Mass shooting - San Bernardino

[Teddy B 17,252]

The best self defense shotguns IMO are semi auto - Boiler and Charles will actually disagree with me here I think. I suspect they would advocate for a pump action. However in a high intensity situation I believe there is more opportunity for user error with a pump.

Outside of shotguns and revolvers, a non semiauto means bolt or singleshot.

That tends to fit with what I've heard, but everyone is has their own preferences, I get it.

Outside of shotguns and revolvers, we've got rifles. Why would anyone need more than a singleshot or bolt action rifle realistically?

I appreciate you having this conversation.

[Dakine10 5,452]

yet there is a problem now.

[Sousuke 1,214]

That tends to fit with what I've heard, but everyone is has their own preferences, I get it.

Outside of shotguns and revolvers, we've got rifles. Why would anyone need more than a singleshot or bolt action rifle realistically?

I appreciate you having this conversation.

If you miss, you may be done for. The only truly fast bolt gun I have ever used is an SMLE.

Going back to handguns for a second, revolvers have capacity issues with generally 5-7 shots.

[Dakine10 5,452]

If you miss, you may be done for. The only truly fast bolt gun I have ever used is an SMLE.

Going back to handguns for a second, revolvers have capacity issues with generally 5-7 shots.

My grandpa would have said that's a marksmanship issue, not a capacity issue. But anyway ......

[Teddy B 17,252]

If you miss, you may be done for. The only truly fast bolt gun I have ever used is an SMLE.

Going back to handguns for a second, revolvers have capacity issues with generally 5-7 shots.

Aren't these mainly used for hunting at long distances? In what situation would one be done for when using a singleshot or bolt action rifle?

I don't see where the average Joe would need any more rounds than that. Cops, secret service or military yes, but not you or me living in our homes, living an average every day life.

[Ban Hammer 13,656]

The best self defense shotguns IMO are semi auto - Boiler and Charles will actually disagree with me here I think. I suspect they would advocate for a pump action. However in a high intensity situation I believe there is more opportunity for user error with a pump.

Outside of shotguns and revolvers, a non semiauto means bolt or singleshot.

i won't disagree on a shotgun for the very reason you stated.

[Ban Hammer 13,656]

That tends to fit with what I've heard, but everyone is has their own preferences, I get it.

Outside of shotguns and revolvers, we've got rifles. Why would anyone need more than a singleshot or bolt action rifle realistically?

I appreciate you having this conversation.

there is also lever action rifles, like the winchester model 94.

[Sousuke 1,214]

Aren't these mainly used for hunting at long distances? In what situation would one be done for when using a singleshot or bolt action rifle?

I don't see where the average Joe would need any more rounds than that. Cops, secret service or military yes, but not you or me living in our homes, living an average every day life.

Your probably not going to use a rifle for defense in your home or in urban areas but rural areas yes. In addition to humans, bears are a factor.

Of the two bear species in North America, Black Bears are easier to deal with. They generally run if confronted the correct way. Brown are different. They move so quickly if you miss with a single shot you may be killed. Not advocating shooting Brown though, they are protected in all states I believe.

Capacity is about multiple attackers and attackers not stopping with a single shot.

[TBoneTX 46,293]

What about polar bears?

[Teddy B 17,252]

there is also lever action rifles, like the winchester model 94.

One of my favorite shows as a kid.

[Boiler 46,277]

The best self defense shotguns IMO are semi auto - Boiler and Charles will actually disagree with me here I think. I suspect they would advocate for a pump action. However in a high intensity situation I believe there is more opportunity for user error with a pump.

Outside of shotguns and revolvers, a non semiauto means bolt or singleshot.

I quite like a semi auto carbine for that role. 9mm.

What about polar bears?

I am in Colorado.

[TBoneTX 46,293]

I am in Colorado.

Noted; was referring to the below:

Of the two bear species in North America [...]

[smilesammich 10,727]

What about polar bears?

what about yeti?

dragons?

[smilesammich 10,727]

Edited December 4, 2015 by elitesthuglib

[Boiler 46,277]

Noted; was referring to the below:

Brown, Black and Polar makes 3

what about yeti?

dragons?

Came across Yak.