Should college fire hijab-wearing professor?

[ExPatty 502]

If you judge by the sheer number of adherents who take these books literally, then yes, Islam has a tremendous problem that Christianity simply doesn't have to anywhere near the same extent.

That's why the punchline "But the Bible says that too" is usually dead on arrival to anyone other than the people who use it as the ultimate "gotcha!" argument.

Precisely. That's what certain um *cough* people in this thread don't seem to appreciate.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Precisely. That's what certain um *cough* people in this thread don't seem to appreciate.

Kinda like saying because there is a documented case of a poodle bite somewhere, there are the same as Pitt Bulls

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[Boiler 45,470]

that gives me hope, JayJay - as I've still got plans to find a secular lass from the middle east, sometime this decade.

Decade sounds optimistic.

Any news of a Fatwa?

[Expat1 971]

Agreed, depending on how you look at it.

If you put the Quran and the Old Testament side by side, and read them, and use them as the law of the land, I don't think you could argue that one is any less horrible than the other.

If you judge by the sheer number of adherents who take these books literally, then yes, Islam has a tremendous problem that Christianity simply doesn't have to anywhere near the same extent.

Some cool Colonial American laws:

http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1061&context=englishfacpubs

For avoiding olthe detestable and abominable Sin of Buggery with Mankind or Beast, which is

contrary to the very Light ol Nature; Be it Enacted and Declared by the Lieutenant Governor,

Council, and Representatives, in General Court assembled: and by the authority of the same it is

Enacted, That the same Offence be adjudged Felony, and such Order and Form of Process

therein be used against the Offenders, as in Cases of Felony: And that every Man, being duly

convicted of lying with Mankind, as he lieth with a Woman: and every Man or Woman, that

shall have carnal Copulation with any Beast or Brute Creature, the Offender and Offenders, in

either of the Cases before mentioned, shall suffer the Pains of Death, and the Beast shall be slain

and burnt. (Acts and Laws, 1724)

Today in California:

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/03/20/death-penalty-for-gays-ballot-initiative-mclaughlin-harris-california-capital-punishment-sodomy/

General early death penalty offenses:

The first

American "code," if it can be called that, was a simple list of "Capitall

offences lyable to death" drawn up in Plymouth Colony in 1936. (I believe this is a typo, actually 1636)

These included treason, murder, witchcraft, arson, sodomy, rape,

buggery (here denoting bestiality), and adultery.

Sound familiar? Same stuff they "try" and execute people for in the middle east today.

I'm not sure that witch-burning and heresy etc etc is limited to the old testament. Given the book and no limitation life under "christian rule" probably would not be any different than life under an Islamic Caliphate.

[JayJayH 546]

Some cool Colonial American laws:

http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1061&context=englishfacpubs

For avoiding olthe detestable and abominable Sin of Buggery with Mankind or Beast, which is

contrary to the very Light ol Nature; Be it Enacted and Declared by the Lieutenant Governor,

Council, and Representatives, in General Court assembled: and by the authority of the same it is

Enacted, That the same Offence be adjudged Felony, and such Order and Form of Process

therein be used against the Offenders, as in Cases of Felony: And that every Man, being duly

convicted of lying with Mankind, as he lieth with a Woman: and every Man or Woman, that

shall have carnal Copulation with any Beast or Brute Creature, the Offender and Offenders, in

either of the Cases before mentioned, shall suffer the Pains of Death, and the Beast shall be slain

and burnt. (Acts and Laws, 1724)

Today in California:

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/03/20/death-penalty-for-gays-ballot-initiative-mclaughlin-harris-california-capital-punishment-sodomy/

General early death penalty offenses:

The first

American "code," if it can be called that, was a simple list of "Capitall

offences lyable to death" drawn up in Plymouth Colony in 1936. (I believe this is a typo, actually 1636)

These included treason, murder, witchcraft, arson, sodomy, rape,

buggery (here denoting bestiality), and adultery.

Sound familiar? Same stuff they "try" and execute people for in the middle east today.

I'm not sure that witch-burning and heresy etc etc is limited to the old testament. Given the book and no limitation life under "christian rule" probably would not be any different than life under an Islamic Caliphate.

Biblical marriage law, in case you ever marry a woman and find out she is not a virgin:

"Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the ####### in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you." Deuteronomy 22:21

From the Quran:

"The fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by Allah, if you believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of the believers witness their punishment. (This is for unmarried persons, but if married, the punishment is to stone them to death)" Quran, 24:2

Stoning is a legal form of punishment, particularly for adultery in most of the Middle East still. Particularly in Middle Eastern countries that actually exerts influence on the world like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the UAE and Iran.

Had the U.S. been an authoritarian Christian theocracy on the scale of Saudi Arabia, ruled by literal Biblical law, packed with well-funded crazies, then I'm sure it would have ramifications on the rest of the world. You might even have well-meaning champions of multiculturalism in secular nations celebrating Victorian-style dresses (Deuteronomy 22:5) worn by Christian migrants as the pinnacle of modern cultural enrichment. Noting all the meanwhile of course, that stoning fornicators has "absolutely nothing to do with the Bible."

[TBoneTX 45,267]

Shouldn't a female fornicator be called a fornicatrix, huh man?

Maybe fornicatress is a mispronunciation of fornicatrix. Must be researched.

[ExPatty 502]

Kinda like saying because there is a documented case of a poodle bite somewhere, there are the same as Pitt Bulls

The logic used is in fact exactly the same. Not all pit bull eat people but they are disproportionately represented in dog attacks. Some claim there is nothing inherently aggressive about the breed (these people are fools) and it is only the upbringing of the dog but not a single parent on the planet given the choice of having their 2 year old enter a cage with an unknown Pit bull or an unknown Labrador retriever is going to pick the pit bull.

[Expat1 971]

Shouldn't a female fornicator be called a fornicatrix, huh man?

Maybe fornicatress is a mispronunciation of fornicatrix. Must be researched.

Dominatrix? LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX88XJaJ_bg

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

The logic used is in fact exactly the same. Not all pit bull eat people but they are disproportionately represented in dog attacks. Some claim there is nothing inherently aggressive about the breed (these people are fools) and it is only the upbringing of the dog but not a single parent on the planet given the choice of having their 2 year old enter a cage with an unknown Pit bull or an unknown Labrador retriever is going to pick the pit bull.

Exactly

[Expat1 971]

The logic used is in fact exactly the same. Not all pit bull eat people but they are disproportionately represented in dog attacks. Some claim there is nothing inherently aggressive about the breed (these people are fools) and it is only the upbringing of the dog but not a single parent on the planet given the choice of having their 2 year old enter a cage with an unknown Pit bull or an unknown Labrador retriever is going to pick the pit bull.

A lesson learned to the dismay of several countries after scores of kids were killed by their loving adoptive american christian parents

How many countries banned US adoptions again? Was it 5 or was it 6?

[smilesammich 10,727]

The logic used is in fact exactly the same. Not all pit bull eat people but they are disproportionately represented in dog attacks. Some claim there is nothing inherently aggressive about the breed (these people are fools) and it is only the upbringing of the dog but not a single parent on the planet given the choice of having their 2 year old enter a cage with an unknown Pit bull or an unknown Labrador retriever is going to pick the pit bull.

seriously, where do you get these comparisons from? pitbulls and muslims? COME ON. muslims are not a 'different breed' of human.

[ExPatty 502]

seriously, where do you get these comparisons from? pitbulls and muslims? COME ON. muslims are not a 'different breed' of human.

Are you actually this bad at understanding concepts or just trolling? I can tell with certainty you don't work in a STEM field, though.

[Ban Hammer 13,333]

seriously, where do you get these comparisons from? pitbulls and muslims? COME ON. muslims are not a 'different breed' of human.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy

[smilesammich 10,727]

Are you actually this bad at understanding concepts or just trolling? I can tell with certainty you don't work in a STEM field, though.

i understand your concept. and it's bigotry, doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy

yes dear, i know what an analogy is. i also know what a bad analogy is. see above.

[Expat1 971]

analogy is not family - friendly. Please stick to the forum rules.