Drug Policy

[LionessDeon 2,060]

I really don't want to get in a big debate on the morality of drug use and possession. I completely understand the position of not allowing criminals to immigrate.

What I can't deal with is the inconsistency. My fiancé has a charge on his record from 11 years ago. The charge isn't for possession, trafficking, or selling. No jail time he only paid $10 fine and was released. Matter of fact his charge is not even an offense in the USA. That was our ONLY issue in this grievance process. Everything else is in order.

I understand drugs are not acceptable but when I see others approved and not found inadmissible no waiver required it really burns me up. Rules should be rules. The same should apply for everyone. There should be strict set guidelines of acceptable charges and inexcusable charges and that should be it. End of story.

[Boiler 46,299]

So a very different situation to the OP.

[N-o-l-a 7,168]

From your other thread, you had said you were already in the Netherlands, what exactly would be a benefit to you to not living there permanently? I think you'll find that there is not a net sum gain to you moving to America together. It seems a shame to put so much money and effort into something that is rather futile rather than just kind of embracing the Netherlands.

Edited January 25, 2016 by N-o-l-a

[RobertM54 36]

Drug use can lead to addiction, lots of health issues and mental issues which means that person needs help getting treatment for drug addiction, health and mental conditions which effects society. Many of the mental conditions associated with the drug use can make people violent which effects other people.

Drug use also has negative effect on the person's friends and family. So no, drug use doesn't just effect the person doing drugs.

Sugar use can lead to addiction, lots of health issues and mental issues which means that person needs help getting treatment for sugar addiction, health and mental conditions which effects society. Many of the mental conditions associated with the sugar use can make people fat and moody which effects other people.

Sugar use also has negative effect on the person's friends and family. So no, sugar use doesn't just effect the person doing sugar.

[AnAmericanInLove 1]

Sugar use can lead to addiction, lots of health issues and mental issues which means that person needs help getting treatment for sugar addiction, health and mental conditions which effects society. Many of the mental conditions associated with the sugar use can make people fat and moody which effects other people.

Sugar use also has negative effect on the person's friends and family. So no, sugar use doesn't just effect the person doing sugar.

lol. thank you. i needed that. much love!

[Boiler 46,299]

Sugar can obviously lead to medical issues that may cause consequences for immigrating to the US, not an obvious call.

[AnAmericanInLove 1]

I really don't want to get in a big debate on the morality of drug use and possession. I completely understand the position of not allowing criminals to immigrate.

What I can't deal with is the inconsistency. My fiancé has a charge on his record from 11 years ago. The charge isn't for possession, trafficking, or selling. No jail time he only paid $10 fine and was released. Matter of fact his charge is not even an offense in the USA. That was our ONLY issue in this grievance process. Everything else is in order.

I understand drugs are not acceptable but when I see others approved and not found inadmissible no waiver required it really burns me up. Rules should be rules. The same should apply for everyone. There should be strict set guidelines of acceptable charges and inexcusable charges and that should be it. End of story.

To each their own.

I think the morality needs to be addressed, because in America, to become a criminal, it doesn't take that much. The definition for a criminal in the drug situation includes anyone who may have even considered breaking any law with drugs. There are waivers for violent crimes, and yet none for drugs. I don't believe all drug crime is immoral and detrimental to the social fabric of our nation. It's a very strange system, and its inflexibility encourages dishonesty.

[Unidentified 2,930]

I'm going to assume that all of you who think drugs are not a big deal thinks marijuana is the only drug in the world.

[Unidentified 2,930]

Sugar use can lead to addiction, lots of health issues and mental issues which means that person needs help getting treatment for sugar addiction, health and mental conditions which effects society. Many of the mental conditions associated with the sugar use can make people fat and moody which effects other people.

Sugar use also has negative effect on the person's friends and family. So no, sugar use doesn't just effect the person doing sugar.

Sure sugar can lead to diabetes and cancer. But when you overdose it, sugar can't stop your heart it just makes you feel sick. Sugar doesn't have the ability to cause psychosis or lead to a higher risk of schizophrenia. Sugar can't lead to a higher risk of getting HIV because of your lifestyle. A sugar addiction is pretty easy and painless to get out of it. Getting off drugs can be both hard and dangerous.

[LionessDeon 2,060]

I'm going to assume that all of you who think drugs are not a big deal thinks marijuana is the only drug in the world.

I've never once said drugs are not a big deal. I simply said I didn't want to get into a debate about it right here and now. I only wanted to make the point that at the embassy in JA not everyone gets the same consequence and there is such inconsistency.

My fiancé is not a drug addict. He isn't a criminal. We talked in great length about this and I know his current lifestyle is quite different from 10 years ago.

People make mistakes. People grow up. People do learn. People do change.

Edited February 2, 2016 by LionessDeon

[AnAmericanInLove 1]

I'm going to assume that all of you who think drugs are not a big deal thinks marijuana is the only drug in the world.

No. I think there are many drugs in this world.Thank you to our failed policies and drug wars, drugs are viewed with a stigma. I don't advocate alcohol use, but it's legal and causes just as many problems if not more, than drugs. There is no alcohol test for people who want to immigrate. I don't believe there should be a double standard.

[Transborderwife 4,666]

No. I think there are many drugs in this world.Thank you to our failed policies and drug wars, drugs are viewed with a stigma. I don't advocate alcohol use, but it's legal and causes just as many problems if not more, than drugs. There is no alcohol test for people who want to immigrate. I don't believe there should be a double standard.

Alcohol is legal, drugs are not. Zero double standard, end of story.

[AnAmericanInLove 1]

Alcohol is a drug. I don't understand why that is a difficult connection to make.

[Transborderwife 4,666]

Alcohol is a drug. I don't understand why that is a difficult connection to make.

Is it a difficult connection that it's currently legal and drugs aren't?

I'm not asking if its right or not, just the fact that the rules and laws are in place.

[La Souris 19]

No. I think there are many drugs in this world.Thank you to our failed policies and drug wars, drugs are viewed with a stigma. I don't advocate alcohol use, but it's legal and causes just as many problems if not more, than drugs. There is no alcohol test for people who want to immigrate. I don't believe there should be a double standard.

Actually, I remember a few failed medical exams because of alcohol drinking in London...