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You are really backing yourself into a corner on this stuff. What exactly do you mean by "wouldn't be allowed to progress to that point"? Is it illegal for 150 black people to congregate? The authorities wouldn't let it happen? But you are becoming self-aware; as you said you are projecting--your own biases, evidently.

do you think you are unbiased? i'm owning my bias. i believe that racism is alive and well in this country and i also believe that institutionalized racism is the root of many of america's ongoing problems.

why are you trying to act as if these asshats are doing nothing wrong? you're showing your bias i'm afraid. these guys have publicly stated they are willing.to.die for this fight. so, again, let 150 black people congregate on federal land - say they are ready to die, guns in hand- and watch how quick they get their wish..

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do you think you are unbiased? i'm owning my bias. i believe that racism is alive and well in this country and i also believe that institutionalized racism is the root of many of america's ongoing problems.

why are you trying to act as if these asshats are doing nothing wrong? you're showing your bias i'm afraid. these guys have publicly stated they are willing.to.die for this fight. so, again, let 150 black people congregate on federal land - say they are ready to die, guns in hand- and watch how quick they get their wish..

We are all biased. I also believe virtually everybody, of all races and backgrounds, are racist to varying degrees. But race isn't always relevant, and this is one of those cases.

Good luck!

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We are all biased. I also believe virtually everybody, of all races and backgrounds, are racist to varying degrees. But race isn't always relevant, and this is one of those cases.

well there, we agree on something. not the relevance of race, however. i mean it's in the title of the op.
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i'm keeping close with the actual scenario and projecting this would never be allowed to progress to such a point if the patriots weren't white. i don't think there would be deadly and merciless force from the police if this scenario were some militant minority group instead of white guys because it would never be allowed to progress to that point. and if it did, it wouldn't be all over the news as some redneck joke, everyone would be screamin race war, buying even more guns, and demanding their immediate arrest (but lets face it, many would want them shot and killed, preferably in public). no jokes but tons of fear and 'get them back in their place'.

One word Waco

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We are all biased. I also believe virtually everybody, of all races and backgrounds, are racist to varying degrees. But race isn't always relevant, and this is one of those cases.

I belive all people are prejudice to a degree. Not so many Racist

Of course black people can't be racist

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The militia was supposed to be a force to keep the government in check. These guys should try to push the fed around with their guns. In fact, everyone that thinks their guns can help them fight the U.S. Government should go to where these guys are help "take back your country". Please do this asap. I'll be waiting and watching with unbridled enthusiasm.

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yes waco, there are a few examples other than waco too. next?

Ruby ridge. A sniper blew the head off a white woman holding a baby near a window.

For extra credit how many white people did the national guard shot at Kent State and how many black people did they shot in Ferguson.

To argue that the ranchers would be shot by now if they were black is ludicrous.

Not the rapper

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The militia was supposed to be a force to keep the government in check. These guys should try to push the fed around with their guns. In fact, everyone that thinks their guns can help them fight the U.S. Government should go to where these guys are help "take back your country". Please do this asap. I'll be waiting and watching with unbridled enthusiasm.

This argument often pops up, and the general response given which I'll give now is we have contemporary examples of armed populaces taking on governments successfully in the middle east.

Good luck!

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Ruby ridge. A sniper blew the head off a white woman holding a baby near a window.

For extra credit how many white people did the national guard shot at Kent State and how many black people did they shot in Ferguson.

To argue that the ranchers would be shot by now if they were black is ludicrous.

Not the rapper

oh you misunderstand me, i know the government will kill white people. my faith in the government killing people of all races without hesitation is rock solid.
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This argument often pops up, and the general response given which I'll give now is we have contemporary examples of armed populaces taking on governments successfully in the middle east.

They should give it a whirl.
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Ruby ridge. A sniper blew the head off a white woman holding a baby near a window.

For extra credit how many white people did the national guard shot at Kent State and how many black people did they shot in Ferguson.

To argue that the ranchers would be shot by now if they were black is ludicrous.

Not the rapper

I grew up with this being an everyday issue. It is a very interesting topic and I really hate that through some irrational twisting it has been turned into a race issue.. Even NPR which can turn a can of tuna into a story about race has not been able to pull that rabbit out of this hat. Bleh.

Anyway while they have a point I would hate to see these ranchers get their way. With BLM managing the land I have thousands and thousands of acres to Hike, dozens and dozens of natural hot springs.. others use it to hunt, ride bikes, etc.. and these guys still get to put their cattle there for next to nothing (I've had to more shoo more cows off a trail than I can count). If they had their way it would be miles of barb wire fences with no trespassing signs.

The area this is happening in is mostly desolate but there are some really cool caves where it is basically 10-15 foot entrances going straight down that lead into football field sized underground areas with pristine shallow water lakes.

I don't believe it.. Prove it to me and I still won't believe it. -Ford Prefect

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We are all biased. I also believe virtually everybody, of all races and backgrounds, are racist to varying degrees. But race isn't always relevant, and this is one of those cases.

Is stupidity, and foolishness relevant? I say a resounding yes!

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