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Deone Slater, owner and master barber at Kangaroo Kutz in Akron, had enough of the antics of Daniel Kovacevic, 25, who was walking around with a rifle strapped to his back.

An Akron, Ohio, barbershop owner had enough of one young white man who was walking around the neighborhood with a rifle on his back, so he confronted the 25-year-old outside his shop on Thursday and called the police, Cleveland.com reports.

Deone Slater, owner of Kangaroo Kutz, did not want Daniel Kovacevic in front of his shop that morning. "He was a threat to my community," Slater told the news site. "If I can prevent him from shooting up the city, I would. I won't condone it. Somebody's got to stand up."

Police arrived shortly after and tried to calm Slater, who was reportedly shouting at Kovacevic.

"[slater] was obviously emotional and concerned about his safety and the safety of everyone in the community," Police Sgt. Doug Sandor said.

"I told [Kovacevic] to take his guns off," Slater said. "I told him let me have five or 10 minutes with him without his weapons."

Slater also called officers out for trying to calm him instead of engaging with Kovacevic. "[The police] asked me why do I have a problem," Slater said. "He's a threat to me and my people. He's a threat to me.

"[The police] were more concerned about me than him, as if I were the threat," he added. "It it were me with a gun, they would have shut the whole block down."

Officers are claiming that they have their hands tied—even as Akron police spokesman Lt. Rick Edwards acknowledged that the man has been spotted in predominantly black communities—because of Ohio's gun laws, which allow open carry.

Some, however, aren't too thrilled with the police response and suggest that race may be a factor in the toned-down response, especially considering the deaths of Tamir Rice and John Crawford, both of whom were shot in Ohio by police while carrying toy weapons.

"It's different if it's a black person. People say it isn't, but it is," one person, 26-year-old Traneece Johnson, told the site, referencing Tamir. "[Kovacevic] was approached, and they gave him a chance to speak and say he was expressing his right. The little boy didn't get that chance."

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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mind your own business, doing something legal, and be labeled a threat to someone's community.
ironic the person using that label wanted to fight the one exercising his rights to open carry....... :huh:

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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mind your own business, doing something legal, and be labeled a threat to someone's community.

ironic the person using that label wanted to fight the one exercising his rights to open carry....... :huh:

Do you wear a rifle when you head out to pick up a gallon of milk?

The content available on a site dedicated to bringing folks to America should not be promoting racial discord, euro-supremacy, discrimination based on religion , exclusion of groups from immigration based on where they were born, disenfranchisement of voters rights based on how they might vote.

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Deone Slater, owner and master barber at Kangaroo Kutz in Akron, had enough of the antics of Daniel Kovacevic, 25, who was walking around with a rifle strapped to his back.

An Akron, Ohio, barbershop owner had enough of one young white man who was walking around the neighborhood with a rifle on his back, so he confronted the 25-year-old outside his shop on Thursday and called the police, Cleveland.com reports.

Deone Slater, owner of Kangaroo Kutz, did not want Daniel Kovacevic in front of his shop that morning. "He was a threat to my community," Slater told the news site. "If I can prevent him from shooting up the city, I would. I won't condone it. Somebody's got to stand up."

Police arrived shortly after and tried to calm Slater, who was reportedly shouting at Kovacevic.

"[slater] was obviously emotional and concerned about his safety and the safety of everyone in the community," Police Sgt. Doug Sandor said.

"I told [Kovacevic] to take his guns off," Slater said. "I told him let me have five or 10 minutes with him without his weapons."

Slater also called officers out for trying to calm him instead of engaging with Kovacevic. "[The police] asked me why do I have a problem," Slater said. "He's a threat to me and my people. He's a threat to me.

"[The police] were more concerned about me than him, as if I were the threat," he added. "It it were me with a gun, they would have shut the whole block down."

Officers are claiming that they have their hands tiedeven as Akron police spokesman Lt. Rick Edwards acknowledged that the man has been spotted in predominantly black communitiesbecause of Ohio's gun laws, which allow open carry.

Some, however, aren't too thrilled with the police response and suggest that race may be a factor in the toned-down response, especially considering the deaths of Tamir Rice and John Crawford, both of whom were shot in Ohio by police while carrying toy weapons.

"It's different if it's a black person. People say it isn't, but it is," one person, 26-year-old Traneece Johnson, told the site, referencing Tamir. "[Kovacevic] was approached, and they gave him a chance to speak and say he was expressing his right. The little boy didn't get that chance."

http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2015/12/ohio_barber_confronts_white_man_walking_around_black_neighborhoods_carrying.html?wpisrc=ck_facebook_CK-ROOT.AA-TRF-A03-FB-FBLP-FKW-US-AA-BO-18-R42

Of course it's racial everything is. However gun owners that do stupid ####### like that, hurt the causw. Just because it's legal to burn a flag or fart on an elevator does not mean you should.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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Do you wear a rifle when you head out to pick up a gallon of milk?

this story isn't about me nor a gallon of milk.

* ~ * Charles * ~ *
 

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Of course it's racial everything is. However gun owners that do stupid ####### like that, hurt the causw. Just because it's legal to burn a flag or fart on an elevator does not mean you should.

Fortunately, it's legal to be an #######.

Should the guy be confronted for being an ####### however? Absolutely.

I can't help but wonder how pro-open carry Kovacevic would be if black men began walking around predominately white Cleveland suburbs with rifles..

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I don't think that an intelligent discussion can be had without input from the "White Man Walking Around Black Neighborhood With Gun" but race appears to be in the thread title so I can see how Nature Boy missed it. RIF.

Seriously though, was he walking home from work? School? Squirrel hunting in the park?

I don't recall ever being concerned about the rifles on racks in pick-up trucks back when I was in High School. Many students went hunting before school started and of course mass shooting incidents were very rare. I kind of think that it's 2016 and times have changed.

What was the alleged purpose of walking around with a rifle?

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I guess they are making a point. What point? Who knows? I think that a fair amount of these cases are done by anti-gun nuts.

I don't think that the gentleman with the rifle was anti-gun. It sounds like this wasn't a one time event but his alleged reason for carrying a rifle around aren't even mentioned in the article.

Very strange story.

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  • July 16, 2006 Met in person on her birthday in United Arab Emirates
  • August 4, 2006 sent certified mail I-129F packet Neb SC
  • August 9, 2006 NOA1
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  • October 4, 5, 7, 13 & 17 2006 Touches! 50 day address change... Yes Judith is beautiful, quit staring at her passport photo and approve us!!! Shaming works! LOL
  • October 13, 2006 NOA2! November 2, 2006 NOA2? Huh? NVC already processed and sent us on to Abu Dhabi Consulate!
  • February 12, 2007 Abu Dhabi Interview SUCCESS!!! February 14 Visa in hand!
  • March 6, 2007 she is here!
  • MARCH 14, 2007 WE ARE MARRIED!!!
  • May 5, 2007 Sent AOS/EAD packet
  • May 11, 2007 NOA1 AOS/EAD
  • June 7, 2007 Biometrics appointment
  • June 8, 2007 first post biometrics touch, June 11, next touch...
  • August 1, 2007 AOS Interview! APPROVED!! EAD APPROVED TOO...
  • August 6, 2007 EAD card and Welcome Letter received!
  • August 13, 2007 GREEN CARD received!!! 375 days since mailing the I-129F!

    Remove Conditions:

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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Racial turf pissing carries consequences.

Spoiler

 

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NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

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Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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Why is race even mentioned. Fan the flames

The topic headline in itself :rolleyes:

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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If he was going from point A to point B with a rifle, fine no one should bother him. If he lingers or walks in circles, loiters he is probably another

mentally challenged person who could go postal at any time. I would be afraid if I saw it in my neighborhood. The level of creepiness depends on the motive

and intent.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

Posted

If he was going from point A to point B with a rifle, fine no one should bother him. If he lingers or walks in circles, loiters he is probably another

mentally challenged person who could go postal at any time. I would be afraid if I saw it in my neighborhood. The level of creepiness depends on the motive

and intent.

I'll go as far to say that anyone in this day and age that thinks open carry is a good idea is challenged in the active brain cell area.

 

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