Drug Possession Charge...I'm sure you've heard this before...

[AnAmericanInLove 1]

Just so you know MDMA was used as a diet drug and an antidepressant type drug already. When they found out the harsh effects it had on the body they made it illegal and yes E today is worse than any other drug because it is no longer pure. They use household chemicals to make it. MDMA hash harsh side effects to serotonin hence why when someone comes off of it they are depressed. You have a better chance at seeing LSD make a comeback for medical treatment than MDMA so don't get your hopes up. It is still a harsh punishment for having it...but hey stranger things have happened. They may find a way to regulate the side effects.

Out of curiosity, where and when was MDMA licensed for being an anti-depressant and a diet drug? Any years? Articles? References?

what was the RFE for?

Oh, they either lost or missed one of the original documents sent in. Just have to resend it now.

[Transborderwife 4,666]

Out of curiosity, where and when was MDMA licensed for being an anti-depressant and a diet drug? Any years? Articles? References?

Oh, they either lost or missed one of the original documents sent in. Just have to resend it now.

No source, but I believe it was used in the 60s and 70s before being barred in 1984

[Boiler 45,542]

Coca Cola contained Cocaine at one time.

Coca Cola contained Cocaine at one time.

[N and J 88]

No source, but I believe it was used in the 60s and 70s before being barred in 1984

It was originally marketed as a diet drug in the early 1900s. Then in the last 70s early 80s it was used therapy.

http://www.narconon.org/drug-information/ecstasy-history.html

Out of curiosity, where and when was MDMA licensed for being an anti-depressant and a diet drug? Any years? Articles? References?

Oh, they either lost or missed one of the original documents sent in. Just have to resend it now.

http://www.narconon.org/drug-information/ecstasy-history.html

[AnAmericanInLove 1]

"Since MDMA had already been patented in 1913, it held no profit potential for a drug company, as a drug cannot be patented twice and before marketing a new drug, a company has to show that the potential side effects are justified by the drug’s benefits as a medicine, and this involves long and expensive trials. The only way of recouping that expense is by obtaining exclusive rights to sell the drug through holding its patent. Only a few experimental therapists researched and tested the drug (between 1977 to 1985) for use during psychotherapy sessions."

...From your narconon link..

No profit potential and expensive trials in 1913, followed by the Harrison Narcotics Act in 1914 seem more likely reasons it wasn't on the market. Alexander Shulgin in the article was mentioned to have found mdma to be his best theraputic drug..closest out of 167 he created. So, I don't think it was because the drug was bad for you. If used as directed, cigarettes, alcohol, and guns can kill you, but Americans have legitimate businesses to sell them. These commodities are potentially lethal, and yet legal. Responsible adults can use drugs without abusing them, and sorry for digressing out of the original post and issue, but please don't tell me drugs are bad unless you have a problem with addiction. Possession is not use, use is not abuse, and abuse is possible with any of the above listed products/drugs.

Thank you for your information and for posting!

[canadian_wife 1,822]

So I'm confused, your spouse was using MDMA for a therapeutic drug? Like it was prescribed? Like medical marijuana? Because it seems to me you are going to make that argument.

good luck

[Transborderwife 4,666]

I'm curious where you're going with this...use or possession USCIS has a stance.

[AnAmericanInLove 1]

I don't know how much of the thread you have read. No my fiancee never used e. He was found with something that may have been that, or so he says, but I can't find any proof this happened. So, I'm confused as to what to say to the consular officer. I've spent the past five months looking for records and making calls, and nothing except the records from that time have been destroyed. He has received his VOG from the Department of Justice that declares his record is clear for emigration.

I can't imagine walking into a consular office and declaring someone did something and there is no proof.

[canadian_wife 1,822]

So I'm confused. Your first post said he has a drug conviction for possession. Now you are saying it wasn't x but 'may have been', but are doing research to see if MDMA has any medicinal purposes.

If he has a drug conviction, then you MUST answer yes to those questions on the forms. Regardless if you can get court records. USCIS has means beyond what you do and they will find the conviction.

Good luck

[Boiler 45,542]

So I'm confused. Your first post said he has a drug conviction for possession. Now you are saying it wasn't x but 'may have been', but are doing research to see if MDMA has any medicinal purposes.

If he has a drug conviction, then you MUST answer yes to those questions on the forms. Regardless if you can get court records. USCIS has means beyond what you do and they will find the conviction.

Good luck

A long thread, but here is where we started:

My man had a drug conviction at 18. Yup, it was long long ago, 19 years. It's The Netherlands, and when he was young, he got busted for having a few pills of x. No distribution. No trafficking. The charge was possession, he went to court, was ordered to do 80 hours of community service

[AnAmericanInLove 1]

Good luck to USCIS. I sure as hell can't find anything.

I argue and complain. When I think a law is outdated and counterproductive, I'll say something. It's a forum. Americans are allowed to express their frustrations with the laws, last time I checked.

[Transborderwife 4,666]

Good luck to USCIS. I sure as hell can't find anything.

I argue and complain. When I think a law is outdated and counterproductive, I'll say something. It's a forum. Americans are allowed to express their frustrations with the laws, last time I checked.

I think that I suggested this earlier, but why not place your energy into joining a lobby group to have it changed?

Never underestimate USCIS. If they did find something and you lie on the application it'd be even more trouble.

[Boiler 45,542]

Good luck to USCIS. I sure as hell can't find anything.

I argue and complain. When I think a law is outdated and counterproductive, I'll say something. It's a forum. Americans are allowed to express their frustrations with the laws, last time I checked.

They do not need to find it, they will ask for details of his conviction if he says there is nothing then that is it.

I think that I suggested this earlier, but why not place your energy into joining a lobby group to have it changed?

Never underestimate USCIS. If they did find something and you lie on the application it'd be even more trouble.

Nobody I think is suggesting lying, OP's verbage is confusing but I think she has been looking for court records from the time, which often no longer exist.

[AnAmericanInLove 1]

I think that I suggested this earlier, but why not place your energy into joining a lobby group to have it changed?

Never underestimate USCIS. If they did find something and you lie on the application it'd be even more trouble.

You're right on the lobby group issue. Thank you.

I would never underestimate the US gov't. I just expect more from them.

[Transborderwife 4,666]

They do not need to find it, they will ask for details of his conviction if he says there is nothing then that is it.

Nobody I think is suggesting lying, OP's verbage is confusing but I think she has been looking for court records from the time, which often no longer exist.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I thought somewhere on the thread it was mentioned not to say anything about it.