Brooklyn lawmakers seek to tightly restrict sales of ammo statewide

[lostinblue 1,989]

Brooklyn lawmakers seek to tightly restrict sales of ammo statewide

Bill would limit bullet purchases to twice the gun’s capacity

By Mary Frost

Brooklyn Daily Eagle

State lawmakers from Brooklyn announced on Monday new legislation aimed at tightly restricting the sale of ammunition in New York.

The Senate and Assembly bills were drafted in an effort to keep potential terrorists from stocking up on ammo, according to sponsors state Sen. Roxanne Persaud and Assemblymember Jo Anne Simon. The twin bills are backed by Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams, who worked with Persaud and Simon to craft them.

The legislation would place a strict limit on the number of bullets a gun owner could purchase over a 90-day time period, and prevent gun dealers from selling ammunition for a firearm to anyone unauthorized to have such a weapon.

“If I have a cold I can’t buy Sudafed without ID, but I can walk into any gun shop and walk out with enough bullets to arm a small army without showing any kind of ID,” Simon said in a joint release. “I can buy any kind of bullets regardless of what kind of gun I own. I don’t even have to own a gun to stock up on bullets. Nothing stops me from having friends buy even more bullets for me. The sky is the limit. The San Bernardino shooters had 6,000 rounds of ammunition. We need this legislation so that cannot happen here.”

Adams, a former police officer with the NYPD who figured in the passage of the NY Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement (SAFE) Act, said there was a “a responsibility to put public safety first, in the face of the blood-soaked carnage of mass shootings, made possible by the calculated and unrestricted stockpiling of thousands of deadly ammunition rounds.”

“Limiting the quantity and duration between purchases of ammunition is one step in preventing someone with criminal intent from easily accessing large quantities of ammunition,” Persaud said.

While the measure is aimed at owners of assault rifles, the language contained in the draft legislation would also affect owners of handguns with much smaller capacities, such as six-shooters.

Since the measure would cap the amount of ammunition to no more than twice the amount of the capacity of the weapon every 90 days, these gun owners would be limited to buying a dozen bullets every month and a half.

This provision is likely to make the bill unpopular with everyday gun owners and advocacy groups including the National Rifle Association. The Brooklyn Eagle has reached out to the NRA for comment.

Under the proposal, Section 270.00 of the New York State Penal Law would be amended to prevent gun dealers from selling ammunition for a firearm to anyone unauthorized to have such a weapon, regardless of the weapon type. Under the current code, only pistols and revolvers are specifically regulated. The bills sponsors say this creates a “loophole” for those seeking to purchase ammunition for assault weapons.

Penalty for the violation of this law would also be increased from a Class B misdemeanor, or not more than three months in jail and not more than $500 in fines, to a Class E felony, or up to four years in prison with a minimum of one year.

While the practicality of limiting small-capacity gun owners to a less than a box of bullets is unexplored, those familiar with the legislation say the lawmakers look upon the language as a starting point in negotiations.

http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2015/12/21/brooklyn-lawmakers-seek-tightly-restrict-sales-ammo-statewide

[Ban Hammer 13,714]

and watch the shelves of ammo disappear overnight.....

[ExPatty 502]

wow this is so stupid.

First, who cares if the shooters had 6000 rounds or 60 trillion. They can't shoot more than the gun can shoot.

Second, why are you preventing people from buying ammo for a weapon they don't own? Ammo without a gun is as dangerous as pebbles.

Third, not even countries with the strictest gun laws have such laws against ammo for legal gun owners as that would be. It would make target shooting completely impossible. And yet you could still easily stock enough ammo over the period of a year to go on a mass shooting if you wanted.

Anyway, this bill will go nowhere but is a beautiful example of why gun owners are so militant against any regulation whatsoever, because complete morons will take all rights from them that they can such that gun owners won't even allow otherwise reasonable regulation.

Edited December 22, 2015 by ExPatty

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

You got to love liberals. First they tell us there is no real threat from terrorist, and that anybody that thinks that is living in fear and being exploited by RWNJ types.

Then they want to pass legislation to limit ammo purchases so terrorist that they claim don't exist, can't stock up on ammo.

It would be cute if stupid people did not fall for it

[lostinblue 1,989]

You got to love liberals. First they tell us there is no real threat from terrorist, and that anybody that thinks that is living in fear and being exploited by RWNJ types.

Then they want to pass legislation to limit ammo purchases so terrorist that they claim don't exist, can't stock up on ammo.

It would be cute if stupid people did not fall for it

Any method to neuter the second . ..

[Sousuke 1,214]

"Since the measure would cap the amount of ammunition to no more than twice the amount of the capacity of the weapon every 90 days, these gun owners would be limited to buying a dozen bullets every three months."

Wow. Thats a reason to buy more guns right?

If I have 1 9mm handgun, I get what 10 rounds in NY?

If I have 20 9mm handguns I get 200 at least lol.

Edited December 23, 2015 by Sousuke

[Merle 458]

I have enough reloading components to load my own ammunition for a very long time. I wonder if these silly libs realize us "gun nuts" even do that? Are they gonna try and limit reloading components too?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

It's insanity

[Ban Hammer 13,714]

"Since the measure would cap the amount of ammunition to no more than twice the amount of the capacity of the weapon every 90 days, these gun owners would be limited to buying a dozen bullets every three months."

Wow. Thats a reason to buy more guns right?

If I have 1 9mm handgun, I get what 10 rounds in NY?

If I have 20 9mm handguns I get 200 at least lol.

and the ammo makers will have to have different boxes too.

[TBoneTX 46,373]

Some people don't realize that anyone with a little knowledge and the proper tools can make his own ammunition.

[Expat1 971]

6000 rounds of ammo is nothing. They were amateurs.

http://www.academy.com/shop/browse/shooting/ammunition/centerfire-rifle#facet:1000355&productBeginIndex:0&orderBy:&pageView:grid&minPrice:&maxPrice:&pageSize:&

Edited December 23, 2015 by Expat1

[smilesammich 10,727]

ya'll don't find anything wrong with this scenario?

“If I have a cold I can’t buy Sudafed without ID, but I can walk into any gun shop and walk out with enough bullets to arm a small army without showing any kind of ID,” Simon said in a joint release. “I can buy any kind of bullets regardless of what kind of gun I own. I don’t even have to own a gun to stock up on bullets. Nothing stops me from having friends buy even more bullets for me. The sky is the limit. The San Bernardino shooters had 6,000 rounds of ammunition. We need this legislation so that cannot happen here.”

[Merle 458]

ya'll don't find anything wrong with this scenario?

I agree, it's asinine to have to show identification to buy Sudafed. Edited December 23, 2015 by Merle

[smilesammich 10,727]

I agree it's asinine to have to show identification to buy Sudafed too.

i pretty much live on claritin d. showing id to buy it is the most ridiculous thing..

[lostinblue 1,989]

ya'll don't find anything wrong with this scenario?

Not in the least. Been buying ammo all my life without an ID needed. I was about 10 or 11 when I purchased .22 ammo. .. No questions asked.... Many kids that age would be at the town dump shooting rats .