, and why we were traveling together in the Amazon on and off since 2010, and asked point blank if I was his girlfriend, he said that I was and she said if he wanted any hope of visiting the states, we should seriously consider getting married, which we did consider for the three months I was there this last trip, and decided to go for it.

I am just about ready to file K-1, but the passport photo is too small, and old and I don't want to risk it, so I have to discover a way to

get another one of him.....as he lives SO rurally it will be hard, but we can wait, things that are real and worth waiting for.

Welcome to the K-1 train.......

[gitgit 0]

I got rejected too on my 1st attempt to get B1 visa. I submitted all supporting documents. I had a good job and letter from my company. Good income, etc etc. And only wanted to visit US for 2 weeks meeting/visiting my fiancé and his family. At first, he told me the rejection was because I don't have a good job and good income. Which was a BS. Showed him my salary, the letter from the company. He didn't even want to look at them. I kept questioning him why I got rejected, Then finally he told me he thought I would stay and marry my fiancé.

Then I asked him whether I can apply again for another B1 visa and when should I apply for it. He told me you can, but I wouldn't apply it for another 6 months. That's why my fiancé and I finally decided to straight apply the K1 visa. And thank God, it's approved.

My friend applied for 2 times, both ended with rejection. They finally applied for K1 visa and got approved.

[HFM181818 750]

and that pretty much substantiates the COs' decisions to deny....because K1s were filed shortly after the denials...which strongly suggests that the ever popular 'mind change' would have taken place while the luggage was making its way around the carousel....notice that in each described situation, the K1s were filed within a relatively short period of time....so the foreign fiancé easily abandoned whatever 'ties' they had to their own country....and so much for letters of support, etc....none of those would have prevented the mind change that would have likely occurred before the foreign fiancé cleared customs.

[JoBri 548]

My wife was denied tourist visa, before we were married, so 4 months later I flew there and married her. Then we applied to bring her here to the USA as my wife.

[Boiler 45,692]

Basic facts

Albania High Fraud, from what I can gather highest in Europe.

No Permanent Job, works for his Uncle.

US GF

Applying at a Consulate not in his home country.

No money to support his trip.

[Unlockable 7,315]

Yea It's probably a lost cause to apply again... Oh well looks like K1 it is.

My boyfriend was denied twice for a tourist visa in Brazil, basically because he is poor and couldn't "demonstrate adequate ties to Brazil" to convince the person he would return. The first denial was awful, in and out, not a word about why...etc. We applied again, I wrote a letter of invitation and a list of the "ties" to brazil and encouraged him to advocate for himself in the interview.

He came out smiling and happy, but denied, He reported that the woman there was kind, read all of the materials and said, that she believed him,.

that she thought he deserved a tourist visa to visit me, meet my family and learn about our culture here, however, she said that it was not up to her

personally, but the system in the computer, and he just didn't meet the qualification, but they won't say the exact qualifications of course.

So...she also started asking questions about me, and who I was, and why we were traveling together in the Amazon on and off since 2010, and asked point blank if I was his girlfriend, he said that I was and she said if he wanted any hope of visiting the states, we should seriously consider getting married, which we did consider for the three months I was there this last trip, and decided to go for it.

I am just about ready to file K-1, but the passport photo is too small, and old and I don't want to risk it, so I have to discover a way to

get another one of him.....as he lives SO rurally it will be hard, but we can wait, things that are real and worth waiting for.

Welcome to the K-1 train.......

I got rejected too on my 1st attempt to get B1 visa. I submitted all supporting documents. I had a good job and letter from my company. Good income, etc etc. And only wanted to visit US for 2 weeks meeting/visiting my fiancé and his family. At first, he told me the rejection was because I don't have a good job and good income. Which was a BS. Showed him my salary, the letter from the company. He didn't even want to look at them. I kept questioning him why I got rejected, Then finally he told me he thought I would stay and marry my fiancé.

Then I asked him whether I can apply again for another B1 visa and when should I apply for it. He told me you can, but I wouldn't apply it for another 6 months. That's why my fiancé and I finally decided to straight apply the K1 visa. And thank God, it's approved.

My friend applied for 2 times, both ended with rejection. They finally applied for K1 visa and got approved.

My wife was denied tourist visa, before we were married, so 4 months later I flew there and married her. Then we applied to bring her here to the USA as my wife.

Just from this thread alone there is an observation where there seems to be a common denominator to all of these post of similar situations. Which resonates the reason why many people who have significant others in the U.S. are denied.