Grand Compromise on Firearms at the National Level

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I would imagine that to any family member of someone who has been killed by a gun, they would think they've sacrificed much more than a little of their security.

I've brought this up before. In the areas where gun violence is so commonplace kids making out wills before they hit 18(Jay Z song reference) those folks don't even want guns.

[B_J 2,752]

I would imagine that to any family member of someone who has been killed by a gun, they would think they've sacrificed much more than a little of their security.

There's a few other rights we could get rid of that would prevent deaths. Why not place armed troops in every house? They could monitor every citizen in that home to prevent any violence. While we're at it, let's take away the right to assemble and the right to free speech. Those two rights are there just to instigate.

You can bring up the people who have been killed by guns but don't forget the people who died for this country protecting these rights, all of the rights, not just the ones that are meaningful to you and I.

By the way, I am totally winning this conversation.

[Teddy B 17,252]

I've brought this up before. In the areas where gun violence is so commonplace kids making out wills before they hit 18(Jay Z song reference) those folks don't even want guns.

The only hope that the 2nd will ever get changed will be in generations to come. There needs to be a change in the way people view guns before there can be changes made. As long as a gun is viewed as the Holy Grail, the 2nd will remain in tact. It's unfortunate that the rights to own a killing machine are protected more than the rights of the people that are killed by it.

[Teddy B 17,252]

There's a few other rights we could get rid of that would prevent deaths. Why not place armed troops in every house? They could monitor every citizen in that home to prevent any violence. While we're at it, let's take away the right to assemble and the right to free speech. Those two rights are there just to instigate.

You can bring up the people who have been killed by guns but don't forget the people who died for this country protecting these rights, all of the rights, not just the ones that are meaningful to you and I.

By the way, I am totally winning this conversation.

On the right to assemble, you might have a point. That is taken to extreme far too often. But the freedom of speech is the greatest of all our freedoms I believe. Without that freedom, we would have a dictatorship and more than likely be slave labor for a king. Of course that king would be you, but it would still kinda stink for most of us underlings.

I don't ever forget the people who have given the ultimate sacrifice for this country. That's what gives us the freedom to sit here and dope slap each other via the intranets.

If by "winning the conversation" you mean you really like the atomic wedgie I just gave you, then yes you are most definitely winning.

[lostinblue 1,989]

I've brought this up before. In the areas where gun violence is so commonplace kids making out wills before they hit 18(Jay Z song reference) those folks don't even want guns.

Where are all these killings by guns common place ?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Where are all these killings by guns common place ?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/13/24-7-wall-st-states-most-gun-violence/71003050/

[B_J 2,752]

On the right to assemble, you might have a point. That is taken to extreme far too often. But the freedom of speech is the greatest of all our freedoms I believe. Without that freedom, we would have a dictatorship and more than likely be slave labor for a king. Of course that king would be you, but it would still kinda stink for most of us underlings.

I don't ever forget the people who have given the ultimate sacrifice for this country. That's what gives us the freedom to sit here and dope slap each other via the intranets.

If by "winning the conversation" you mean you really like the atomic wedgie I just gave you, then yes you are most definitely winning.

By the way, the point behind this discussion, how to possibly have a mental health requirement, is really fascinating. Along with, are we willing to give away some of our rights for our safety. I really wish that Sussudio had been here for this discussion. He's one of the really knowledgeable gun people who is also very reasonable. I'd like his opinion on some of this.

I'm just a guy who doesn't own a gun but still has respect for all of his underlings.

[Ban Hammer 13,429]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/13/24-7-wall-st-states-most-gun-violence/71003050/

from the linked article...

"As in many other states with high gun-death rates, the vast majority of deaths were the result of suicide"

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

from the linked article...

"As in many other states with high gun-death rates, the vast majority of deaths were the result of suicide"

Guns are an easy tool to use for killing someone.

[Boiler 45,731]

Why would I want to apply for a CC permit?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Why would I want to apply for a CC permit?

My apologies. Being able to own a firearm.

[Sousuke 1,214]

Hi all,

Sorry have been out at meetings all day. Just catching up.

How about mandatory liability insurance, for people whose guns get used to commit crime?

I think this has been brought up in the past. I don't see any way for insurance to cover criminal acts that I am aware of.

There is insurance showing up though for people who conceal carry.

[GandD 5,966]

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A few more for quoting/referencing

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

To heck with the truth. Use terrosim to go after legal gun owners instead of terrorist

http://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2012/12/FirearmFacts.png

[GandD 5,966]

All I'm getting from that is that guns are becoming less effective. Well assuming the intention is to kill. Oh and #firstworldproblems are hard.