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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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Preparing to submit k1 petition packet for fiance. I met him in person for the first time when I traveled to Lagos this fall. I want to visit him again next spring while the case is processing. Is it better to visit before the interview (springtime) or during the interview. I understand that I would not be allowed in the interview room.

I can only afford to make one trip next year due to limited vacation days at work. So I wanted to figure out if there is a preferred time according to the experience of others. Would it make a difference? Thanks for the help!

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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Before the interview gives you more solid relationship evidence.

During the interview he can say (while handing over your passport to the CO) My fiance is waiting outside and would like to know if she can

be present during the interview. They will likely say no but at least they know she is around.

In this case he can also submit the most recent relationship evidence and new photos etc, sometimes they just go by what you have

already submitted and front loaded in your petition and reject looking at newer evidence and still refuse to issue the visa.

It is a tough call to make to go before or during and you know how much evidence you have or still could generate.

If you do not have enough evidence before you may be denied but if you are on the premises during the interview then you can

immediately start to troubleshoot should something go wrong.

Really, the best would be to go both times or take your chances with either before or during.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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Thanks. What is considered "enough evidence"?

We've been dating for a year now and have a year's worth of chat records and phone logs, plus pictures of first trip. Any advice will be helpful.

Before the interview gives you more solid relationship evidence.

During the interview he can say (while handing over your passport to the CO) My fiance is waiting outside and would like to know if she can

be present during the interview. They will likely say no but at least they know she is around.

In this case he can also submit the most recent relationship evidence and new photos etc, sometimes they just go by what you have

already submitted and front loaded in your petition and reject looking at newer evidence and still refuse to issue the visa.

It is a tough call to make to go before or during and you know how much evidence you have or still could generate.

If you do not have enough evidence before you may be denied but if you are on the premises during the interview then you can

immediately start to troubleshoot should something go wrong.

Really, the best would be to go both times or take your chances with either before or during.

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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If he owns any land or property he can add you on the papers. You can put him as the beneficiary of your life insurance policy.

Lagos likes photos with family, if you took pics of an engagement party be careful that it can't be misconstrued as a traditional wedding.

Real face time with long enough visits trumps all chat/phone logs though they are important for communication evidence spanning beginning

of dating to current and highlighting the growth of the relationship. You can also include a time line relationship letter narrating how your love grew

over time.

Enter front loading in the search bar to understand why it's important for some embassies, Lagos being one of them.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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It's totally up to you. I went during interview and they never asked my fiancé anything about the last time we saw each other face to face! Everything went great. Hope all goes well for you!

thanks! How many times have you visited your fiance before filing?

Filed: F-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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once. second time was during his interview.

my fiance observed that questions they ask question base on the filing you did. and they can ask u questions based on how u respond to the first question. most important dress nice for the interview. if u can make the interview pls do. if they denied him, u can walk inside the embassy to know why, you have the right as US citizen. also u can have more fun with him. its up to u guys though

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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Ok, Thanks! So in your case, the second visit didn't make a difference because they never asked your fiancé when was the last time you visited him? In other words, they would've approved you anyway based on the information they had on file and his interview. Right?

once. second time was during his interview.

my fiance observed that questions they ask question base on the filing you did. and they can ask u questions based on how u respond to the first question. most important dress nice for the interview. if u can make the interview pls do. if they denied him, u can walk inside the embassy to know why, you have the right as US citizen. also u can have more fun with him. its up to u guys though

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Jamaica
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Ok, Thanks! So in your case, the second visit didn't make a difference because they never asked your fiancé when was the last time you visited him? In other words, they would've approved you anyway based on the information they had on file and his interview. Right?

It's very possible her being present during interview time helped (if they knew she was there). Seeing all the difficulties abs denials that come from Lagos, if it were me I'd schedule my trip during the interview. Especially if you front loaded well and have plenty of relationship evidence.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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try to hang around during his interview. if they deny him. as a citizen, you have the right to walk in there and demand the reasons. its ur right. you benefit cuz the interview is still fresh.

Really? Has anyone here ever done that? I've read about cases where the USC immediately calls their senator etc... but never heard of going inside the embassy and asking for the reasons of the denial. I am interested in knowing more about this.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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US Citizen can certainly enter the Embassy, but immigrant interviews are handled by the Consulate.

How much time have you spent together, you mentioned you have only met once.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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Really? Has anyone here ever done that? I've read about cases where the USC immediately calls their senator etc... but never heard of going inside the embassy and asking for the reasons of the denial. I am interested in knowing more about this.

Sometimes yes and sometimes no, depends on the embassy/consulate.

I was able to barge into the consulate twice and speak with the CO and one section chief.

If you can't get into the consulate where the CO is then go through the USC embassy entrance and from there wiggle yourself through

to the consulate while saying the right things to the right people to let you through. It takes some finesse.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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Spent 3 weeks together during the visit.

US Citizen can certainly enter the Embassy, but immigrant interviews are handled by the Consulate.

How much time have you spent together, you mentioned you have only met once.

 
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