Trump: Reconsider fiancé visas

[GandD 5,966]

I saw this referenced in another thread and thought I'd post here considering how close to home this hits most of us here

(CNN) —Donald Trump said Saturday that he is not ruling out eliminating fiancé visas, after one of the San Bernardino massacre killers entered the U.S. with one.

We're going to have to start looking at people very closely because we can't allow this to happen to our country," Trump said. "I'm not ruling out anything. I don't rule out anything. If people come in and blow up people and shoot people and kill people, I don't rule out anything."

Authorities say Syed Rizwan Farook, a U.S. citizen, and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, a permanent resident, massacred 14 people at a holiday party Wednesday at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, California.

They met face to face when Farook visited Saudi Arabia, where Malik had moved from her native Pakistan around the age of 18 or 20. She later came to the United States on a fiancé visa and became a legal permanent resident.

Trump said the government needs to better monitor the families of suspected terrorists. He said the shooters' families had to know Farook and Malik's plans.

"We have to start looking at families. We have to look at them tough," he said. "Generally speaking the wives know what's going on. I believe that the sister of the killer -- I watched her interview-- I think she knew what was going on."

"I think his mother knew what was going on. Anybody who went into that house or that apartment knew what was going on," he added. "We better get a lot tougher and little smarter or we're in trouble."

The Republican frontrunner addressed a range of topics related to the Southern California killings. The mogul mocked the San Bernardino killers for fleeing after killing 14 people at a center for people with developmental disabilities.

"They're chicken(Edited for Family friendly VJ), so they left early, because they didn't want to get caught," he said.

Trump also doubled down on monitoring certain mosques in America, a proposal that has drawn criticism.

"We have to be vigilant. Now that includes with mosques and we better be smart."

http://www.wcvb.com/politics/trump-mocks-san-bernardino-killers-commitment-to-jihad/36813172

[cdneh 3,112]

Oh fine. I can't say I think of that idiot as much of a candidate. I've also read where a fox commentator, Greta Van Susteren by name, is saying to put an end to K1's. That they only use this visa to sneak into the country from trouble spots in the world. That she wasn't properly vetted, and if she had been the would not have granted the Visa. That the CO was told to look the other way, and did. That her address in Dubai was wrong and they didn't even catch that. That therefore, nobody that comes to the USA on that sort of Visa should be trusted.

I am irritated. She has crappy researchers, and all they are doing is slanting their story to suit her agenda.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Considering how many folks get married to people from other countries, this should be an issue.

[GandD 5,966]

I wonder what the divorce rate is for k-1 marriages.

[lostinblue 1,989]

We need tighter controls from high risk countries . We know people offer bribes to various officials in order to get a clean background check. . That has been posted before dealing with Syria and other countries. .As we know being in Canada VS say. Ghana different levels of scrutiny has been enforced for a long time.

[GandD 5,966]

No doubt. Ours was pretty much a breeze.

[Torete 121]

Abolish K-1's? CR and IR applications will simply skyrocket...spousal visas.

Edited December 5, 2015 by Torete

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

We need tighter controls from high risk countries . We know people offer bribes to various officials in order to get a clean background check. . That has been posted before dealing with Syria and other countries. .As we know being in Canada VS say. Ghana different levels of scrutiny has been enforced for a long time.

Sorta where I was going. My wife's family would have a hard time getting a tourist visa, because it's a high fraud country. Why not ally the same tougher stance to high religious nut job countries

[Operator 1,927]

Is it possible that Trump's brain works in the same fashion as his soup sewer? Short random bursts, strung together to form 'sentences' or 'thoughts'?

"Generally speaking the wives know what's going on. I believe that the sister of the killer -- I watched her interview-- I think she knew what was going on."

When my son was 5 he strung his thoughts in a seemingly scattered fashion but he eventually outgrew it.

I'm thinking Trump's medical team should start thinking about Adderall or Ritalin or maybe electric shock.

[DavenMaura 62]

If Donald Duck gets in next year, I'm going to pray he has a heart attack, stroke or dies in a wig fire before he can take office.

That man is a joke.

[crazyworld 54]

Don't get me started on the "The Duck"

How do you think his wife (what number are we on? LOL) got in to the country! Answer: K1 visa!

[X Factor 1,112]

Don't get me started on the "The Duck"

How do you think his wife (what number are we on? LOL) got in to the country! Answer: K1 visa!

That's hypocrisy to a high level

[Ted & Janine 31]

Don't get me started on the "The Duck"

How do you think his wife (what number are we on? LOL) got in to the country! Answer: K1 visa!

Don't forget Ivana who was originally from Czechoslovakia. Sketchy story about how she came in from Canada.

That's hypocrisy to a high level

Agreed

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

This has been debated before - there was a detailed study a few years ago with 10 specific points to remove fraud from the visa system. One of the points was to get rid of the K-1 - if I remember right it was the #1 recommendation.

[Pennycat 880]

This has been debated before - there was a detailed study a few years ago with 10 specific points to remove fraud from the visa system. One of the points was to get rid of the K-1 - if I remember right it was the #1 recommendation.

I think this is what you're referring to:

http://cis.org/marriagefraud

While I agree that the fiance visa is more open to abuse than spouse visas (because the US citizen can be in on the fraud and then claim that "she never showed up at the airport" or whatever just to give visas to anyone who wants to cross that border not caring about getting or maintaining legal status), I don't think that elimination of it is the answer (or likely). A big reason is that not all people are able to get married abroad (same sex couples, mixed religions, divorced people etc), and the fiance visa is the only way for certain couples to get immigration benefits.

I do think, however, that they must have a *significantly* higher burden than they do now. Meeting once in the past two years is such a ridiculously low burden that it's embarrassing, frankly, for us as a couple to be associated with it (that and the 90 Day Fiance show that has nothing but trainwrecks). I wouldn't have minded getting married abroad first (in fact, in many ways I'd have preferred it) but at this stage in the game, the NVC backlog is so out of control that even being stuck in the hellhole that was TSC we still saved a good 6 months over spouse visas. It was just a matter of timing, and not wanting to pay for 2 houses in 2 countries and fly back and forth any longer than necessary.

If you increase the requirements significantly, you'll get rid of a lot of the fraudsters, or at least catch them easier (fewer folks willing to actually marry for fraud and/or the fraudsters having a much harder time meeting the burden). I have no idea how you'd have caught this woman, though. If fiance visas didn't exist, they'd have just done a spouse visa (it sounds like they were already religiously married abroad and were going fiance visa for speed.... remember she DID successfully AOS so they didn't catch her then, either... by AOS, both types of visa beneficiaries have had the same processing).